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    THE TELLTALE SIGNS OF A FALSE FLAG EVENT


    There are some key characteristics that can be indicative of a false flag event. The catalyst is typically an explosive, spectacular event, which is followed by immediate media saturation. Of course this is inevitable in any tragic scenario and simply the nature of news, but there are a few warning signs of a plotted false flag. If the major news outlets are all in sync, reporting on the event without thoroughly vetting the information available, then there is cause for concern. Within a relatively short period of time a scapegoat will be named, establishing an enemy with little to no trial or investigation into other possibilities. The case will be closed, government action will ensue, and, on a much more subversive level, someone will reap profit. And often those who profit are large corporations or military contractors that make exorbitant revenue through war and conflict.
    These scenarios work best when the stakes are high. The greater the shock value, the less likely people are to question the authenticity of the event. If someone dares to question the mainstream’s sanctioned culprit in a tragedy, they’re labelled crazy, insensitive or unpatriotic. Skeptics are denounced as pacifists who are unsupportive of their country in a time of attack. Those who do succumb to the hysteria, perpetuate a groupthink that can be easily persuaded to allow government to restrict liberties and implement authoritarian laws. Examples of this can be seen throughout history and as recently as within the past few decades.
    https://www.gaia.com/article/do-you-...lse-flag-event


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    THE TELLTALE SIGNS OF A FALSE FLAG EVENT


    https://www.gaia.com/article/do-you-...lse-flag-event
    Exactly. And 9/11 even spawned The Patriot Act.

    Although I'm decidedly on the conspiracy side of this, and I've mentioned this before, I do understand the pro-official version people. The enormity of what the conspiracy implies/states is very difficult to accept.

    But psychopaths do exist. People who are incapable of feeling guilt and don't bat an eyelid at mass murder.
    If it is accepted that psychopathy is real, and that it is often undetected, then it must be accepted that there may be psychopaths amongst those that wield power.
    Actually, there may be a bigger proportion of psychopaths amongst the powerful as opposed to the general population. They rose through the ranks because they have no guilt, no remorse, and are heartless and ruthless.
    Last edited by Maanaam; 12-01-2019 at 01:24 PM.

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    THE TELLTALE SIGNS OF A TIN FOIL HAT WHACKJOB

    Every time there is a major disaster or terrorist event, they start squealing about how it is a "False Flag" and rush to their computers to listen and wank to Alex Jones and other demented asswipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    THE TELLTALE SIGNS OF A TIN FOIL HAT WHACKJOB

    Every time there is a major disaster or terrorist event, they start squealing about how it is a "False Flag" and rush to their computers to listen and wank to Alex Jones and other demented asswipes.
    I've not heard of any false flag conspiracies for other terrorist attacks, and I would need to have some pretty compelling evidence to entertain any such conspiracies.
    So, your assertion seems to be hollow and made up.
    Besides, I think you know that the only people on this forum that listen to Alex Jones are the very same people who applaud the Patriot Act and the "official version" of 9/11.

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    Sometimes when people get wind of something momentous being planned, all they need to do is stand aside and do little.....then bet on the outcome.

    I think that this may have been what happened on 9/11. Various people shorted the market and made a lot of money after having heard that attacks by air were imminent. They had been reported by intelligence agencies as being in the terrorist pipeline.

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    Signs to look for

    1. The major news outlets are all in sync, - They were

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    hort period of time a scapegoat will be named. - Bin Laden

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    Establishing an enemy with little to no trial or investigation into other possibilities. - Saddam

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    The case will be closed, government action will ensue, - War with Iraq

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    omeone will reap profit. - Take your pick.

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    The greater the shock value, the less likely people are to question the authenticity of the event. - Hows about hijacking 4 planes and suicidally fly them into government buildings? Nah, now that really is beyond belief.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    I've not heard of any false flag conspiracies for other terrorist attacks, and I would need to have some pretty compelling evidence to entertain any such conspiracies.
    There have been many false flag operations undertaken over the years. And would you believe that America is the biggest partaker?

