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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    Lame troll...
    I really don't think Butterfly is trolling.

    Because I think it's his opinion.

    I have some similar opinions - not exactly the same - but similar.

    I have read many things and learned much about the foreign policy of the U.S.

    The Vietnam and Iraq war are just continuations of American foreign policy for the last 150 years.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    Conspiracy theories ain't my thing, but I have to say there are some serious questions about what happened to the Pentagon 911, including the damage to the building, lack of debris, eyewitness reports and goivernment withholding of information.
    Right...the damn plane vaporized.
    Next we'll say the other three planes were figments of someone's imagination too.



    There was no plane Coon Tree , stop your lame attempt at spinning the issue regarding where the evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon is.

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    OK, yellowstain...explain the parking lot camera that cought the plane as it flew in, eh?

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    9/11 was possibily one of the hardest days in my life and the following week as well. When the planes hit the WTC, I remember (and always will) where I was, what I was doing, etc. Knowing many people involved - it hits you hard. For awhile, didn't know where my stepfather was, knowing friends who lost one/two of their parents, etc. etc. Really isn't too many days in my life now that I do not think about 9/11 - doesn't stop me from doing anything but, by any means, I just stop and think for a moment - why?

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    ^ See things like that - honestly, didn't plan it but look at the time it was posted. I always seem to look at the clock at that exact time without trying...its a bit awkward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I really don't think Butterfly is trolling.

    Because I think it's his opinion.

    I have some similar opinions - not exactly the same - but similar.
    I think the WH would have been a better target and the US government would have got the message.

    WTC was really unbelievable !!! almost funny if it wasn't for the poor souls stuck inside. But definitely a worthless target strategically. But I guess that got the attention of the public.

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    Butter , the White House was a target and fighter jets actually made it to the plane it time to blow it out of the sky.

    Notice how it landed over an empty filed, bit of spin by the media with whole Todd Beemer hero bit and how they fought back with the hijackers.

    But the plain and simple fact US Military jets were given the order to blow it out of the sky BEFORE it could hit the White House.

    Damm they already had the Twin Towers and the Pentagon , could you have imagined the White House too.

    The Horror , The Horror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    explain the parking lot camera that cought the plane as it flew in, eh?
    There is no doubt from that video footage that it wasn't a plane that hit the Pentagon. If you believe the lies of the government, then you believe in the tooth fairy (nothing wrong with that)

    Even Rumsfield and Cheney made the tongue slip on a press conf, not once but twice.

    The only question we should ask is why would they lie for something like that ? and what other lies we don't know about ?

    questions that the public is too happy not to know the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowTrip View Post
    Butter , the White House was a target and fighter jets actually made it to the plane it time to blow it out of the sky.

    Notice how it landed over an empty filed, bit of spin by the media with whole Todd Beemer hero bit and how they fought back with the hijackers.

    But the plain and simple fact US Military jets were given the order to blow it out of the sky BEFORE it could hit the White House.

    Damm they already had the Twin Towers and the Pentagon , could you have imagined the White House too.

    The Horror , The Horror.
    Sadly, I must say, after the Al-qaeda & Saddam false link, Jessica Lynch, Pat Tillman, Mahomad Atta never meeting al-qaeda in Praque as Judith Miller of the NY Times reported, I do think:

    The Todd Beamer story, even if true, is really a non-story.

    The plane is going to crash. You know it. So why not fight the hi-jackers.

    "Let's Roll."

    Senseless, disgusting propaganda used by Bush in the State of the Union Speech.

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    See Boon Mee is your typical naive mid western American, he actually believes what the US Government feeds him.

    He can't prove anything but he sure does believe it.

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    I deleted a couple of posts.
    No namecalling in Issues, please, and kindly use members chosen names or a shortform thereof to address them.

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    For all you Lame-o's, go here for the definitive and final de-bunking of all those totally preposterous 9/11 conspiracies.

