Paul Ryan Thread

[Panty Hamster]

Pennsylvania judge says Voter ID required at Pa polls.

Those wingnut Pa Dems gotta be shitty pissed about that. What a sorry lot. All those hayseed Democrats either have a driver's license or a parole card.

Paul Ryan runs circles around Joe the mouth Biden.

[Humbert]

...dead people voting, voting multiple times, stuffing the ballot box and any other means of cheating to put the Indonesian Imbecile in place for another 4 years.

What a red herring. No evidence that there has ever been any widespread voter fraud. Just a tactic to keep minorities from going to the polls and voting Democratic.

[MrG]

Here's Pauly's philosophical muse, Ayn Rand, on Johnney Carson. Poor video but well worth the watch. Wonder how well he's going to run away from a Russian athiest as his political/economic inspiration. Talk about your social Darwinist

[Minnie Maugham]

[quote=FailSafe;2188390]

The GOP has always been the white man's party in the US- if Obama wins re-election it will be primarily through minority votes.

Oh, really? Emancipation of the blacks? Civil Rights Act? I would bet you believe Abe Lincoln was a democrat...And...
In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.
[See http://www.congresslink.org/civil/essay.html and http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum...03.04.x.html.]

If his medicare changes are ever enacted, would the vouchers issued for insurance be issued to people living outside the U.S. and be used to buy health insurance in a foreign country? I'm 59, so it would not apply to me but it would be nice to get some medicare benefits to be used outside the U.S. I'm not counting on it.

Great question. I reckon you still pay US taxes and have the right to vote in your home state. Contact your Congressperson/senator and find out.

Check out one of the (many) lines waiting to sign up for the deferred action plan that started today in the states.

You sure that ain't an unemployment line?

[bsnub]

Can’t wait till he visits Florida to explain his plan.

November 7th 2012 no one will give a flying fvck about Ryan any longer.

The top quote from that vid and it is a good one...

"Why is Paul Ryan a fiscal conservative?

Since he's been in office (1999) he's voted for nearly 2/3 of the debt that has taken us from surplus to fiscal calamity.

Bush tax cuts, continuance of tax cuts, War in Iraq, War in Afghanistan, Medicare Part D, TARP, every Pentagon slush fund, the bailout.."

[FailSafe]

^^^

I meant in recent years, but, to be fair, Lincoln would have kept slavery if it meant preserving the Union (which is in his writings) and no president signed more civil rights legislation than LBJ.

[Boon Mee]

Heh...the times they are a-changing there Libs. Get used to it!

Why The Screwed Generation Is Turning To Paul Ryan.

“While Democrats attack Ryan’s Medicare plan as ‘radical’ and portray him as pushing granny off the cliff, young people don’t seem to be buying this caricature. Or maybe ‘radical’ is what they want.”

Like a steamroller over the failed policies of the Obama regime.

[Humbert]

Its hilarious to watch Romney desparately trying to steal back the spotlight. Now the campaign is about Ryan ideas, not Romneys - of course it would help if he actually had an idea that he stuck to for more than five minutes.

[Boon Mee]

Its hilarious to watch Romney desparately trying to steal back the spotlight. Now the campaign is about Ryan ideas, not Romneys - of course it would help if he actually had an idea that he stuck to for more than five minutes.

Won't matter in the end if Ryan hauls Romney into the WH on his coat tails.

[robuzo]

Paul Ryan Asked for Stimulus Cash, Then Lied About Doing So
World's fittest man Paul Ryan is in a bit of ideological trouble today after it was revealed that the congressman lied about requesting a stimulus package. Just yesterday Ryan told ABC's Cincinatti affiliate:

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

And a couple of years ago he said this:

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

Only problem is that he totally did request stimulus money, just one year earlier:

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

After getting called out as a hypocrite and liar, Ryan fessed up, sort of.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that."

But he couldn't end it without getting one last childish dig in at President Obama.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

I think what Ryan meant to say was: "I used the stimulus until it was no longer politically advantageous for me, and then I shit all over it."

Of course, this is all in keeping with Ryan's longstanding tradition of making things up or exaggerating them in order to enhance his reputation.

[robuzo]

Well, whaddya know, found something positive to say about Ryan:
I Was Wrong: Paul Ryan Has Been 'Brave'—About Cuba - James Fallows - The Atlantic
Ryan has voted repeatedly in the House to overturn the most plainly idiotic* part of current U.S. foreign policy, the maintenance of an embargo on Cuba.
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Good for him. Gonna have some splainin' to do when he gets to Flawda, although I think some of the younger generation of Cubans (not to mention other Latinos) favor a sane Cuba policy.

[S Landreth]

Gonna have some splainin' to do when he gets to Flawda

I don’t think he’s going that far south this Saturday when he visits. He’s gonna stay in the upper central (blue haired rednecks) region I believe. The Villages,…over 60% voted for the Rethug in the last presidential election.

he'll be among friends

[S Landreth]

Gonna have some splainin' to do when he gets to Flawda

I don’t think he’s going that far south this Saturday when he visits. He’s gonna stay in the upper central (blue haired rednecks) region I believe. The Villages,…over 60% voted for the Rethug in the last presidential election.

he'll be among friends

More about the friendly site (The Villages) that Ryan will be visiting today in Florida: Paul Ryan Set to Appear With Mom at World’s Largest Retirement Community, Defend Medicare Plan - ABC News

The retirement location itself made a hefty corporate donation to the main super PAC supporting Mitt Romney’s presidential bid. The Villages of Lake Sumter, Inc., the Florida retirement community that includes property development, golf and other recreational activities, donated $250,000 to Restore Our Future last June. Five individual residents donated a total of over $678,000 to the group, which also received money from utility, communications, commercial property, and investment companies located in The Villages, Fla.


I would guess that the security will be high and nothing like this will happen,….

Or this,………

And of course this will not happen again because he’s not going into small venues as this any longer being the rethugs VP pick. 12 people had to be removed.

[attaboy]

From watching the video I learned that union thugs never retire. Provide a union thug with free transportation and a free sack lunch and he will protest anything he's told to protest. Point them in a direction and turn their hatred loose.

[Boon Mee]

Paul Ryan says seniors have nothing to worry about when it comes to Medicare and Social Security if there's a Republican in the White House. Don't believe the GOP vice presidential candidate? Then just ask his 78-year-old mother.

Heh...don't think the Democrats saw this coming!

[slackula]

Don't believe the GOP vice presidential candidate? Then just ask his 78-year-old mother.

I'm sorry, let me get this straight.

You are seriously saying that the statements of the VP nominee should be taken at face value because his 78 yo mother says so? Seriously?

Wow.

[slackula]

How long before they go after Paul Ryan’s mom? “You know it’s going to happen.” Indeed...

You are conceding then that they trotted her out as bait in the hope that they can play the victim again then?

Anyway, it's funny watching Paul Ryan try to portray himself as a staunch defender of America's most socialist program..

[Boon Mee]

How long before they go after Paul Ryan’s mom? “You know it’s going to happen.” Indeed...

You are conceding then that they trotted her out as bait in the hope that they can play the victim again then?

Nope

He 'trotted' her out to frame his case for reform in terms of family values (gasp! not those!)—in terms of his own obligation to protect Medicare as it is today for his mother, and to reform it in his generation so that his children will benefit from a social safety net and a debt-free America

[Minnie Maugham]

^^^

I meant in recent years, but, to be fair, Lincoln would have kept slavery if it meant preserving the Union (which is in his writings) and no president signed more civil rights legislation than LBJ.

Ture, FS. Despite 5 of my family fighting & dying for that stupid git Lincoln, I'll always love Robert E Lee. As for LBJ and the Civil Rights acts, erm, I think it was the GOP that forced him, no? How many Dems voted against them in Congress? (I'm too lazy to look it up.)

[S Landreth]

Birds of a feather (Akin and Ryan)

Yesterday, ThinkProgress reported that Rep. Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin (R-MO) and GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan both cosponsored the bill that introduced America to the despicable term “forcible rape.” As it turns out, this may only be the second most sweeping attack on reproductive freedom that both men partnered on. Ryan and Akin also cosponsored a federal personhood bill, the Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009, which declares that a fertilized egg is entitled to the exact same legal rights as a human being:


Love those women and their votes, the GOPs War on Women: Paul Ryan and Todd Akin Partnered On Radical 'Personhood' Bill Outlawing Abortion And Many Birth Control Pills

According to the latest nbc news/wall street journal poll, president Obama leads Dim Mitt among women voters by 15 points

That 15 point lead should grow by the time the election comes: Romney-Ryan could struggle with women voters - Video on NBCNews.com

[barbaro]

Pennsylvania judge says Voter ID required at Pa polls.

Shock, shock.

Actually asking people who vote to show who they really are.

Better be the case.

Lots of fraud in elections.

Anybody who shows up to vote should have TWO valid forms of I.D.

[Panty Hamster]

Holder and the negro democrats won't be happy. Reach Around will likewise be unhappy.

All their dead uncles won't apply. They can go deep-throat a goat. Go.Washingtin will sigh a deep breath of relief. Mutual Investers fund will tank. Imbeciles.

[MrG]

Lots of fraud in elections.

If you're serious, please cite an example of any significant voter fraud in the US.

Last I read there had been something like 34 cases in the past decade, nationwide, and none of those was fraud at the polling place.

Claiming voter fraud when there is none is, well, a kind of fraud.

[Minnie Maugham]

Pennsylvania judge says Voter ID required at Pa polls.

Anybody who shows up to vote should have TWO valid forms of I.D.

Ya, erm, I read they can vote if they show up with a utility bill; didn't say if it had to be for a VA residence...

"Until the law was changed this year, voters had to present a voter registration card, Social Security card, driver’s license, government-issued identification or photo ID from a private workplace. The new law expands that list to also include utility bills, paychecks, bank statements, government checks or a current Virginia college ID."
Justice Department upholds Va. voter ID law, governor says - Virginia Politics - The Washington Post

Lots of fraud in elections.

If you're serious, please cite an example of any significant voter fraud in the US.

OK, weren't y'all claiming voter fraud in the Florida count for Bush/Gore?
ACORN sure collected alot of Mickey/Minnie Mouses, cats, dogs, and dead folks, no?

More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light - WSJ.com

[robuzo]

Lots of fraud in elections.

If you're serious, please cite an example of any significant voter fraud in the US.

Last I read there had been something like 34 cases in the past decade, nationwide, and none of those was fraud at the polling place.

Claiming voter fraud when there is none is, well, a kind of fraud.

I recall a fraudulent 2000 Supreme Court decision, and quite a bit of fraudulent removal from the lists of eligible voters prior to that decision.