Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Florida is full of angry old white men in retirement

And that's exactly why he will fail.

Angry old white men are a minority. Literally and figuratively a dying breed.

Sure there might be pockets of outliers like Florida or TD but their effect on the election will be negligible.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Some new bombshell could drop on Clinton

The slow drip, drip of negative press re her emails and Clinton foundation is the only thing keeping the race close. Shame near 50% view both unfavorable.

^At last count Trump led in that column by 11 points.

Originally Posted by Humbert

At last count Trump led in that column by 11 points.

Yes. He is the least favorable.

^ not any more.

Poll: Clinton favorability slides to equal Trump - CNNPolitics.com

Originally Posted by Humbert

The percentage of Hispanic voters is much larger now than when GWB ran

which is why drumpf thinks that he can build a wall to allow him to win the US election

if longway and cold pizza had a baby together , drumpf would be more retarded

^ you seem unhappy about something baldick, relax what will be will be.

^ dunno , drumpf will throw a tantrum soon enough

^The Donald will rip the Hillary face right off during the debates; that is if she's brave and or cogent enough to face the "face ripper".

Hillary still is having a tough time simply facing the media for a press conference, day 272 still no press conference, and the media gives her a pass., kinda shocking really.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hilla...ry?id=41828072

well, it's not like she has anything interesting or new to say ? why bother with a press conf ?

Trump more interesting and funny during his press conf, go for it TRUMP !!!

Originally Posted by baldrick

if longway and cold pizza had a baby together

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^The Donald will rip the Hillary face right off during the debates; that is if she's brave and or cogent enough to face the "face ripper".

And today's new word Mr. Earl learned, to be used everywhere to try and make him look clever, is "cogent".

Seen it in two threads already, how many times are you going to use it before you move onto "lucid" or "articulate"?

^^ recent photo of bsnot after extensive corrective cosmetic surgery.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Hillary still is having a tough time simply facing the media for a press conference, day 272 still no press conference

Art of war: never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake.

Please proceed, governor.... etc etc

Hillary's incresingly bizarre email explanations are neither lucid nor articulate.

Clinton told FBI she thought classified markings were alphabetical paragraphs | Washington Examiner

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Hillary's incresingly bizarre email explanations are neither lucid nor articulate.

Clinton told FBI she thought classified markings were alphabetical paragraphs | Washington Examiner

The only people interested in this shit are the right. The ones that believe all the Benghazi crap, etc.

And really, they don't matter because they're in the minority.

what the emailgate is saying or proving is that she is careless and as incompetent as Trump when it comes to security matters,

so all her hot air lectures about her precious experiences and capacity to do things right is starting to sound a bit phony,

she is a fraud, as much as Trump is, but at least Trump is making no secret about it

what a reality TV circus, and Trump is going to win it

Obama wasn't a terrible POTUS, but he could have done more, that's for sure

fooking Republicans had his wings clipped, so the office of the President is not as powerful as we make it to be, Congress has a lot more power it seems

^God, what insight!

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

what the emailgate is saying or proving is that she is careless and as incompetent as Trump when it comes to security matters,

so all her hot air lectures about her precious experiences and capacity to do things right is starting to sound a bit phony,

she is a fraud, as much as Trump is, but at least Trump is making no secret about it

what a reality TV circus, and Trump is going to win it

Trump could do it as you say, but neither deserves to win and Americans should hang their heads in shame for presenting these two as their best for the job.

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by longway

Trump surging in the polls. Tied in ohio and close in Pennsylvania. Libtards are clutching each other in terror.

Poll: Trump within three in Pennsylvania, tied in Ohio « Hot Air Headlines

Good grief longway, you have really lost it. Let's have a little peek at your hero shall we?

I keep expecting to Trump to find bottom in his quest for idiocy but he is the gift that keeps on giving.

