Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I had no kids and grand kids I would wish for your dreams to come true, as then you would see the fallacy what you dream for.

Nice. Wishing for misery and suffering to befall others, how very Christian of you.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I had no kids and grand kids I would wish for your dreams to come true, as then you would see the fallacy what you dream for.

Nice. Wishing for misery and suffering to befall others, how very Christian of you.

Maybe RPETER worships Satan and Misery?

So, do you Hillary supporters think....this is a good thing. Raising a Billion?

Former Colorado senator and presidential candidate Gary Hart said that the amount of money required to run a modern presidential campaign should frighten Americans.

By JONATHAN TOPAZ 4/5/15

Gary Hart has serious reservations about a Hillary Clinton candidacy.
The prospect of a billion-dollar Clinton campaign “ought to frighten every American,” he said in an interview with POLITICO, and Democrats would be better served by a competitive primary that forced her to speak in more depth about the issues.


Hart, a two-time Democratic presidential candidate, offered his opinions in a phone interview Wednesday where he also expressed admiration of Elizabeth Warren and gave advice to prospective challenger Martin O’Malley, a former Hart campaign staffer.

“I like Hillary Clinton. I really appreciate what she and her husband have done … but we need new leaders,” said Hart, a former Colorado senator who rose from the bottom of the polls and nearly took down Walter Mondale in the 1984 primaries.

The post-Citizens United campaign finance environment has sullied the presidential process, he said, benefiting establishment politicians who cater to financial backers. He pointed to his own experience, noting that he and his wife mortgaged their home for between $50,000 and $75,000 — an amount that made a significant difference in his first campaign in 1984.

“I’m now told the Clinton campaign intends to raise $1 billion. Now, that ought to frighten every American,” he said.


The role of money in elections, the 78-year-old Hart said, is a driving force behind the current “dynastic” nature of American politics.

“If you’ve got to have a billion dollars to run for president, how many people can do that? Only the Clintons and the Bushes and one or two others,” he said.
“This country is 330 million people, and we should not be down to two families.


Read more: Gary Hart: Billion-dollar Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign should 'frighten' Americans - POLITICO

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Hillary supporters

What's the difference between clinton and bush supporters?

Both are sedated, ignorant and zombie-like, supporting different sides of the same coin with no idea what they're doing.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I had no kids and grand kids I would wish for your dreams to come true, as then you would see the fallacy what you dream for.

Nice. Wishing for misery and suffering to befall others, how very Christian of you.

Is that's what you think the liberal agenda will bring?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

you seem to be far too brain washed by the preaching of the libtards to be able to comprehend anything outside that fantasy world you have been conned in to living in, but good luck I hope it treats you good.

Brainwashed? Sorry pal liberals are the types of folk who shrug off dogma and spoon fed nonsense. Thats why many of us have been able to look at things like religion and reject it as the snake oil that it is.

The same carries over to politics, you swallow right wing talking points hook line and sinker. You dont question it. If it was on a right wing blog, fox news or was spouted by some republican you eat it up without question. No matter how nonsensical it may be.

The same is true of your religious beliefs you believe what some dogma spouting reverend shouts from his bully pulpit no matter how absurd. It is your religious beliefs that also pervert your political views. My viewpoints are not clouded by dogma.

No pal it is not me who is brainwashed. Not even close.

Why do you think that liberals are arrogant and laugh at your ridiculous views? It is because we recognize how stupid they really are.

Deconstructing the Right-Wing Alternate Reality | Mother Jones

The GOP lives in an alternate reality | Paul Harris | Comment is free | The Guardian

Conservative alternate reality starts with the children

How Conservative Media Lost to the MSM and Failed the Rank and File ? The Atlantic

Are you saying you leave no room for diversity in the US?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Actually you have it backwards

You just keep telling yourself that. In your world the imaginary man in the sky has all the answers.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Maybe RPETER worships Satan and Misery?

I dont know but it is utterly pointless trying to have a rational, reasoned discussion with him. He is a fox news poster boy. His brain is overtaken by dogma and spoon fed talking points.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you saying you leave no room for diversity in the US?

My world is full of diversity. Its your world were it is lacking.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

big socialist govnt

You have no clue what Socialism is. You spew that nonsense because your puppet masters hammer it into your brain.

Socialism has nothing to do with big government.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Actually you have it backwards

You just keep telling yourself that. In your world the imaginary man in the sky has all the answers.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Maybe RPETER worships Satan and Misery?

I dont know but it is utterly pointless trying to have a rational, reasoned discussion with him. He is a fox news poster boy. His brain is overtaken by dogma and spoon fed talking points.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you saying you leave no room for diversity in the US?

My world is full of diversity. Its your world were it is lacking.

Your posts do not seem to advocate diversity, you speak of laughing at christians is that an example of diversity, I don't think so, it seems your diversity only includes those who think as you do. If I were to take to the streets and mock gays you would cry hate speech.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

you speak of laughing at christians is that an example of diversity

On this web forum or when talking with people I know yes I let my opinion be known but I would never laugh at someone based on their beliefs.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your posts do not seem to advocate diversity

Nonsense.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I were to take to the streets and mock gays you would cry hate speech.

That is what it is.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

big socialist govnt

You have no clue what Socialism is. You spew that nonsense because your puppet masters hammer it into your brain.

Socialism has nothing to do with big government.

We have had this discussion in a previous thread where I proved you wrong but for some reason you would never state what your idea of socialism is. Why don't you share your vision for America?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

you speak of laughing at christians is that an example of diversity

On this web forum or when talking with people I know yes I let my opinion be known but I would never laugh at someone based on their beliefs.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your posts do not seem to advocate diversity

Nonsense.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I were to take to the streets and mock gays you would cry hate speech.

That is what it is.

And you mocking Christians is not? Just another example of your selective diversity.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

you speak of laughing at christians is that an example of diversity

On this web forum or when talking with people I know yes I let my opinion be known but I would never laugh at someone based on their beliefs.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your posts do not seem to advocate diversity

Nonsense.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If I were to take to the streets and mock gays you would cry hate speech.

That is what it is.

But in a previous post you said you do lauph at christians making you also a hypocrit.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

We have had this discussion in a previous thread where I proved you wrong

Jesus you live in a fantasy world. You have NEVER proven ANYTHING I have ever posted wrong. Not once. There is no way that you can in anyway tie Obama or the current government to Socialism. Like I said the only thing you know about Socialism is what Glenn Beck has told you.

Prove me wrong? HAHAAA!!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But in a previous post you said you do lauph at christians making you also a hypocrit. RPETER65 is online now Add to RPETER65's Reputation Report Post

I laugh at all people who are slaves to false dogma but I also feel sorry for them. I laugh to myself and in private.

That is not being a bigot. Good god you are dense.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

We have had this discussion in a previous thread where I proved you wrong

Jesus you live in a fantasy world. You have NEVER proven ANYTHING I have ever posted wrong. Not once. There is no way that you can in anyway tie Obama or the current government to Socialism. Like I said the only thing you know about Socialism is what Glenn Beck has told you.

Prove me wrong? HAHAAA!!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But in a previous post you said you do lauph at christians making you also a hypocrit. RPETER65 is online now Add to RPETER65's Reputation Report Post

I laugh at all people who are slaves to false dogma but I also feel sorry for them. I laugh to myself and in private.

That is not being a bigot. Good god you are dense.

What ever.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

We have had this discussion in a previous thread where I proved you wrong

Jesus you live in a fantasy world. You have NEVER proven ANYTHING I have ever posted wrong. Not once. There is no way that you can in anyway tie Obama or the current government to Socialism. Like I said the only thing you know about Socialism is what Glenn Beck has told you.

Prove me wrong? HAHAAA!!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But in a previous post you said you do lauph at christians making you also a hypocrit. RPETER65 is online now Add to RPETER65's Reputation Report Post

I laugh at all people who are slaves to false dogma but I also feel sorry for them. I laugh to myself and in private.

That is not being a bigot. Good god you are dense.

In a privious post you said I had no idea what socialism is I stated what I believe socialism is you again stated I had no I dea what socialism is I then went to wikelpedia and qouted from there almost word for word what I had stated you no reply.

So again I

ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

Where have I evdr stated tied Obama's administration to socialism,if I tied it to anything it would be tyranny.

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So again I ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

I am not running for office and have no desire to sit hear for the next hour typing out all of the things in America that need changing. Republicans have done massive damage to this country that the nation has still not recovered from even after six years of a Democrat in the white house. Some of the most obvious things I would like to see changed;

Repeal citizens united.
End the disastrous Bush tax cuts.
Raise taxes on the rich substantially.
Pass a constitutional amendment removing money from politics.
Enact term limits.
Force big corporations to repatriate the $2.1 trillion that they have parked offshore refusing to pay taxes on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

It is going splendidly. Many restaurants have voluntarily increased wages ahead of schedule.

Have you heard differently? I will remind you that I live in the city of Seattle and have many friends who own and work in the restaurant industry here so you may want to check your facts very carefully before posting up some nonsense from a right wing blog.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Where have I evdr stated tied Obama's administration to socialism,if I tied it to anything it would be tyranny.

Are you saying Obama is a tyrant or just the people who work for him?
Just so we're not a crossed purposes could you give a few examples of tyrannical things he/his admin has done?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

We have had this discussion in a previous thread where I proved you wrong

Jesus you live in a fantasy world. You have NEVER proven ANYTHING I have ever posted wrong. Not once. There is no way that you can in anyway tie Obama or the current government to Socialism. Like I said the only thing you know about Socialism is what Glenn Beck has told you.

Prove me wrong? HAHAAA!!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But in a previous post you said you do lauph at christians making you also a hypocrit. RPETER65 is online now Add to RPETER65's Reputation Report Post

I laugh at all people who are slaves to false dogma but I also feel sorry for them. I laugh to myself and in private.

That is not being a bigot. Good god you are dense.

So you are a bigot without balls.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So again I ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

I am not running for office and have no desire to sit hear for the next hour typing out all of the things in America that need changing. Republicans have done massive damage to this country that the nation has still not recovered from even after six years of a Democrat in the white house. Some of the most obvious things I would like to see changed;

Repeal citizens united.
End the disastrous Bush tax cuts.
Raise taxes on the rich substantially.
Pass a constitutional amendment removing money from politics.
Enact term limits.
Force big corporations to repatriate the $2.1 trillion that they have parked offshore refusing to pay taxes on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

It is going splendidly. Many restaurants have voluntarily increased wages ahead of schedule.

Have you heard differently? I will remind you that I live in the city of Seattle and have many friends who own and work in the restaurant industry here so you may want to check your facts very carefully before posting up some nonsense from a right wing blog.

I have heard different, substantial price increases, closings, lay offs.

Get out of the U- District where you are surround by liberal nut jobs and you might learn something. Are you saying by living in Seattle you have your finger on the entire pulse of the Seattle restaraunt business, then you can tell me about Ivars 21% increase in pricing.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So again I ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

I am not running for office and have no desire to sit hear for the next hour typing out all of the things in America that need changing. Republicans have done massive damage to this country that the nation has still not recovered from even after six years of a Democrat in the white house. Some of the most obvious things I would like to see changed;

Repeal citizens united.
End the disastrous Bush tax cuts.
Raise taxes on the rich substantially.
Pass a constitutional amendment removing money from politics.
Enact term limits.
Force big corporations to repatriate the $2.1 trillion that they have parked offshore refusing to pay taxes on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

It is going splendidly. Many restaurants have voluntarily increased wages ahead of schedule.

Have you heard differently? I will remind you that I live in the city of Seattle and have many friends who own and work in the restaurant industry here so you may want to check your facts very carefully before posting upl
some nonsense from a right wing blog.

Looks like we have found some common ground I totally agree with term limits.getting a constitutional amendment may be a little tough considering what it takes. Maybe you could talk with Obama about using his pen and telephone he seems to be quite good with those. All though I do agree they need to get the money out of politics.A good start at getting corporate money back in the US would be getting corporate tax rate close to that of foriegn countries, enticing usually works better than force.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So again I ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

I am not running for office and have no desire to sit hear for the next hour typing out all of the things in America that need changing. Republicans have done massive damage to this country that the nation has still not recovered from even after six years of a Democrat in the white house. Some of the most obvious things I would like to see changed;

Repeal citizens united.
End the disastrous Bush tax cuts.
Raise taxes on the rich substantially.
Pass a constitutional amendment removing money from politics.
Enact term limits.
Force big corporations to repatriate the $2.1 trillion that they have parked offshore refusing to pay taxes on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

It is going splendidly. Many restaurants have voluntarily increased wages ahead of schedule.

Have you heard differently? I will remind you that I live in the city of Seattle and have many friends who own and work in the restaurant industry here so you may want to check your facts very carefully before posting up some nonsense from a right wing blog.

Citizens United's stated mission is to restore the United States government to "citizens' control" and to "assert American values of limited government, freedom of enterprise, strong families, and national sovereignty and security." To fulfill this mission, Citizens United undertakes various marketing projects, including television advertising and feature-length documentaries.[1]

Why are you against this stated mission

^She is a scary looking old broad!

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So again I ask why don't you tell us your vision for America.

I am not running for office and have no desire to sit hear for the next hour typing out all of the things in America that need changing. Republicans have done massive damage to this country that the nation has still not recovered from even after six years of a Democrat in the white house. Some of the most obvious things I would like to see changed;

Repeal citizens united.
End the disastrous Bush tax cuts.
Raise taxes on the rich substantially.
Pass a constitutional amendment removing money from politics.
Enact term limits.
Force big corporations to repatriate the $2.1 trillion that they have parked offshore refusing to pay taxes on.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By the way how is that $15 minimum wage working out for the Seattle restaraunt industry?

It is going splendidly. Many restaurants have voluntarily increased wages ahead of schedule.

Have you heard differently? I will remind you that I live in the city of Seattle and have many friends who own and work in the restaurant industry here so you may want to check your facts very carefully before posting up some nonsense from a right wing blog.

As the implementation date for Seattle’s strict $15 per hour minimum wage law approaches, the city is experiencing a rising trend in restaurant closures. The tough new law goes into effect April 1st. The closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill neighborhood, to Little Uncle in gritty Pioneer Square, to the Boat Street Cafe on Western Avenue near the waterfront.

The shut-downs have idled dozens of low-wage workers, the very people advocates say the wage law is supposed to help. Instead of delivering the promised “living wage” of $15 an hour, economic realities created by the new law have dropped the hourly wage for these workers to zero.

Advocates of a high minimum wage said businesses would simply pay the mandated wage out of profits, raising earnings for workers. Restaurants operate on thin margins, though, with average profits of 4% or less, and the business is highly competitive.