Thread: Reasons Citizens Should Own Guns

^ I have two admit, the slavery to make restitution bit is not a bad idea.
Better than prison.

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by Rainfall

I have a better alternative for you. Take your scary big gun and go after some billionaires and their political lackeys. The poor negroes are cogs in the machine, just like you. They typically don't become criminals when they grew up middle class, and have a choice. To instigate cogs against each other is the strategy of the people at the controls. Take them out. They're not 15%, not even 0,1%. Make it count.

Going after the political lackeys would be nice, but that is not the topic here.

Yes, "negroes" are cogs in the machine just like him, you, me, and the rest of us. Society itself has many cogs. Education system, health care, legal system, entitlements, etc.

Being a cog in the machine does not mean some people can rob, rape, kill, assault.

As for being middle class, the vast majority of Americans are not middle-class but working class.

Regardless of "class" it is the responsibility of the parents to have kids when they can afford to, and educate them and teach them right from wrong. Humanity.

Black (mostly single) parents have failed to do this more than other ethnic groups.

How can they teach the kids right from wrong ever since the demagogues rule America?



The average worker works harder and longer hours every year, but his or her wage grows slower, if at all, than the costs of living. Living expenses are growing so rapidly because of the excessive greed for profits. The taxes they pay are used by the government not to improve their situation, but to subsidize the rich. They hear about personal responsibility in a free market economy, but can behold that the rules of capitalism only apply to them, and it's not the market who decides who makes a profit, but the elite themselves and their government. Profits are privatized and transfered abroad to avoid taxes, losses socialized. The myths of opportunity are just that, myths. The poor remain poor. That is were crime offers a shortcut to wealth.

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Must rankle with you that all those "criminals" that live in your midst will be Dem voters in 2016.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Must rankle with you that all those "criminals" that live in your midst will be Dem voters in 2016.

Nope.

I live in the LOS

Just saw on the news yesterday, that between Monday and Friday morning, Chicago had 8 homicides and over 30 wounded by gang-related, gun violence. Included among the dead were a 5 year-old and a 7 year-old (both negroes). In critical condition was a 3 year-old (also a negro). Doesn't anybody care about these children?

Honest people have to have the right and the ability to fight back against these punks.


RickThai

You like to skirt uncomfortable - for you - issues, don't you Rick.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Honest people have to have the right and the ability to fight back against these punks.

Thank you for sorting this out. You are excluded on both accounts, honesty and ability.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Honest people have to have the right and the ability to fight back against these punks.

So disarm the hood.

Originally Posted by barbaro

Being poor does not mean a parent should not teach their kids some values and how to respect others.

Neither does being rich, but it would appear from the naked greed and short termism that pervades and pollutes the US, the rich think differently. They have run the country into the ground- these days, two parents on minimum wage do not earn enough to raise a family, and need to rely on government aid. That's downright appalling- and yes, it does feed into crime. In the hood, the criminal lifestyle does beckon as an alternative to the miserable life you will get from the only jobs available. I can see why many choose it.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

The poor negroes ... They typically don't become criminals when they grew up middle class, and have a choice.

That seems to me to be a very racist remark. How are the "poor negroes" any different than the poor caucasions? Poor is poor. There are plenty of people of all races that have started from very humble beginnings and decided at a fairly early age that they would not be constrained by the circumstances they were born into. By deciding which values are important to them, and then living by those standards, they have become extremely successful.

Many extremely smart people have theorized that the liberals in the Democratic party of the USA have deliberately "enabled" the negroes into becoming dependent upon the government for help.

Condition any people at an early age that they can't be competitive on their own due to some unseen evil power holding them back, and then get them used to accepting government subsidies in everything from college admissions, to landing jobs.

The EEO and Affirmative Action instead of making the people they are supposed to help, self-reliant and self-confident has only succeeded in making those people totally reliant on governement "give mes".

All adults have to chose whether they will become criminals (and there are rich criminals as well as poor) or decent, honest people.

RickThai

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

You like to skirt uncomfortable - for you - issues, don't you Rick.

What is this supposed to mean? If you raise a rationale point or issue, I will respond to it. But many of your posts seem to be nothing but childish, personal attacks.

RickThai

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by barbaro

Being poor does not mean a parent should not teach their kids some values and how to respect others.

