Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Humbert

^let's hope so.

Looking in from the outside it appears that Bernie was the only hope of bringing some sanity into US politics and foreign policy. Hillery is all for war and will likely start another if she makes it to the white house, she has been shown to lie when it suits her so therefore cant be trusted to formulate any policies she puts forward and even if she tried she still has to get them past congress.

But there is still hope for President Sanders, there is I read a criminal investigation going on into the Email thing and it will only take one more scandal and Hillery could be out.

And you want Bernie killed off. Well I suppose the US has killed most of its good presidents and given the bad ones a second term and there are plenty of guns around to do the job so no need for a knife.

Originally Posted by birding

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by birding

What does Bernie get for supporting her, VP ?

Maybe he accepts VISA. Or a ham would be nice.

Cold cuts if he is lucky, but most likely stabbed in the back.

Na she's more likely to come right out and stab him in the front.

Always the back, she is far too cowardly for a frontal assault.

Originally Posted by birding

Hillery is all for war

What a ridiculous distortion on her views.
Foreigners tend to only focus on foreign policy and domestic policy is usually of no concern.

A USA citizen, Muslim imam who supposedly backed the coup in Turkey also gave dosh to Hillary for her campaign.

Turkey wants him extradited to face the music.

He denies any involvement .

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by birding

Hillery is all for war

What a ridiculous distortion on her views.
Foreigners tend to only focus on foreign policy and domestic policy is usually of no concern.

I normally do some research before I post and several pages back on this topic there was a comparison between what she and Bernie had voted for and against in the past and she had voted for every war going, look for it yourself.

You see the part of US policy that effects the rest of the world most is its overseas policy particularly starting wars, arming and encouraging rebels to attack their governments and sanctions. Most of them illegal under international law.

However domestic policy can also affect others, think back to 2008 and more recently the support for fracking and starting to export oil which has helped cause a worldwide glut and prices to fall.

After 40-year ban, U.S. starts exporting crude oil - Jan. 29, 2016

Originally Posted by birding

I normally do some research before I post and several pages back on this topic there was a comparison between what she and Bernie had voted for and against in the past and she had voted for every war going, look for it yourself.
You see the part of US policy that effects the rest of the world most is its overseas policy particularly starting wars, arming and encouraging rebels to attack their governments and sanctions. Most of them illegal under international law.
However domestic policy can also affect others, think back to 2008 and more recently the support for fracking and starting to export oil which has helped cause a worldwide glut and prices to fall.

Nevertheless, you are prone to making sweeping generalizations that lead to fallacious conclusions. In short, an idiot.

Originally Posted by Humbert

In short, an idiot.

In his defense he does great photos of birds.

More on Tim Kaine

A little "balance." The VP would be a job I like. Here are some details on Kain'es positions (not that it matters). You literally do nothing and stay out of the way.

Maybe HRC will get ill within 8 years, if she wins....

IMO, smart pick by HRC.

Hillary Clinton Selects Tim Kaine, a Popular Senator From a Swing State, as Running Mate

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us...dent.html?_r=0

I've just read several emails from and to Wasserman-Schults, Luis Miranda, and other DNC people.

It's pretty disgusting.

I (hopefully) see more and more Independents leaving HRC for this and not voting for her.


Emails Released by WikiLeaks Appear to Show DNC Trying to Aid Hillary Clinton
By ALANA ABRAMSON SHUSHANNAH WALSHE Jul 22, 2016
Emails Released by WikiLeaks Appear to Show DNC Trying to Aid Hillary Clinton - ABC News


Wikileaks Proves Primary Was Rigged: DNC Undermined Democracy
20,000 freshly leaked emails reveal resentful disdain toward Sanders, as party favored Clinton long before any votes were cast
By Michael Sainato • 07/22/16 2:00pm
Wikileaks Proves Primary Was Rigged: DNC Undermined Democracy | Observer



New DNC email leak reveals anti-Sanders bias, pro-Clinton collusion among top officials
Published time: 22 Jul, 2016 18:26
https://www.rt.com/usa/352752-dnc-le...ton-collusion/

So, we call this journalism?

Leaked emails reveal Politico reporter made 'agreement' to send advanced Clinton story to DNC
Oliver Darcy




US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks at the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees convention in Las Vegas. Thomson Reuters

An influential reporter at Politico made an apparent "agreement" with the Democratic National Committee to let it review a story about Hillary Clinton's fundraising machine before it was submitted to his editors, leaked emails published by WikiLeaks on Friday revealed.

Reporter Kenneth Vogel sent an advanced copy of his story to DNC national press secretary Mark Paustenbach in late April.

The email's subject line read: "per agreement ... any thoughts appreciated."
"Vogel gave me his story ahead of time/before it goes to his editors as long as I didn't share it," Paustenbach wrote in an email to Luis Miranda, the DNC's communications director.

"Let me know if you see anything that's missing and I'll push back," he added.
A leaked email revealed that a top Politico reporter gave a DNC representative an advanced copy of a story as part of an "agreement." WikiLeaks

The final copy of the story did not appear have any significant edits, and Clinton's campaign seemed unhappy with the final copy of the article. But sending an advanced copy of a story to a subject represents a break from typical journalistic ethics.

Neither Vogel nor a representative for Politico were available for comment at the time of publication.

A person with knowledge of the agreement, however, said that it was made to ensure accuracy in a complex story.

http://www.businessinsider.com/leake...kileaks-2016-7

^Pretty benign stuff. I'm sure you have no idea what it means or implies.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^Pretty benign stuff. I'm sure you have no idea what it means or implies.

It's not "benign."

The DNC machine get to push who it likes.

And then add the Supers.

I'm sure you have no idea what it means.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

The final copy of the story did not appear have any significant edits, and Clinton's campaign seemed unhappy with the final copy of the article. But sending an advanced copy of a story to a subject represents a break from typical journalistic ethics.

This is a non-story being puffed up into another "scandal". I think political staffs get advanced copies of stories all the time to see what the push back is.

Originally Posted by longway

DNC treatment of Sanders at issue in emails leaked to Wikileaks - CNNPolitics.com

Proof that the dnc conspired to undermine Bernie during the primaries.

So what?

We've already had proof that Bernie tried to undermine Hillary during the primaries.

Ultimately Bernie lost fair and square.

It will be interesting to see if he has a sour grapes moment next week.

Originally Posted by Humbert

You act like the notion of super delegates are a Clinton invention

Show me where I implied or explicitly stated it was a "Clinton invention."

I have specifically noted Supers were created in 1984.

^^ the turd polishing commences.

You can't polish this turd either. He looks like terminallyillary's henpecked husband. This choice alone is going to cost her a few points in the polls at least. He looks the type that was bullied at school. She needed a young handsome guy as a contrast or an alpha male to attract the male vote., what a crap choice. Poor judgement as always.

Originally Posted by longway

You can't polish this turd either. He looks like terminallyillary's henpecked husband. This choice alone is going to cost her a few points in the polls at least. He looks the type that was bullied at school. She needed a young handsome guy as a contrast or an alpha male to attract the male vote

Another gay comment. I suppose you will be commenting on his shirts next.

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by birding

What does Bernie get for supporting her, VP ?

Maybe he accepts VISA. Or a ham would be nice.

Cold cuts if he is lucky, but most likely stabbed in the back.

As usual, I was right.

^^ if he is as bland and boring as he looks, he is a bad choice for her.

Originally Posted by longway

^^ if he is as bland and boring as he looks, he is a bad choice for her.

You know nothing about American politics. As usual.