Thread: Another US Embassy Under Siege

Originally Posted by Koojo

If your reference to 'nonsense' is to my post,

Any of the other 100 posts on the thread could have been the target for my poison tipped dart, but if you feel the cap fits "it's up you hansum man".

Some more of the Smart Diplomacy that is the hallmark of the Obama Administration:

Lying Ambassador Rice: Blames video, ‘embassy attacks not premeditated’; Libyan president disagrees.

What a clown show this has become.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Assad, Mubarak, Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein are all secular Islamic names that Al Qaeda wanted out, so regimes more sympathetic to theocracy could then emerge.

Incredible how the USA is acting as facilitator.

The US has long decided and embarked on a process of destabilization for the Middle East.
Stable or prosperous governments with a firm control of their populations (however they achieve that) are not in it's best interests in the coming years of declining oil production. They would prefer the entire region was a war torn shithole which they can control with outright force of arms and pillage at will.

^It does look that way sometimes, although if the main goal in Iraq was to kick over the hornets nest it's hard to see why they pissed away so much blood and treasure on it. The UK was happy enough to come along that ride, too- in fact, in the earliest stages the RAF took the lead.

Strange and seemingly obvious counter-productive policies, almost seem to be getting into "march of folly" territory.

Originally Posted by robuzo

almost seem to be getting into "march of folly" territory.

The US is simply following the path of their older European brothers, self destructing invading wars

the only reason Europe is not doing any more is because they can't afford it, all their money is going into welfare instead

if the US spent more on their welfare instead of military, they would run out of reasons for going to war

Originally Posted by robuzo

^It does look that way sometimes, although if the main goal in Iraq was to kick over the hornets nest it's hard to see why they pissed away so much blood and treasure on it. The UK was happy enough to come along that ride, too- in fact, in the earliest stages the RAF took the lead.

Strange and seemingly obvious counter-productive policies, almost seem to be getting into "march of folly" territory.

While the public spent, I think you will find the corporations like Halliburton made out like Bandits..

^ Well, a million guys in the army on minimum wage is a type of welfare.

Originally Posted by Norton

All nonsense (balderdash in Brit) to point out no matter who is President or how much security is in place, things like this are going to happen. Well planned attacks by radical Muslims or any other anti American bunch will succeed.

Yepp, so nothing to make a lot of fuzz about.
Just put it in the collateral damage column.

^
Norton's missing the point. Sure some attacks will succeed but in the case of our man in Libya, he wasn't even given the level of security detail that Valerie Jarrett, Obama's right hand gal gets.

Misplaced priorities or what?

Is it odd to anyone, that all this fuss is being generated by a rather lame movie, but there are no ongoing issues in these countries about the actual two major and many minor wars where actual muslims are being killed?

Originally Posted by Necron99

Is it odd to anyone, that all this fuss is being generated by a rather lame movie, but there are no ongoing issues in these countries about the actual two major and many minor wars where actual muslims are being killed?

Again, the movie was not the locus for these attacks. They were well pre-planned and that fact is well established. Even the Libyan Ambassador has stated as such.

Correction - it was the Libyan President who confirmed the attacks were not 'spontanious':

Libyan President: Attacks Pre-Planned By Al-Qaeda

Source

This should (hopefully) put a nail into the coffin:

No protest before Benghazi attack,
wounded Libyan guard says

Movie Mendacity: "There wasn’t a single ant outside,
at about 9:35 p.m.,as many as 125 armed men
descended on the compound from all directions."

And this:

Libyan reports shred White House claim that Benghazi
attack was spontaneous, driven by anti-Islam film

“The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was
a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control
is completely unfounded and preposterous,”
Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif.

So that's that...

^
It's hard to believe that so many people missed the clue that spontaneous protestors don't generally show up with machine guns, RPG's and set about killing everybody they can get their hands on. Usually a few hand painted signs and a bit of chanting does the job.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Incredible how the USA is acting as facilitator.

might be intentional actually, for all we know. They are playing a dangerous game, they better know what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Necron99

Is it odd to anyone, that all this fuss is being generated by a rather lame movie, but there are no ongoing issues in these countries about the actual two major and many minor wars where actual muslims are being killed?

Let me explain death to you. In these dirty little wars they are dieing as you know whats, (martyrs), so no problem. Death is a better journey than life.

Now calling Mohammad a bum pumper and a cock sucker are not even in the same realm as a bonified Jihad.

Rag-head 101 teaches that no pictures or images are allowed of the HMFIC, as that's sacrilegious and you can't pray to a false image. sounds like Christianity, but in the christian world we love lots of images and profits not $$$$, and saints and just about anything that appears as doable tomfoolery. (Anybody got a picture of Tammy Fae?)

I'm all for this stuff and a firm believer in tomfoolery. Now making movies is alright but to blaspheme the HMFIC is considered well for lack of another word, rude in raghead thinking.

Me, I think the wars are good for humanity,for bringing the heathens into the 21st century from say the 3rd. Exposure to the west, the movies, the language, the money world and the ladies...well it can't be all bad. A little smut never hurt noone they tell me.

Gee, a CNN reporter finds Amb Stevens diary while trundling thru the Benghazi Consulate area? WTF??? What did the terrorists get? What a joke this obama admin is.
CNN finds, returns journal belonging to late U.S. ambassador - CNN.com

^There was one unsourced, unverifed, report in a blog/rag called the Lebanon Post making these claims. There was never anything from any other source. Multiple sources, however, including video coverage with audio, show Libyan civilians pulling the Ambassador out of the building and rushing him to the hospital, where he was confirmed to have died from smoke inhalation.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

Still the first account tends to stir up lots more hatred and anger now doesn't it ?

Maybe, but it kinda makes me sad thinking that they had notice of the danger and didn't take the advice. These are the folks that ex-pats rely on when situations go pear shaped in foreign lands. Certainly the drama going on in US politics now is of little help and serves to vilify anyone within earshot.

Certainly not the best day in American foreign service, but not its worst or its last.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Certainly not the best day in American foreign service, but not its worst or its last.

Indeed, especially with Obama at the helm added and abetted by Hillary. The gang that can't do anything right. You might have heard about it by now but reading the exchanges between Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Philippe Reines, Hillary Clinton’s personal spokesman, and Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed focusing on the CNN discovery of Stevens diary. What a total fiasco.

Hillary Clinton Aide Tells Reporter To “Fuck Off” And “Have A Good Life”

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^There was one unsourced, unverifed, report in a blog/rag called the Lebanon Post making these claims. There was never anything from any other source. Multiple sources, however, including video coverage with audio, show Libyan civilians pulling the Ambassador out of the building and rushing him to the hospital, where he was confirmed to have died from smoke inhalation.

Do you think the obama admin would let out any info that Amb Stevens was sodomized and dragged through the streets? I do not.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

You might have heard about it by now but reading the exchanges between Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Philippe Reines, Hillary Clinton’s personal spokesman, and Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed focusing on the CNN discovery of Stevens diary. What a total fiasco.

Hillary Clinton Aide Tells Reporter To “Fuck Off” And “Have A Good Life”

Yep, I read the whole email exchange. I would expect potty mouth from press members but from govt officials like Reines? How utterly debasing to the govt.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Do you think the obama admin would let out any info that Amb Stevens was sodomized and dragged through the streets? I do not.

And do you think it would be able to be suppressed if it were true? I do not.
So CNN is the new wikileaks.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Do you think the obama admin would let out any info that Amb Stevens was sodomized and dragged through the streets? I do not.

And do you think it would be able to be suppressed if it were true? I do not.
So CNN is the new wikileaks.

'Bout time they did some honest, non-biased reporting for a change...