Neither does being rich, but it would appear from the naked greed and short termism that pervades and pollutes the US, the rich think differently. They have run the country into the ground- these days, two parents on minimum wage do not earn enough to raise a family, and need to rely on government aid. That's downright appalling- and yes, it does feed into crime. In the hood, the criminal lifestyle does beckon as an alternative to the miserable life you will get from the only jobs available. I can see why many choose it.

So without rich people what would the USA be like? Zimbabwe where everyone but the high-level government elitists are actually starving and dying of easily preventable diseases due to a lack of basic necessities like clean water and basic healthcare?

As for povery being the excuse to take up a life of crime, there is a big difference between professional thiefs who make a living stealing, and people who go around spraying the neighbor hood with gunfire (not to mention rapists, etc.)

In the video that prompted me to start this thread, how did being poor motive this man to brutally beat this woman, who posed no threat to him? He could have easily tied her up, and then ransacked the place (that's what a professional would have done).

He just brutalized her because he wanted to, and, to me, that kind of behaviour has to be stopped, not rationalized.

How does being poor make people want to shoot little children?

I was raised in a housing project, and went to school wearing clothes that didn't fit, and sometimes didn't have lucnh money. I got into alot of fights growing up and has a younger adult, but I always had a reason.

I've never wanted to hurt a child or rape a woman, or just randomly attack some stranger.


RickThai

Actually I saw a new video yesterday, which had a nice ending. Some lowlife (skinny, caucasion) was robbing a store, when a large man (also caucasion) came up behind him and grabbed him in a full nelson, and then body-slammed him facedown onto the floor. Hopefully, the would-be robber learned something the court system apparently hadn't taught him.

One for the good guys!

RickThai

Originally Posted by RickThai

That seems to me to be a very racist remark.

Good God . . . that you don't see the irony in your mad rantings is beyond the pale

Originally Posted by RickThai

What is this supposed to mean? If you raise a rationale point or issue, I will respond to it. But many of your posts seem to be nothing but childish, personal attacks.

The problem is that you are not rational by any stretch of the imagination, therefore what you perceive to be rational is not the same for fairly anyone else.
So, your bigotry - is it skin deep - vis-a-vis the 'black hordes' and 'negroes' - and what skin colour is your wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend?

Originally Posted by RickThai

So without rich people what would the USA be like? Zimbabwe where everyone but the high-level government elitists are actually starving and dying of easily preventable diseases due to a lack of basic necessities like clean water and basic healthcare?

In the case of Zimbabwe you shouldn't point to the differences, but similarities. There are people starving in the US, without access to clean water, and dying because they couldn't afford healthcare and treatment. Like in the US, crime rates are outrageous in Zimbabwe.

In East Germany everybody but the disabled had to have a job, not to work was a crime punishable by imprisonment. As a result, crime rates very extremely low. I guess if your government swept up the unemployed and unskilled, gave them a job that pays for their living expenses adequatly, and training for jobs that require better qualifications, and a purpose hereby, crime rates would drop considerably. It would be expensive, but the benefits for society and the many individuals who don't become victims are obvious.

The system doesn't allow it. Government enterprises musn't compete with for profit corporations. If you agree that profit must remain the top priority, you simply have to put up with crime and other grievances.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Many extremely smart people have theorized that the liberals in the Democratic party of the USA have deliberately "enabled" the negroes into becoming dependent upon the government for help.

WTF? Are you sure they are "extremely smart"

I told you already, read up on Marxist theory on economic crime under capitalism rather than bleating on about blacks.

Heavy marketing of things people cannot afford especially (in my view) clothes fashion is a good way to create frustration and crime. US are pretty good at making their own trouble....

Originally Posted by Rainfall

In East Germany everybody but the disabled had to have a job, not to work was a crime punishable by imprisonment. As a result, crime rates very extremely low. I guess if your government swept up the unemployed and unskilled, gave them a job that pays for their living expenses adequatly, and training for jobs that require better qualifications, and a purpose hereby, crime rates would drop considerably. It would be expensive, but the benefits for society and the many individuals who don't become victims are obvious.
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It doesn't work.

That's why the Berlin Wall came crashing down.

Communism does not work...

But they must try again, with the same old same old values and principles.

I actually like some Jews, you see? Marx, Lassalle, Luxemburg. Capitalism has been a monumental failure, and the most murderous ideology in history. More than 350 million people killed in wars and genocides since the early 1800s, and is has grown ever more depraved. No doubt that it's going to crash since it depends on economic growth not sustainable with the limited resources of the planet. Questions?

Back on topic:



Yes indeed...they do.

Heh...

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