    But...if you believe that the government lied about the moon landing, you can believe they lied about killing JFK. If they lied about JFK, then they can lie about jet chemtrails. And if they are willing to poison the entire population with aerial spraying, what are a few thousand people in four airliners and a couple of buildings, eh?
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    They have the telephone conversations of the people on United flight 93 even as they charged the pilot's cabin. They have witnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Jet wings are not constructed to slice through reinforced concrete buildings. The wings folded back and followed the main body of the plane into the hole it punched. At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    They have the telephone conversations of the people on United flight 93 even as they charged the pilot's cabin. They have witnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon. Jet wings are not constructed to slice through reinforced concrete buildings. The wings folded back and followed the main body of the plane into the hole it punched. At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.
    Yeah, but don't let Milkman or yellowstain in on that info.
    Might jar with their vision of reality...

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    Here’s something to prove the Pentagon hit far better than any words could ever do.

    It is a video of an F-4 Phantom being launched into a reinforced wall at over 500 mph. The Phantom is a big airplane – not as big as a jetliner, certainly, but far sturdier in construction. When you watch this video, you will see that massive-looking fighter jet simply vaporize into a plume of aluminum dust. Nothing comes through the other side. It. Just. Disappears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy
    At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.
    oh yeah, try flying a plan at that speed 2m above the ground to hit a target. Impossible. This was a precise hit that a plane couldn't achieve, so take the blue pill and wake up from your dreams Neo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowTrip View Post
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    Or when you show me footage of a plane that supposedly hit the pentagon , none exists - there would have been all sorts of debris laying around and none was.

    Total farce.
    First you imply the existence of Flight 77 by mentioning it without coercion, then swiftly sidestep when its fate is mentioned in favour of demanding footage as though events in modern history could only occur if supported by footage, which I guess must be supplied by a likemindless source.

    Mug!

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    How do you know it wasn't purely accidental that it hit the Pentagon like that? Maybe they were trying to hit another part of the building and got it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy
    At 350 mph any paper cups or trash lying on the lawn probably got pulled into the hole too.
    oh yeah, try flying a plan at that speed 2m above the ground to hit a target. Impossible. This was a precise hit that a plane couldn't achieve, so take the blue pill and wake up from your dreams Neo.
    Better you watch this video and get back to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowTrip View Post
    The whole in the building does not match up
    Compared to which building that was previously hit by a foking commercial airliner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasak View Post
    Is the Pentagon a military target? Did the WTC towers contain Federal offices?
    Do arab/Muslim villages/localities 'apparently' randomly blitzed by the Great Satan contain terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowTrip View Post
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    No he is right , THEY FLEW JUMBO JETS AS BOMBS , and were successful in completing their mission.

    20 Guys ? 20 Focking guys brought the mighty USA to it's knees.

    They pulled that shit off and they if you check the score card it is still one zip in their favor.
    Ultimate bliss to some, yep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I really don't think Butterfly is trolling.

    Because I think it's his opinion.

    I have some similar opinions - not exactly the same - but similar.
    I think the WH would have been a better target and the US government would have got the message.

    WTC was really unbelievable !!! almost funny if it wasn't for the poor souls stuck inside. But definitely a worthless target strategically. But I guess that got the attention of the public.
    My guess is it would've been noticed even if the planes were randomly divebombed into NYC.

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    'Brought the mighty USA to its knees'? Oh, come on, what are you talking about? The only reason the USA reacted like it did simply reveals the depth of paranoia that exists in that country, and xenophobia. You talk like it's a game. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who've been killed as a direct result of the US military involvement in those countries.
    The truth is out there, but then I'm stuck in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    'Brought the mighty USA to its knees'? Oh, come on, what are you talking about? The only reason the USA reacted like it did simply reveals the depth of paranoia that exists in that country, and xenophobia. You talk like it's a game. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who've been killed as a direct result of the US military involvement in those countries.
    Well, it's still "Let's Roll" not Roll Over...

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