Thread: Is World Headed For Overpopulation?

Originally Posted by Milkman

Here is an article on a proposal out of Canada (that surely won't be followed nor implemented) advocating:

1 child per couple WORLDWIDE.

A good idea IMO, as the world head toward 7 billion sooner, and 8 billion even sooner and 9 billion in even a shorter amount of time.

The time line is speeding up.

Here is the link. I'll try to copy & pasts but it won't allow me to:

The real inconvenient truth

yep,
Do you remember live aid and world aid, let all the poor countries off with their debt.

Well i saw a programme made 5 years after live aid and all the money did was increase the population of africa, and then all the problems started again and we give and get asked for more money to help these poor people again and again, with no progress made.

We were a poor nation and a disgrace 120 years ago, but thanks to my dad, grandad, great grandad etc, with their effort and sacrifice my life in the uk is ok.
And all done without charity from other countries.

Now all that work and sacrifice we are asked to give a lot of that away, to keep everybody alive and give them a better standard of living.

Nature has a way of keeping species in tact, and we keep changing that.
The reason people had lots of kids in the past was because of a high infant mortality rate, now we are keeping as many as possible alive and this leads to overpopulation.

The countries with major population problems, africa, india, china etc,
I only see china addressing the problem with any real effort.

It is up to the seperate countries to evolve and prosper, if they can not then they wither and die. Harsh it may sound but that is nature.

I have just finished watching all 7 episodes,
thanks for the time and effort.

It makes me wonder, back in the 70's the uk was self sufficient now we are not,
why, because of too much immigration to uphold growth along with indiginous growth,

If supposidly a nation as educated as we are supposed to be, coupled with our technology, is an importer of energy, with diminishing resouces, what hope for the lesser nations.

This also adds to my suspicions about global warming being overblown to exonerate our great leaders lying to us about energy security, as we run out we will be told we have to conserve the energy because of climate change.

Easy really.

We were self sufficient because of something called north sea oil you idiot. As it h s now almost run out and we are not allowed to burn immigrants as fuel, i suppose we will just have to stop eating.

I have also looked through all of the videos. They are well worth it.

Growth is not sustainable, especially not population growth.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Yes not a bad idea from the Canadians, in the meantime we should set up immigration officers at all European borders with only one question to new asylum seekers and immigrants-

Canada or Alaska Sir ?

Such big empty wide spaces over there

NOOOOOOO! Many of the bleeders apparently are settled in the Midwest and they immediately pick up digs (after their welfare runs out) and move to Vancouver (for the weather and socialist policies) or TO (for money and scams). They have broods of kids. More welfare! They plunked 5,000 Bhutanese in the middle of a Vancouver suburb because the geography was like home and some Nepalese were in the next suburb. 5555555 Same terrain? Nepalese neighbours? 555555
Milkie, I saw that Canuck chick, another weirdo. Few Canadians have more than one kid -- it's the immigrants who just keep breeding. How about enforcing sterilisation before they immigrate? 555
Good point on Africa. More money and more babies. Now Africa wants the "rich" West to compensate them for global warming. FO. "Biafra" will demand money for their famines decades ago. Become self-sufficient, improvise when the climate changes as it has done for centuries. I studied the Anasazi in CO and NM -- gee, the rain stopped in the 1100s and they packed up and moved to another locale. Climate change is a fact of life.

Holy mackerel Milk, I just finished watching them all, this should be forced pen-sum for everybody over 15 years old at least once a year, and politicians should look at it every week and pass examinations whether they had understood the ramifications or not, I am real glad that I'm 51 years old now and have lived through the "party time" of constant growth, cause this party is soon over, I do not believe that the disaster of overpopulation/energy and food consumption can be stopped by choice now, when they realise/accept how bad the situation is it will be to late anyway, I feel a bit like a fool after having looked at that presentation I must be frank and admit that I never have given it that much thought in this way, I have foolish believed that our representatives had a reasonable handle on this stuff, and most importantly time enough to pull the emergency brake, but the most scary part of this presentation is the statements from supposed experts that advise our policy makers and the statements from policy makers themselves, because as the man says "it's not rocket science" and yet they still get it so disastrously wrong.

Christ all mighty! humanity is doomed if it's the same type of morons that are running things today.

I mean all we are hearing these days is about global warming, but that problem is going to take care of itself before we know it, what they should be shouting just as much about is stop fvucking fvucking, unless you drive "it" in, in an armoured vehicle. There should be a simultaneous conference and just as deadly serious, on more sex but less kids running alongside the climate conference in Copenhagen and all the money now promised to the developing nations should come with stringent demands on population growth.

I wonder how many 'tonnes' of dinosaurs the world managed to sustain before they died out?And whether the weight of the present worlds population is of the same order?

I will go with Lars on this one.
As long as fucking is more popular and fun than dying, we are going to have proplems..

Excellent milky. Facts and common sense should prevail over media hype.

For those who remain with their heads in the sand, there is another american alternative.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Famine, AIDS, and war will not reduce the increase of the population enough.

we can still hope in swine flu

I thought Chas had some brains.

Originally Posted by man with no head

There are no more 'wide open spaces' where people actually want to live

Simplistic view - there's plenty of desirable open land.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by man with no head

There are no more 'wide open spaces' where people actually want to live

Simplistic view - there's plenty of desirable open land.

Plenty of space for growing biofuel crops, wind turbines and solar panels.

Originally Posted by chassamui

We were self sufficient because of something called north sea oil you idiot. As it h s now almost run out and we are not allowed to burn immigrants as fuel, i suppose we will just have to stop eating.

Cheers, an idiot i may be.

self sufficiency does not just mean oil.

We had our own power systems, plenty of agriculture, oil and gas.
We import food we do not produce enough anymore, gas, oil we had enough at one time.

Did you realise we exported most of our oil, and it was not used for britain.

If we had not grown so big so fast and had to feed this growth frenzy, we would no dout still be SELF sufficient.

the whole crux of this debate is about sustaining growth in populace, and believe me at this rate we will run out of resources.

Answer me this,
Why is china buying great swathes of african land, why are british companies buying up land in the ukraine, saudi arabia buying up land in asia.?????

in my opinion it is maybe because they are preparing for food shortages in the near future.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by man with no head

There are no more 'wide open spaces' where people actually want to live

Simplistic view - there's plenty of desirable open land.

Plenty of space for growing biofuel crops, wind turbines and solar panels.

Plenty of space for that on non-agrarian and non-desirable land.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Plenty of space for growing biofuel crops, wind turbines and solar panels.

Sure, Africa, where they booted out the white farmers and then trashed the land. Lots of dusty wind there.

Water is an even bigger issue than space. If half (or more) of China weren't desert the masses wouldn't be quite so teeming.

Interesting pie chart:


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Originally Posted by meepho

I have just finished watching all 7 episodes, thanks for the time and effort.

There's actually 8 episodes. Here's the 8th.

Originally Posted by crippen

I wonder how many 'tonnes' of dinosaurs the world managed to sustain before they died out?And whether the weight of the present worlds population is of the same order?

Dino's did not build skyscrapers and massive highways to travel their arse on but.