^ earth to lalaland
I don't take any of this personally in the way you girls do.
If it was between Jeb and shillary I would not even pay attention to the election. Trump represents a change, if he doesn't get in, I will be disappointed, but that's it. I said that a long time ago already.
His fall is almost entirely due to the way he handed the khan situation; the shillary campaign set a good trap and he threw himself into it face first, and he has to recover from that.
Last edited by longway; 06-08-2016 at 02:13 AM.
are you 15yr old ?Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
No longway, I don't take any of this personally. I take it seriously. As a foreigner with no skin in the game and a thin grasp of the stakes for Americans you view it all abstractly like its some kind of game or reality show. We tolerate your twisting and inventing facts, re-editing quotes and name calling but you will be flouncing in November so we won't have you around much longer.Originally Posted by longway
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^ if you think I am wrong about libya, it's you who has a thin grasp of reality. Shillary is a warmongering shill who wil continue the destruction of your middle and working class, she has already destabilized the world more than gwb, and she has not even President yet.
She and Oblahblah have done more for isis than any other 2 people on earth. Ohblahblah allowed Isis to grow in Syria as they were a useful buffer against shia militias in Iraq. You don't know anything at all. I have to put up with your name calling and ignorance, but unlike you I don't take it personally.
You literally have no idea what the stakes are, let alone be able to evaluate them.
So don't come and lecture me with your imbecilic nonsense.
I won't be flouncing anywhere, I made a bet and if I lose I will honour it. But a fact twisting loon like you will never tell the truth about even that.
Last edited by longway; 06-08-2016 at 08:32 AM.
^You are simply an habitual liar who fabricates and embellishes and distorts history. A simpleton, a bigot, a desperate fool who supports torture, revenge killing and throwing out the constitution in favor of strongman rule.
^ you don't have a clue, and it's willful ignorance at that. You can't refute me do as usual you resort to name calling and bizarre accusations.
^I've refuted you on several occasions regarding Libya. You are impervious to the facts and live in a fantasy landscape propagated by tin foil hat loons who are you're only source of information.
Forwarded to me by a friend on Facebook.
"For all my conspiracy theory Republican friends. Time for a history lesson:
Ford pardoned Nixon. Reagan sold arms to Iran and funded a secret war that congress knew nothing about and then lied to the American people about it. George Bush Sr. told us no new taxes and then we know what happened. His son lied about Iraq's role in 9/11 and led us into the costliest war in US history. Cheney outed a covert CIA agent as a political payback. And Hillary, in your opinion, is the worst of the worst for using a private server. Time for a little perspective."
Your idea of refuting me visits of nothing more than denying it happened or twisting what I say then trying force me to defend it and then calling me names, so yes I am impervious to your nonsense.
Here is a source for hitlery's antics regarding Libya. Is salon iyo a tinfoil hat conspiracy site? All the stuff about Hillary's disaster in libya is well documented and requires willful ignorance to hold any other position than she is a warmonger.
Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was - Salon.com
and anotherThe Times spoke of “Clinton’s deep belief in America’s power to do good in the world,” but did not stress that this belief is rooted in an aggressive militarism. It did quote French President Sarkozy, who fondly remembered how the secretary of state “was tough, she was bullish,” but the Times’ reporting understated Clinton’s belligerence.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/13/as_r...nderstand_how/As reckless as George W. Bush: Hillary Clinton helped create disorder in Iraq, Libya, Syria — and, scarier, doesn’t seem to understand how
This is a dangerous figure, and I use the word advisedly, not rhetorically. Over eight years as First Lady, eight more as a New York senator and four as secretary of state, Clinton has proven repeatedly abusive of social order and careless of human life. It is time we face these facts and act accordingly. This holds especially for those given to false consciousness or lesser-of-evils arguments as they decide what to do next November 8.
Last edited by longway; 06-08-2016 at 12:29 PM.
agree, absolutely. And yet our Democrat friends here are in denial over this. They sound more and more like blind GW Bush supporters on the eve of the Iraq war.Originally Posted by longway
she is not bad for using a private server, she is bad because she will do fuck all and please her Israeli masters. And comparing her with other sociopaths is now ok as an excuse for her incompetence ? god, how desperate are you ?Originally Posted by Humbert
absolutely, and that alone is just showing what kind of person we are dealing with. A bad president.Originally Posted by longway
Don't be so fucking stupid man.
Obama would have got shot of Assad and formed a majority Sunni government in Syria if Putin hadn't blocked every UN resolution. That probably would have been a relatively peaceful transition.
It's that fucking crook Putin's fault.
And Islamic State was founded in Iraq under Bush's watch you idiot.
^^^The Salon articles you cite were written this year. They are opinion pieces. At the time Gaddafi was slaughtering his own people in the streets witnessed by journalists no one had the luxury of making a critical historical assessment. It went wrong but the intentions were right. If history judges Clinton, Sarkozy and Cameron harshly that burden comes with the job.
^ Look its your prerogative to disagree no matter how ludicrous your opinion, the point is that the sources documenting hitlery's aggressive tendencies extend far beyond 'tin foil wearing hat loons'.
Here is another tinfoil hat loon that is a source backing up what I say. In his spare time, when he not wearing his tin foil hat, he is a professor emeritus of russian studies at princeton and new york university.
Russia Expert Stephen Cohen: Trump Wants To Stop The New Cold War, But The America Media Just Doesn't Understand | Video | RealClearPolitics
Humpback, you have no idea of what the stakes are.Cohen says the media at large is doing a huge disservice to the American people by ignoring the substance of Trump's arguments about NATO and Russia, and buying the Clinton campaign's simplistic smear that Trump is a Russian "Manchurian candidate."
"That reckless branding of Trump as a Russian agent, most of it is coming from the Clinton campaign," Cohen said. "And they really need to stop."
"We're approaching a Cuban Missile Crisis level nuclear confrontation with Russia," he explained. "And there is absolutely no discussion, no debate, about this in the American media."
"Then along comes, unexpectedly, Donald Trump," he continued, "Who says he wants to end the New Cold War, and cooperate with Russia in various places... and --astonishingly-- the media is full of what only can be called neo-McCarthyite charges that he is a Russian agent, that he is a Manchurian candidate, and that he is Putin's client."
"This is a moment when there should be, in a presidential year, a debate," he said. "And that is not what we are given in the media today."
^Stephen Cohen is a well known Putin apologist. Trump has become an unwitting puppet of Putin. A useful idiot.
Last edited by Humbert; 06-08-2016 at 01:50 PM.
Originally Posted by Humbert
sound more and more like Boon Mee, how times have changed
you mean like the Iraq war ?Originally Posted by Humbert
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Not exactly. Bush was a puppet. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were in charge and they deliberately mislead the world and concocted evidence. At least Clinton took a strong and decisive stand at the time even if in hindsight it left Libya in a shambles. At the time the humanitarian voices in the world were clammoring for action against Gaddafi. If we would have supported him and he started a campaign of retribution against the rebel factions and their civilian supporters world public opinion would have judged that result harshly as well. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. With Trump you have an unhinged lunatic capable of anything.Originally Posted by Dragonfly
People don't seem to realise how many countries would explode if you took the cork out.
You only have to look how unruly Thailand is when the army haven't got their foot on the peoples' necks.
If the Al Sauds ever lost power, the whole of the Gulf would go to shit.
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