Things Trump has talked about and might give a sentient person cause for concern:

Mexicans BAD BAD BAD
Build a wall (now some can stay, now all have to go, now some can stay again).
Deport Illegal immigrants (don't call it deportation, exact rules change like the wind, YMMV)
Verbally attacking a Federal Judge who ruled against him in a lawsuit
Ban Muslims (But only from bad countries, exceptions for friends and family, it was only a suggestion, Its not about Muslims, Its negotiable, extreme vetting, ideology test)
Muslims celebrating 9/11 in NJ
Said Filipinos were animals
Insulting the disabled, disabled veterans, Gold Star families
Insulting so many people on Twitter there is a dedicated website for it (it's on theUpshot.com)
Belittling POWs and their injuries
Disrespecting a gifted purple heart.
Threaten to punch a midget
Taking a shot at the Pope (when the Pope calls you intolerant you've got SERIOUS problems!)
Calling a female reporter a bimbo and talking about her menstrual cycle
Singling out a reporter at a rally, necessitating a Secret Service escort of the reporter from the building. Also shushing same reporter.
Having five different positions on abortion in three days: criminalize abortion, don't criminalize abortion, arrest women, don't arrest women, ban abortions
Punishing women for having abortions
Publicly lusting after his daughter
Eject a baby from a rally
Hissy fit over the fire marshals at rallies
Refusal to distance himself from White Supremacy. Reposting white supremacy tweets. Refusing to condemn David Duke. Finally strong armed into disavowing David Duke.
Six pointed red stars for Hillary
Insinuating a "Second Amendment" solution for Clinton if she wins the general election.
Obama founded ISIS, and Hillary helped.
Saying Kaine was a horrible Governor of New Jersey (Yeah Kaine/Christie, easy mistake to make!)
Trying to insinuate Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination.
Trying to embarrass Ted Cruz by tweeting photos of Cruz's wife.
Why do we have nukes if we don't use them?
Not knowing what the Nuclear Triad was.
Saying he thinks Saudi fucking Arabia (also Japan and South Korea) should have nuclear weapons.
Not fulfill NATO obligations based on debt
Inviting the Russians to spy on/break into another candidates emails and files.
I like Putin and Russia isn't that bad
Unaware that Russia is already in the Crimea and Ukraine.
Changing the Republican party platform to say aid should be denied to Ukraine.
Lying about the Iranian money movie
Lying about opposing involvement in Libyan revolt
Wanting to carve out an Isis homeland in Syria
Syrian refugees are a humanitarian crisis and the US should help. The US shouldn't take refugees, Close the border, Don't close the border; but be careful.
Wanting to pay off Isis and Assad as if that would magically make everything better
Shredding trade deals (somehow) without presenting any alternative (other than "great deals!!")
Stating he would renegotiate the US debt with no consequences to anyone.
At least 4 distinct positions on minimum wage (Don't raise the minimum wage-CHINA BAD, Wages should rise based on economic growth, Abolish the federal minimum wage and let states set it, Set a minimum wage the states can ignore, set it to $10 and ignore everything else I said).
Multiple positions on taxes (Tax the wealthy, lower taxes on the wealthy, People like me should pay more, Cut everyone's taxes, New tax brackets)
ISIS BAD (send in troops and seize oil fields, Bomb the oil fields and send in troops, send in troops and get the oil, destroy the oil and let allies send in troops, Declare and send in "a small number" of troops)
Lying multiple times in ONE day about opposing invasion of Iraq
Obamacare bad (Repeal it and look to Canada (Ha!), Repeal it but keep the mandate, Repeal obamacare and cover everyone, Repeal Obamacare and cover some people, Repeal obamacare and replace it with something to be determined later)
Iran bad (Keep the current treaty but police it, Renegotiate the nuclear deal)
IRAQ Bad (I was for it, I was against it, Clinton was for it, Clinton was against it)
GUNS (Get rid of gun free zones, Get rid of guns in schools; mostly, trained teachers should have guns, Put trained gunmen in schools, Get rid of some gun free zones, Guns save lives, I didn't mean the night club should have more guns)
Climate Change (Doesn't exist, Climate change is threatening one of my golf courses)
LIBYA (2011 Intervention BAD, I didn't say that, the intervention is kind of ok, surgical intervention rather than a "strong" intervention)
National Debt (We can pay it off in eight years, Pay it off slowly and invest in infrastructure, Get creditors to accept less debt payments, We can print more money, I won't try to renegotiate the debt, take out more debt to pay debt with debt)
Attempt to foist all foreign and domestic responsibilities onto the VP so Trump can busy himself "Making America Great Again"
Money in politics (taking money from special interests sells your vote, people can donate if they don't expect anything in return, Trump campaign won't entirely self fund, Money in politics is okay if it helps the trump campaign).
Trying to manipulate the presidential debate schedule (and lying about a letter from the NFL)
Says something deliberately inflammatory, waits for the inevitable press attack and then tries to walk it back.
Engaging in stochastic terrorism. And lying about the secret service investigating said terrorism.
The polls are rigged against me.
The elections are rigged.
Encouraging people to "patrol" polling places to make sure everything is "okay"
"Was that wrong - should I have not done that?"
"I provide my employees childcare."
Bragging how he could make lots of money in the mortgage crisis
Multiple corporate and personal bankruptcies.
Lied about charitable donations
Send Americans to gitmo.
Re-institute waterboarding. Getting "Medieval" on people.
Kill families of terrorists.
I will order the army to torture people. Maybe I won't. Maybe the laws forbidding torture should be changed so people don't break those laws.
H1-Bs are good, bad, good, bad.
On ongoing feud with a magazine that went out of business years ago (Spy magazine - Short fingered vulgarian)
Denied pretending to be John Barron - his own publicist
Complaining when the Media accurately quotes what he says.
It is not "freedom of the press" when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false! (direct quote from twitter).
Trying to get Mar a Largo rezoned from residential to commercial and claiming the rich neighbors objected because they were racist.
Spent $85,000 on fear-stoking ads against the Central Park Five (who were proven innocent), doubled down after that.
Supported the Death Penalty, cited case in which accused black person was proven innocent as a reason to use it.
Lost lawsuit for attempting to harass black tenants in the 80s
Justice Department case about his refusal to rent to black tenants in the 70's.
Various scams including (but not limited to):Trump Vitamins and University
Being involved in over 3,500 lawsuits. (The exact count is subject to discussion)
Rape allegations, either buried in lawsuits or sealed in court orders.
Promising to release his tax returns and then finding reasons to not release them. Refusing to release tax returns because of IRS (The IRS has stated Trump can release his returns at his discretion).
Claims that constant audits are persecution for his Christian faith
Soliciting foreign nationals for campaign contributions.
Stating he would require political tests for people applying for visas (details are fluid)
He foreign policy speech (15/8) had so many internal contradictions and gaps nobody understood what his point was.
Claimed that Obama bribed the NY AG to sue Trump University
Fined $650,000 by the NJ Casino Commission for issues regarding his treatment of black casino employees.
The insinuation that he has ties to the NYC mafia/mobsters. Including LiButti (mobster and frequenter of Trump casinos), the construction companies that built Trump tower and Trump Plaza, Mobbed up concrete for said construction projects (settled and sealed), taking kickbacks from contractors (settled and buried before it went criminal), managing to have non-union labor at a union site without a picket line blockading the site (settled out of court and sealed), Getting his casino license background check shortened to six months (and so avoiding having to reveal any of the above to the casino commission), Trump providing character witness statements to people convicted of racketeering, drugs, etc and then having a job waiting for them when they roll out of jail, skirting several Grand jury and FBI investigations related to the above actions and people. This list is not complete but gives a good range of his activities.
Quintupled the rent Trump tower is charging the campaign once the donations started covering costs.
Claimed had met with a senior Chicago police officer to see about "getting tough" on crime and ending Chicago crime in a week. This has been thoroughly discredited by CPD leadership.
"Trying to appeal to minority voters" by saying racist things.