    (31) Similarly, the U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from the defense secretary – as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war. Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime, that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil … not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction (despite previous “lone wolf” claims, many U.S. government officials now say that 9/11 was state-sponsored terror; but Iraq was not the state which backed the hijackers).
    https://washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/...g-attacks.html
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    the only conspiracy theory here is about idiots like Harry to swallow verbatim that Iraq had WMDs and a plane hit the Pentagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    3. Establishing an enemy with little to no trial or investigation into other possibilities. - Saddam

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    The case will be closed, government action will ensue, - War with Iraq

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    omeone will reap profit. - Take your pick.
    In case you have forgotten, Bush's (fake) premise for going into Iraq was WMDs, not 9/11.

    But, you know, just keep making shit up, it's what keeps this whackjob thread alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Sometimes when people get wind of something momentous being planned, all they need to do is stand aside and do little.....then bet on the outcome.


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    You forgot all the Joooos took the day off as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    There have been many false flag operations undertaken over the years.
    I'm sure there have been, but not the "every terrorist attack" of Harry's accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    I'm sure there have been, but not the "every terrorist attack" of Harry's accusation.
    Come off it, the whackjobs are out as soon as there is any attack.

    Boston, Florida Nightclub, Vegas Shooting, the tin foil hats are on and they are squealing like schoolgirls that "it's the gub'mint wot done it".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You forgot all the Joooos took the day off as well.
    Congratulations Harry you got that right. https://ehpg.wordpress.com/israel-did-911/


    Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
    Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

    "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.
    As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.
    Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and the actual sender of the original message.
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Come off it, the whackjobs are out as soon as there is any attack.

    Boston, Florida Nightclub, Vegas Shooting, the tin foil hats are on and they are squealing like schoolgirls that "it's the gub'mint wot done it".

    Oh, yeah. for sure. No doubt. There's whackjobs on all levels of the political spectrum.
    I thought you were suggesting that those of us on this thread are also people who see false flags in everything. I am sure I do not, and I am fairly sure the others here do not.
    For me, 9/11 is a conspiracy, but I don't hold any other conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    What became of that investigation?
    Reminds me too of the van full of Israelis caught and released on the day.

    https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    So an Israeli firm got a threat of a terrorist attack that didn't say where or when?

    I would imagine they get those almost fucking daily you dumb shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    I don't hold any other conspiracy theories.
    I don't either even though there are many. The thing about 9/11 is that the evidence is staring you in the face. There's too much evidence to say it was not an inside job.
    I suppose that in about 70 years the truth will come out but no action will be taken as all the perpetrators will be dead. Somewhat similar to Pearl Harbour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So an Israeli firm got a threat of a terrorist attack that didn't say where or when?
    So the 5 dancing Israeli, Mossad agents, set up a camera and filmed the exact moments the towers were attacked and knew nothing of the time or day of the event beforehand? Wasn't that lucky for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The thing about 9/11 is that the evidence is staring you in the face. There's too much evidence to say it was not an inside job.
    I would say there's too much evidence for anyone to not seriously consider an inside job. But then, as I've said, the idea is very very uncomfortable for many.
    Myself, I'm practically convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    So the 5 dancing Israeli, Mossad agents, set up a camera and filmed the exact moments the towers were attacked and knew nothing of the time or day of the event beforehand? Wasn't that lucky for them?
    Fucking hell you are a classic tin foil hat whackjob if you believe that shit.

    But at least you have the balls to blame it on the Joos. Can't even get pseudopussy to do that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fucking hell you are a classic tin foil hat whackjob if you believe that shit.
    Are you sayin that the 5 Mossad agents who were arrested after being seen filming the attacks on 9/11 never existed. What actually is your take on it then? Honestly. Educate me. You never come up with any other explanation other that everyone's a 'whackjob'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    inside job
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    Mossad agents
    I is confused - they were inside the building filming ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I is confused - they were inside the building filming ?
    Along with Harry you now take the piss?

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