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    The chemical export licences were granted by Business Secretary Vince Cable’s Department for Business, Innovation and Skills last January – 10 months after the Syrian uprising began.

    They were only revoked six months later, when the European Union imposed tough sanctions on Assad’s regime.
    From what I have read here the chemicals were never delivered and the license were revoked 6 months later but the British government still sell arms to some brutal regimes with extremely bad human rights records.

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    Actually the whole news report is a complete and utter bullshit. Yet another example, as if we need any more, of starting with the answer; then looking for something that looks like evidence and at that point not bothering to ask questions.

    Yes sodium and potassium flouride are used in the conversion of methylphosphonyl diflouride to methylphosphonyl diflouride.

    Sarin is then created in a reaction between methylphosphonyl diflouride and isopropyl alcohol, often by designing the weapon to mix these chemicals together in flight for operator safty.

    Sodium fluoride, potassium fluoride and isopropyl alcohol are chemicals with a wide range of legitimate uses. Sodium flouride is sometimes used in water fluoridation and well isoproyl alcohol is also known as rubbing alcohol and is something you all probably have in your first aid box.

    In all seriousness there is no more reason to believe that someone buying sodium/pottassium flouride is going to use it to make chemical weapons than someone who goes to the chemist to buy a bottle of rubbing alcohol. something anyone with a background in chemistry or chemical weapons could have explained and almost certainly would have explained to the journalist.

    but when you know the answer your looking for in advance, why bother yourself with inconvenient facts and evidence.... right?

    On the otherhand, methylphosphonyl diflouride, methylphosphonyl dichloride and the specialist chemcials used to manufacture them, thionyl chloride, phosgene, sulphur dichloride, posphorus pentoxide for example are on chemical weapon convention schedules and if the license was for the supply of these chemicals they journalist would have a genuine case.


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    The chemical export licences were granted by Business Secretary Vince Cable’s Department for Business, Innovation and Skills last January – 10 months after the Syrian uprising began.

    They were only revoked six months later, when the European Union imposed tough sanctions on Assad’s regime.
    From what I have read here the chemicals were never delivered and the license were revoked 6 months later but the British government still sell arms to some brutal regimes with extremely bad human rights records.
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