That fool LD posted that crap, the retard.
He's off on another thread, compulsively obsessed with spreadsing his shit everywhere.
You shouldn't encourage him , ya daft idiot.
That fool LD posted that crap, the retard.
He's off on another thread, compulsively obsessed with spreadsing his shit everywhere.
You shouldn't encourage him , ya daft idiot.
But YOU already encouraged me, you retard....by quoting it "before I could edit it".
Crazy as a loon, in'he?
Mentos and coke........
"But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.
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Stop sullying the thread man
Stop insulting our intelligence, man
Are you bi-polar or just got MPD?
the real loons are the American idiots who still believe in the "official" version promoted by the Bush team
the same team who got caught lying about Iraq and Saddam WMDs
ENT and Albert still haven't told us what their alternative theory IS in full.
Or what they think happened to the passengers and crew in the jet which would have crashed into the Pentagon.
Or how so much plane debris actually did make it's way into the Pentagon.
Albert hasn't said anything of note or tried to make rational comment. He just posts links and makes vague comments.
ENT has no sense of proportion at all. In fact, no sense at all.
The fire department arrived at the Pentagon before the bomb and secondary explosion occurred there on 9/11
When did Fort Meyer Fire Department (FMFD) Unit 161, and Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority (MWAA) Unit 331, arrive at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, and why does it matter?
National Airport's aircraft rescue firefighters (ARFF) foam units "knocked down the bulk of the fire in the first seven minutes after their arrival," said Captain Michael Defina, who was the shift commander that day at Reagon National Airport (National Fire Protection Association Journal, November 1, 2001).
A strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense, who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a 'missile'.
Gen. Larry Arnold, revealed that he ordered one of his jets to fly down low over the Pentagon shortly after the attack that morning, and that his pilot reported back that there was no evidence that a plane had hit the building.
Publicly available photos support these statements by Jamie McIntyre, Ed Plaugher, Karen Kwiatkowski, and Barbara Honegger.
What Really Happened on September 11 at the Pentagon
Let's contruct a timeline of events at the Pentagon, and see if it tells us anything.
9:29 - Flight 77 is at 7000 feet, 38 miles west of the Pentagon (9/11 Commission Report, p9).
9:32 - Bombs cited in Barbara Honegger's two-hour, under-oath, videotaped interview/testimony of key Pentagon eyewitness April Gallop.
9:xx - "Captain Dennis Gilroy and his team were already on station at the Pentagon when Flight #77 slammed into it." (Arlington County After-Action Report, Annex pages A-4 and A-5).
9:xx - Firefighter Alan Wallace hears "the Boeing 757's screaming engines" and yells "Runnnnn!" to "firefighter Mark Skipper."
9:37:46 - Flight 77 traveling at 530 mph hits the Pentagon (9/11 Commission Report, p10).
9:38 - FMFD Unit 161 is on fire at the Pentagon (Arlington County After-Action Report, Annex pages A-4 and A-5).
9:40 - FAA grounds all flights at U.S. airports (FOX Facts, May 3, 2006).
9:xx - Captain Defina, shift commander that day at National, arrives at Pentagon "two to three minutes" after seeing a plume of smoke.
9:41 - ACFD fire Truck 105 arrives at the Pentagon (Arlington County After-Action Report, Appendix 1).
9:41 - ACFD Battalion Chief Cornwell arrives and assumes Incident Command (Arlington County After-Action Report, Appendix 1).
9:41 - Command established (9/11 Commission Report, p314).
9:xx - National's Aircraft Rescue Firefighters (ARFF) crews "knocked down the bulk of the fire in the first seven minutes after their arrival".
9:48 - ACFD Assistant Chief Schwartz arrives and assumes Incident Command (Arlington County After-Action Report, Appendix 1).
9:55 - Incident commander orders evacuation of impacted areas (9/11 Commission Report, p315).
9:57 - A partial collapse occurs (9/11 Commission Report, p314).
10:15 - Incident commander orders full evacuation (9/11 Commission Report, p315).
Why Was FMFD Unit 161 at the Pentagon Before the Crash of 'Flight 77'?
This report refers to a supposed airliner that crashed into the Pentagon, a theory only, as no witness saw the impact!
So, the first and second explosions at the Pentagon were witnessed by the fire department!!
“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? John 10:34.
jesus, how dumb are you ? let me guess, American. Do you absolutely need to have some kind of explanation for everything in your unsecured little world ? dummies like you are the reason why the US government is treating their citizens like cattle.Originally Posted by Latindancer
actually there is a witness, a security video recording from the parking lot, but strangely they are not releasing the full video, only some frames, and still from those frames of the explosion, it's clearly not a plane. It's a missile.Originally Posted by ENT
Oh dear. I think I just realized why Butterfly is one of the 4 most vilified members of Teakdoor. Now we just have to get Smeg and Socal in here and you-all can have a nice cosy tete-a-tete.
No witnesses saw the actual impact. But there were many people who saw a passenger jet flying low towards and almost to the Pentagon. So where did it go ? And what happened to the passengers/crew ? And how did all that debris, including very large engine parts, get inside the Pentagon ? Did they employ the magician David Copperfield to somehow sneak it into there ?
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^ You show some disturbing psychopathic traits the way you round on perceived scapegoats.
This debris photograph of the engine rotor, if the evidence was not planted, is consistent with a small jet aircraft such as the Navy S-3B, the F-15, the F-16 or the F-18; definitely not from a Boeing 757-223. One witness that reported seeing a 8-10 seat passenger plane, others reported a small rear-engined jet, which would be consistent with the Navy T-39 Sabreliner.
Pentagon Plane Rotor - 9-11 Review
There were no passengers or crew, as there was no airliner involved.
Ok....what about the list of people and crew who were SUPPOSED to be on it ?
With so many aircraft experts in the USA and with these PUBLICLY listed photos, it stands to reason that there would be quite a few CREDIBLE experts pointing out the very obvious. Only there aren't, and there are only cretins like you and your 2 dumb friends here, posting stupidity on forums.
actually one "officially" did, an old man in the parking lot, he died 3 months later, nobody was listening to him in the massive hysteria that followed 911, his death could have been really natural for all we know.Originally Posted by Latindancer
a few other witnessed did also, but as everything with the US government, there is never a follow up when the witness don't collaborate the official government version
a lot of people see a lot of things, including flying saucers, UFO and fairies. In an event like 911, all kind of people are going to see a lot of things. Witness accounts are very unreliable, even for the simplest thing.Originally Posted by Latindancer
how about "we don't know because we weren't invited to the Pentagon party" ? why do you need to have an "explanation" for everything that happens in this world ? why do you think you even need an explanation or deserve an explanation ? you don't deserve the truth because the US government think it's a private matter and the public should be kept in the dark. Perfectly acceptable explanation for me in that regard.Originally Posted by Latindancer
what we do know is that the "official" story is full of holes, like a good hollywood action movie
yeah, what about the tooth fairy who was on board ? and the space aliens on that flight ? where are they ?Originally Posted by Latindancer
I can't reason with irrational people.
^ irony would be lost on you surely, above all when your reasons are based on beliefs
^^You can't reason at all because you're a normaloid who only believes official government crap.
More eye-witness accounts.
"But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.
Good observation - this is always the same kind of people clinging to their tin foil hats:
Let's face it, it comes as absolutely no surprise that Butterfly (or the remaining tools) are part of the "enlightened" who know all about the "government secrets" -- it's always the same devoid-of-life trolls, cliging on to obscure conspiracy theories, in hopes of giving their entirely meaningless lives some semblance of purpose and "importance".
At the end of the day, nothing really new under the sun, is there:
H.L. Mencken pretty much sums it up, don't you think?“The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts. He ascribes all his failure to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy.”
-H. L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun, June 15, 1936
^ quite rich coming from you Quack Quack
we don't claim to know what the government did or knowing all their dirty secrets, we just call the attention to their inconsistencies for their official story
ANOTHER dud link from ENT. Do you actually WATCH or LISTEN to the videos you post, stupid ?
I watched all of that 8 minute video, and no-one has said anything to further your case.
Don't waste my fvcking time, you cretin.
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