Results 1 to 25 of 174

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    I am in Jail
    stroller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    12-03-2019 @ 09:53 AM
    Location
    out of range
    Posts
    23,025
    B...but Saddam attacked the US on 9/11 and was on the brinck of launching his nucelar WMDs, how can the Iraq invasion be seen as anything negative? It's the fault of the commie traitors and liberal media that Bush hasn't succeeded!

    I am afraid they'll learn NOTHING!

  2. #2
    I am in Jail
    Mr Earl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Last Online
    23-08-2021 @ 06:47 PM
    Location
    In the Jungle of Love
    Posts
    14,771
    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    B...but Saddam attacked the US on 9/11 and was on the brinck of launching his nucelar WMDs, how can the Iraq invasion be seen as anything negative? It's the fault of the commie traitors and liberal media that Bush hasn't succeeded!

    I am afraid they'll learn NOTHING!

    Your failure to acknowledge the threat of islamic extremism colors your entire perspective.
    The brutal and painful facts that islamic extremism exists and threatens everyone are pretty evident. You have to be drunk, stoned, stupid, or painfully obtuse not to see the evidence which manifests itself every day.

    The media lost the Vietnam war, things have changed since then. So don't go counting your chickens just yet!

  3. #3
    Thailand Expat Boon Mee's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Online
    13-09-2019 @ 04:18 PM
    Location
    Samui
    Posts
    44,704
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    B...but Saddam attacked the US on 9/11 and was on the brinck of launching his nucelar WMDs, how can the Iraq invasion be seen as anything negative? It's the fault of the commie traitors and liberal media that Bush hasn't succeeded!

    I am afraid they'll learn NOTHING!

    Your failure to acknowledge the threat of islamic extremism colors your entire perspective.
    The brutal and painful facts that islamic extremism exists and threatens everyone are pretty evident. You have to be drunk, stoned, stupid, or painfully obtuse not to see the evidence which manifests itself every day.

    The media lost the Vietnam war, things have changed since then. So don't go counting your chickens just yet!
    Mr. Earl is the most articulate poster on this here forum.
    Excellent post, sir!
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

  4. #4
    Thailand Expat
    GooMaiRoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Last Online
    03-07-2023 @ 08:41 AM
    Posts
    1,139
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    B...but Saddam attacked the US on 9/11 and was on the brinck of launching his nucelar WMDs, how can the Iraq invasion be seen as anything negative? It's the fault of the commie traitors and liberal media that Bush hasn't succeeded!

    I am afraid they'll learn NOTHING!

    Your failure to acknowledge the threat of islamic extremism colors your entire perspective.
    The brutal and painful facts that islamic extremism exists and threatens everyone are pretty evident. You have to be drunk, stoned, stupid, or painfully obtuse not to see the evidence which manifests itself every day.

    The media lost the Vietnam war, things have changed since then. So don't go counting your chickens just yet!
    Mr. Earl is the most articulate poster on this here forum.
    Excellent post, sir!
    I have to agree that Mr. Earl is clever and articulate. However, many of his "brutal and painful facts" are not facts at all. The book "Dying To Win: The Logic Of Suicide Terrorism" studies the psyches of all suicide terrorists with knowable histories (over 400 of them). The conclusion: they are actually not very religious at all, in fact they're fairly Westernised. Though Middle Easterners, their common thread is not religious fanaticism, it is a feeling that Western countries (and India) are stepping on their turf. It's a scholarly study whose results even surprised it's author, Robert Pape. Bush supporters can be a clever but denial-ridden bunch.
    Last edited by GooMaiRoo; 26-01-2007 at 09:46 AM.

  5. #5
    I am in Jail
    Mr Earl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Last Online
    23-08-2021 @ 06:47 PM
    Location
    In the Jungle of Love
    Posts
    14,771
    Quote Originally Posted by floorpotato View Post
    . However, many of his "brutal and painful facts" are not facts at all.
    How is the fact that a fundamentalist islamic republic like Iran who supports and arms terrorists like hezbola to the tune of more than 100 million dollars a year not a painful and brutal fact? How can you say that such country like the Islamic republic of Iran not to be representative of Islam. No matter what they say in the book you've mentioned your argument defies logic for me.
    Is it true that their president Ahmadinejad who consorts with human rights champions like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro is simply misquoted and misunderstood?
    The book "Dying To Win: The Logic Of Suicide Terrorism" studies the psyches of all suicide terrorists with knowable histories (over 400 of them). The conclusion: they are actually not very religious at all, in fact they're fairly Westernised. Though Middle Easterners, their common thread is not religious fanaticism, it is a feeling that Western countries (and India) are stepping on their turf. It's a scholarly study whose results even surprised it's author, Robert Pape. Bush supporters can be a clever but denial-ridden bunch.
    Perhaps this book bears reading. But if the conclusion is as you state I can only ask myself who is really in denial?
    I would love to read the passage that supports this statement: "in fact they're fairly Westernised. "

    Westernized people aren't usually programed to become homicide bombers

  6. #6
    Thailand Expat
    GooMaiRoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Last Online
    03-07-2023 @ 08:41 AM
    Posts
    1,139
    The guy who may have already nailed down the winning issue is John Edwards. For years, America's middle class workers have been sliding toward poverty while working longer, more stressful hours. A miserable lot without economic security or a sense that they're getting a fair shake. They're probably right. They're swing voters, too. The shift of wealth to the corporate rich has been striking and economic populism is what separates Edwards from the rest. The fact that he spent years getting money from these corporations in the courtroom may actually work in his favor. His 'slick ambulance chaser' image is just another right wing sound bite by people who won't vote for him anyway. He's also older than JFK when he won.
    Last edited by GooMaiRoo; 26-01-2007 at 08:55 AM.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •