2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

**buriramboy** · 16-03-2015, 06:12 PM

If the Republicans had put up Ron Paul instead of Mitt Romney last time they might have had a chance of beating Barry, but keep putting forward loons who aren't going to appeal to Americas ever changing demographic and you're going to have a Democrat President for eternity. 8 years of Hilary coming up and the Republicans only have themselves to blame.

**helge** · 16-03-2015, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by buriramboy

If the Republicans had put up Ron Paul

No money

**bsnub** · 17-03-2015, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by koman

It's actually quite fun to watch the TD Marxist brigade salivating and drooling over the prospect of a Hillary presidency.

What is fun is watching you draw conclusions out of the sky. I do not see anyone posting that they are excited to see her elected. However when you compare her to the potential republican candidates she looks better by leaps and bounds.

I personally would love to see a Warren/Sanders ticket myself. That would make boons head explode. Hell he just might flounce for good then.

**Boon Mee** · 17-03-2015, 08:52 AM

Hillary Spent $527K To Fly Herself And Her Staff On Taxpayer-Funded Private Charter Flights While In The Senate.

Hillary wasn’t aware of what accounts were being used when she booked her flights with the Gnome Travel Agency, it is in her emails.

Before her 2006 Senate re-election campaign and 2008 presidential bid, then-senator Hillary Rodham Clinton dramatically increased her use of taxpayer-funded charter flights, becoming the Senate’s biggest spender on reported charter airfare.

In the four years before the 2008 presidential campaign, she spent more than $300,000 on charters while the four other senators running for president — including then-senator Barack Obama — took a grand total of two taxpayer-funded charter flights.

Clinton spent $225,000 traveling on such charters during her eight-year tenure. That covers only her own airfare. The figure rose to $527,000 when the cost of the staff who flew with her is included. Clinton almost always flew with senior adviser Huma Abedin, and spokesman Philippe Reines was also a regular passenger, Senate spending records show.

Clinton’s charter spending blossomed as her 2006 re-election loomed, rising from $85,000 in 2004 to $150,000 in 2006.[…]

Clinton’s travel was part of “her tireless work on behalf of New York,” spokesman Nick Merrill said, and “she constantly crisscrossed the state to meet with the people she represented.”[…]

It wasn’t all New York travel. USA TODAY found 28 of her office flights traveled outside New York at a total cost to taxpayers of $42,000, including trips to Atlanta to speak at a synagogue, Boston to speak about stem cell research, and Charleston, S.C., for the Renaissance Weekend, an annual New Year’s Day conference."

Clinton spent heavily on charters before races

Rules are for the little people...

**Boon Mee** · 17-03-2015, 08:55 AM

Poll: Majority Now See Hillary’s Use Of Private Emails As A Problem…

And the news keeps getting worse and worse for her.

Washington (CNN)- Unfavorable views of Hillary Clinton are on the rise and perceptions of her as “honest and trustworthy” have dropped following the revelation that while serving as secretary of state she used a personal email address and home-based server to conduct State Department business.

But questions about Clinton’s email practices may not harm her chances if she makes a run for the White House in 2016, as a new CNN/ORC poll finds 57% of Americans say she’s someone they’d be proud to have as their president."

Poll: Hillary Clinton's email divides public - CNN.com

That' 57% of the LIV's for sure

**Humbert** · 17-03-2015, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by koman

TD Marxist brigade

You forgot the 'smiley'

The NY Times has had a long time grudge against the Clintons. This just another hatched job insipred by their publisher who once said that he had a 'love/hate affair' with the Clintons to which Bill quipped in reply 'I've seen the hate but I have yet to see the love'.

**Boon Mee** · 17-03-2015, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by koman

TD Marxist brigade

You forgot the 'smiley'

Also referred to as the TDMA.

Teak Door Marxist Alliance

**harrybarracuda** · 17-03-2015, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Poll: Majority Now See Hillary’s Use Of Private Emails As A Problem…

And the news keeps getting worse and worse for her.

Washington (CNN)- Unfavorable views of Hillary Clinton are on the rise and perceptions of her as “honest and trustworthy” have dropped following the revelation that while serving as secretary of state she used a personal email address and home-based server to conduct State Department business.

But questions about Clinton’s email practices may not harm her chances if she makes a run for the White House in 2016, as a new CNN/ORC poll finds 57% of Americans say she’s someone they’d be proud to have as their president."

Poll: Hillary Clinton's email divides public - CNN.com

That' 57% of the LIV's for sure

You want to explain how it's getting worse for her?

You plank.

**Boon Mee** · 17-03-2015, 05:51 PM

^
Heh...she's toast but you disillusioned Koo lAide Clinton drinkers won't believe until you are as dead as Jim Jones followers.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-03-2015, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^
Heh...she's toast but you disillusioned Koo lAide Clinton drinkers won't believe until you are as dead as Jim Jones followers.

You're the one that posted it numpty!

**harrybarracuda** · 18-03-2015, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Hillary Spent $527K To Fly Herself And Her Staff On Taxpayer-Funded Private Charter Flights While In The Senate.

It seems the teabaggers don't wait too long before shoving their snouts in the trough..... I'm surprised they have the time to dig up old whinges about Hillary.

I wonder when the criminal charges for fraud will come?

Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock resigned Tuesday, less than 12 hours after POLITICO raised questions about tens of thousands of dollars in mileage reimbursements he received for his personal vehicle.
Schock billed the federal government and his campaign for logging roughly 170,000 miles on his personal car from January 2010 through July 2014. But when he sold that Chevrolet Tahoe in July 2014, it had roughly 80,000 miles on the odometer, according to public records obtained by POLITICO under Illinois open records laws. The documents, in other words, indicate he was reimbursed for 90,000 miles more than his car was driven.

Gotta love his "reason" for resigning!

Schock says that “constant questions” have become a distraction and made it too difficult for him to serve the people who elected him, with the high standards that they deserve and that he expects of himself.

So it's the "constant questions" not the "Because I am a fucking thief".

On Monday, new details emerged about a business deal between a political donor and a shell company that has been linked to Schock, raising even more suspicion of potentially dishonest practices. The Associated Press reported that the Office of Congressional Ethics had begun contacting Schock associates for a potential investigation.

Schock has repaid the government $40,000 after spending money from his official office budget on the redecoration, Politico said. The congressman also reimbursed taxpayers more than $1,200 after using his office account to fly on a private plane to a Chicago Bears football game.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Details emerged Monday of another business deal between embattled Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock and one of his political donors, as a congressional ethics investigation appeared to get underway.

A shell company linked to Schock paid a political donor $750,000 last year for a warehouse in Peoria, then took out a $600,000 mortgage for the property from a local bank run by other donors, a combination of Illinois land records and private business documents shows.

I could go on but you get the idea....

**Boon Mee** · 18-03-2015, 04:19 PM

Time: Hillary Clinton’s emails weren’t even read before they were deleted.

As we’re well aware, Hillary Clinton’s private email server, the HIL-9000, contained tens of thousands of emails. How did Team Clinton supposedly separate the “personal” from the “work related” so they knew which ones to turn over to State?

For more than a year after she left office in 2013, she did not transfer work-related email from her private account to the State Department. She commissioned a review of the 62,320 messages in her account only after the department — spurred by the congressional investigation — asked her to do so. And this review did not involve opening and reading each email; instead, Clinton’s lawyers created a list of names and keywords related to her work and searched for those. Slightly more than half the total cache — 31,830 emails — did not contain any of the search terms, according to Clinton’s staff, so they were deemed to be “private, personal records.”

Hillary and Bill Clinton: TIME Cover Story

Michelle Malkin | » Trust her: Hillary Clinton only deleted personal emails, such as the ones that Bill never sent

**Norton** · 18-03-2015, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why not put your thoughts into candidates who want to End The Fed and give the world a break.

Diogenes with his lantern tried couple thousand years ago to find an honest man who might do such a thing. He failed. He'd fail today as well. Nothing has changed.

**pseudolus** · 18-03-2015, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why not put your thoughts into candidates who want to End The Fed and give the world a break.

Diogenes with his lantern tried couple thousand years ago to find an honest man who might do such a thing. He failed. He'd fail today as well. Nothing has changed.

Note how already Rand Paul is being sidelined and all the mainstream corporate media is hyping Bush and fucking Romney again. Its a good thing though; the last president who started the process to wind it up was murdered by a bunch of bastards on behalf of criminal LBJ

**S Landreth** · 18-03-2015, 07:06 PM

Hillary is campaigning. Showing how the rethugs are unable to govern and their obsession with the War on Women the GOP will ever stop.

______________

This latest poll should make the rest of your week, teabaggers.

Anybody see Cruz’s name up there?

Oh, here’s Cruz’s name. He polls just as well as “Someone else”.

Benghazi! emails! The scandals!

**harrybarracuda** · 18-03-2015, 09:28 PM

It seems the wanky republitards are trying their usual blackmailing tactics again instead of getting the job done.

No wonder the US public thinks they are so shit.

**Boon Mee** · 20-03-2015, 05:36 AM

Hillary Clinton to Camp Counselors: I Want to Solve America's "Fun Deficit" With Government Funded Adult "Fun Camps," For Which You Would Be Paid to be Counselers At, Naturally...

Does this old bag have creeping dementia or what?

**Boon Mee** · 21-03-2015, 06:05 AM

She reminds us of Miss Piggy...

Too many great lines in this Vid:

“As a Clinton, foreign governments donate to her.”

“She emails often, and when she does, the public can’t see it.”

“Stay secretive, my friend”

All funny, because they’re true.

**misskit** · 21-03-2015, 06:21 AM

^ Maybe she has an account at unseen.com so she can stay secretive, my friend.

**Boon Mee** · 21-03-2015, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

^ Maybe she has an account at unseen.com so she can stay secretive, my friend.

Dunno, but a public figure such as Clinton is supposed to sign all kinds of disclosure documents and not have alternative, private servers.

btw, it's unseen.is

**robuzo** · 21-03-2015, 11:40 AM

Reminder of who lit the fuse of the bomb that was allowed to go off during the nightmare that was the Bush II presidency:
The Clintons and the Fed Are Gasping Over the April Issue of Harper?s
Hillary Clinton just can’t catch a break. As her self-inflicted imbroglio over erasing 30,000 emails involving her time as Secretary of State continues to command press attention, the April issue of Harper’s Magazine is focusing gasp-worthy attention on the “loan-sharking” business that Bill Clinton, as President, assisted in transforming into the too-big-to-fail Citigroup that played a leading role in bringing the country to the brink of financial collapse in 2008.

Janet Yellen’s Fed can’t be too happy either about the revelations. The Fed just gave Citigroup a clean bill of health last week under its so-called rigorous stress tests and is allowing the bank to spend like a drunken sailor, raising its dividend 400 percent with permission to buy back as much as $7.8 billion of its own stock. The Fed’s qualitative portion of the stress test is said to look at both risk controls and the internal culture of the bank. Citigroup remains under multiple criminal investigations for money laundering and involvement in rigging currency markets. Apparently, in the Fed’s eyes, this is now de rigueur on Wall Street.

Harper’s six-page article jolts the reader with nugget after nugget unearthed from Citigroup’s unseemly history – facts that both the Clintons and the Fed would no doubt prefer to stay buried. This epistle to greed and excess and regulatory hubris is written by Andrew Cockburn, Harper’s Washington Editor and a man well credentialed to do it justice. Cockburn and his wife, Leslie Cockburn, co-produced the documentary, American Casino, which provided an in-depth look at the players behind the 2008 financial collapse. Cockburn’s father, Claud Cockburn, was on the scene in 1929, covering the epic crash for the London Times. (His memoir of Black Thursday on Wall Street in 1929 can be read here.)

The Harper’s article is subtitled “The catastrophic incompetence of Citigroup,” obviously a tongue-in-cheek assessment since Cockburn meticulously documents the serial charges of crimes at Citigroup as a business model.

Cockburn traces the history of how Sandy Weill parlayed Commercial Credit through a series of mergers that, thanks to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act by President Clinton, culminated in the too-big-to-fail Citigroup. The banking behemoth replicated the exact model that brought on the 1929 crash and Great Depression by holding savings deposits while being allowed to gamble with the deposits in wild speculations on Wall Street.

The Glass-Steagall Act, which had successfully protected bank savings deposits from 1933 until its repeal by Clinton in 1999, had prevented FDIC insured institutions from merging with investment banks on Wall Street. Despite the ravaging effects of the 2008 crash, the Glass-Steagall Act has not been restored, although two bills were introduced in Congress to do just that: the Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2015 and the Elizabeth Warren inspired 21st Century Glass-Steagall Act.

Cockburn neatly captures where today’s Citigroup culture found its roots, writing:

“Weill had recently been eased out from Shearson Lehman/American Express, a financial conglomerate he had helped to build. Eager to get back in the game, he bought a Baltimore firm called Commercial Credit. In the view of Weill and his protégé, Jamie Dimon [now CEO at JPMorgan Chase], their new acquisition was in the beneficent business of supplying ‘consumer finance’ to ‘Main Street America.’ Their office receptionist, Alison Falls, thought otherwise. Overhearing their conversation at work one day, she called out, ‘Hey, guys, this is the loan- sharking business. Consumer finance is just a nice way to describe it.’

“Falls had it right. Commercial Credit made loans to poor people at predatory interest rates. Strapped to pay off their loans, borrowers were encouraged to refinance, with added fees each time. Gail Kubiniec, who was then an assistant sales manager at the company’s branch office in Tonawanda, New York, remembers that the basic aim was to lend money to ‘people uneducated about credit. You could take a five-hundred-dollar loan and pack it with extra items like life insurance—that was very lucrative. Then you could roll it over with more extra items, then reroll the new loan, and the borrower would go on paying and paying and paying.’ ”

Cockburn prints an excerpt from an affidavit that Kubiniec eventually filed with the Federal Trade Commission in 2001 about the practices of Commercial Credit, which had by then changed its name to CitiFinancial:

“I and other employees would often determine how much insurance could be sold to a borrower based on the borrower’s occupation, race, age, and education level. If someone appeared uneducated, inarticulate, was a minority, or was particularly old or young, I would try to include all the coverages CitiFinancial offered. The more gullible the consumer appeared, the more coverages I would try to include in the loan.”

If Kubiniec’s story has a ring of familiarity, it’s likely because you read Alayne Fleischmann’s allegations against JPMorgan Chase concerning the subprime housing bust in Matt Taibbi’s investigative report in the November issue of Rolling Stone.

Other revelations are equally cringe-worthy. Cockburn writes that Irzen Octa, a Citibank credit card customer in Jakarta, Indonesia, “was beaten to death in 2011 by Citi’s collection agents when he visited a bank branch to discuss his account.”

Cockburn also details how Citigroup this past December succeeded in sneaking a rule to keep trillions of dollars in derivatives held by banks like itself on the books of their FDIC-insured depository bank rather than their investment banking unit – thus guaranteeing that the taxpayer is back on the hook for future derivative implosions. The language was inserted into a must-pass appropriations bill to keep the government running and succeeded in passage, effectively repealing a key provision of the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation.

Against that backdrop, consider this statement from Michael Greenberger, former Director of Trading and Markets for the Commodity Futures Trading Commission from 1997 to 1999, which appears in the Cockburns’ American Casino:

“On December 15, 2000, around 7 o’clock, Phil Gramm, Republican Senator of Texas, and Chair of the Senate Finance Committee, walked to the floor of the Senate and introduced a 262-page bill as a rider to the 11,000 page appropriation bill, which excluded from regulation the financial instruments that are probably most at the heart of the present meltdown. He not only excluded them from all Federal regulation, but he excluded them from State regulation as well, which is important because these instruments could be viewed as gambling instruments.”

When is enough ever going to be enough when it comes to Wall Street.

**koman** · 21-03-2015, 12:33 PM

^
That's a very good article. One of the best I've read in a long time. It touches on one of the incredibly bad decisions that were made in tampering with existing regulations.

Allowing the retail deposit taking banking sector to comingle with the investment banking sector went against tradition, good risk management practice and common sense.

Under proper regulation the gambling with deposits would never have been allowed.

Funny how little attention has been paid to the role of AIG in the 2008 financial (liquidity) meltdown, but in fact they were the link that broke, and brought the whole house down....again because of poor regulation and wild risk taking with default swaps.

**S Landreth** · 21-03-2015, 04:43 PM

Just a reminder, for you teabaggers,.......

Originally Posted by S Landreth

This latest poll should make the rest of your week, teabaggers.

Anybody see Cruz’s name up there?

Oh, here’s Cruz’s name. He polls just as well as “Someone else”.

Benghazi! emails! The scandals!

I was reading a rightwing website shortly after the poll above broke and they/some were at it again as they were right before Obama won the last election,……….. “I don’t believe these polls” or,…..

This poll is garbage.

This is how 538 rates the CNN/ORC polls

**thaimeme** · 21-03-2015, 04:52 PM

What a piss-poor unworthy selection of candidates the American public has every four years - same old cycle of establishment goons.

**bsnub** · 21-03-2015, 05:02 PM

^ Yes it is really just a joke..

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