If you know of anything else, let me know...

Since you asked in a relatively same manner I will deal with them from the top down, a few I'm not going to indulge your pathology any further than that, the rest are probably get more and more inane.

He's never said Mexicans are bad bad bad, he said that illegal immigrants bring in crime, and during these illegal border crossings there are a large number of rapes.

He did say he will build a wall. You can find his 10 plan for dealing with illegal immigration here

What is Donald Trump?s 10-Point immigration plan? | PBS NewsHour

See the above for the third point.

He did attack federal judge verbally.

He said Mullin immigration should be stopped temporarily until it can be understood why so many from Muslim countries hate the usa. He has since modified his stance ensure strict vetting of people coming from any country that has significant terrorism.

Yes some Muslims did celebrate in nj, but not thousands.

He did not call filipinos animals, he called terrorists animals. An embarrassing gaffe for him as the phillipines does not have many if any terrorists.

As usual the points against him are twisted versions of what he actually days, based on ignorance of trump, or just inane.

Originally Posted by longway

As usual the points against him are twisted versions of what he actually days, based on ignorance of trump, or just inane.

How dare anybody bring up things that he has said!

Originally Posted by longway

He's never said Mexicans are bad bad bad, he said that illegal immigrants bring in crime, and during these illegal border crossings there are a large number of rapes.