Thread: U.S. v. Libby

it's a big forum boner.....start a thread.

btw, why haven't you dropped by the gonzalez thread?

^ cut and run ?

Originally Posted by raycarey

it's a big forum boner.....start a thread.

btw, why haven't you dropped by the gonzalez thread?

I reckon it's time for him to go but don't have any real strong feelings about the US Attny. firings one way or another.

[quote=Boon Mee;271626]

Originally Posted by raycarey[/quote

You left-wingers are in constant overdrive rewriting the Clinton years so have no room to talk.

Left-Wingers hate Bill Clinton.

Yes, they hate him.


Why because he did all the things Lefties are against:

Welfare reform, NAFTA, special interests, Triangulation.

i don't know if most lefites hate clinton, but they certainly don't trust him....or his wife.

but let's get back on topic.....

libby's going to jail.

Originally Posted by raycarey

i don't know if most lefites hate clinton, but they certainly don't trust him....or his wife.

but let's get back on topic.....

libby's going to jail.

But not for long.
It were a frame...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

But not for long.

doesn't matter.

the vice president's chief of staff was convicted of lying to the FBI and obstructing justice on questions concerning national security during a time of war.

i don't care when he gets out. tomorrow or in 3 years.

libby's conviction and GWB are inextricably linked forever.....along with iraq and katrina.

travel gate.....non story.
vince foster.....a suicide (or boonie do you really think hillary killed him?)
sandy berger.....what you're referring to took place years after clinton left office.
marc rich.....a pardon
monica lewinsky....a blowjob.

do you really believe that history will be kinder to bush than clinton?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

But not for long.

doesn't matter.

the vice president's chief of staff was convicted of lying to the FBI and obstructing justice on questions concerning national security during a time of war.

i don't care when he gets out. tomorrow or in 3 years.

libby's conviction and GWB are inextricably linked forever.....along with iraq and katrina.

Doesn't even rise to the level of Travelgate, Vince Foster, Sandy Berger, Marc Rich, Monica Lewinsky & the impeachment etc, eh?

Libby's conviction might not but the horrible response to Katrina and the Iraq blunder certainly top even Watergate.

Originally Posted by raycarey

travel gate.....non story.
do you really believe that history will be kinder to bush than clinton?

I forgot to include Whitewater and all the nefarious shit the Clintons were up to before hitting the big time.

The jury is out re. whether history will be kinder to Bush as the War on Terror has only begun. Even the Hildebeast says now she will keep the military in Iraq when she's elected.

whitewater?

Three separate inquiries found that there was insufficient evidence to charge the Clintons with criminal conduct.[2]

Whitewater (controversy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

try and raise your game boner....i'm getting bored.

back on topic....

Plame sat alone at a witness table and fielded questions about her CIA career and the disclosure of her name in July 2003 in a syndicated newspaper column. She says she was outed as retaliation against her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who criticized the administration's prewar intelligence on Iraq


"My name and identity were carelessly and recklessly abused by senior officials in the White House and State Department," Plame testified. "I could no longer perform the work for which I had been highly trained."


Plame said she had no role in sending her husband on a CIA fact-finding trip to Niger. Wilson said in a newspaper column that his trip debunked the administration's pre-war intelligence that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium from Africa.


"I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him. There was no nepotism involved. I did not have the authority," she said.

Plame: My cover was 'recklessly' abused - Yahoo! News

Good thing she's testifying under oath as those words are sure to come back to haunt her. This saga isn't over by a long shot.

BTW, Wikipedia isn't a very reliable source...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Wikipedia isn't a very reliable source

the clintons were never charged. full stop.

and try and stay on topic.....

the vice president's chief of staff is going to jail for lying to the fbi on a matter of national security during a time of war.

Originally Posted by raycarey

the vice president's chief of staff is going to jail for lying to the fbi on a matter of national security during a time of war.

that probably makes him a traitor to a lesser degree

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Wikipedia isn't a very reliable source

the clintons were never charged. full stop.

But he was impeached which pisses y'all off to no end!

[quote=raycarey;272055]plame will testify before congress today

Plame is expected to tell Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, that she was, in fact, a classified undercover agent and that her career at the CIA was destroyed in the summer of 2003 when her name became public in a column written by Robert Novak.

Why the leak wasn’t a crime: The Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 is violated when an intelligence agent’s covert identity is revealed within a certain number of years of having returned to the United States. After that time, that law no longer applies and such was the status of Valarie Plame.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

But he was impeached which pisses y'all off to no end!

i don't care the slightest bit that clinton was impeached.

boonie it's true i usually support democrats when running against repbublicans....but i am not nearly the partisan that you are. i still can't get over you claiming that a libby pardon would be 'payback' for clinton's pardon of marc rich. payback for what? why would the republicans (real republicans, not reactionary bloggers) care?

worse than being woefully uninformed and simple minded, you're a bore.

Originally Posted by raycarey

worse than being woefully uninformed and simple minded, you're a bore.

But at least I ain't some TEFLer with grandiose dreams of my own limited intellegence pontificating on subjects out his depth...

Originally Posted by raycarey

worse than being woefully uninformed and simple minded, you're a bore.

Don't you love it when an expansive liberal thinker like Ray resorts to name calling when he no longer has a leg to stand on.

Ray you should ask DD if you can change your name to Jim and then you can stick to telling jokes in the humor section.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

when he no longer has a leg to stand on.

no idea what you're referring to, but libby will be sentenced on june 5th.....that's easy to stand on.

^Very thin, Jimmy, very thin!

oh earl. since for some inexplicable reason you're trying to make this about me, i'd like to take a look at a couple of your other posts on this thread...

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I think since we haven't had any confirmation that she was indeed "covert" then she in all probability was not "covert".

nobody told you she was covert, so therefore she couldn't be covert.
why would a wrinkled expat sitting on a stool in a prostitute bar in phuket, thailand have any idea whether or not someone was covert operative for the CIA? kind of ruins the 'covert' bit, you know? you've already admitted to being a draft dodger, so why should you have any particular insight into the intelligence community? she repeatedly described herself as a covert operative during her testimony....or do you know better? please, enlighten us.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Anyway it will be difficult to prove Libby willfully committed perjury. (which is what Fitzgerald has to to for a conviction.) The case is very weak. Carl Rove is laughing his ass off how badly the dems fell for this turkey.

this was one of my favorites. one, because it wasn't very difficult at all, and two, because the last thing karl rove is doing these days is laughing.

Y'all won't be satisfied until Rove is in chains or worse.
But guess what? It ain't gonna happen. What is happening is you spend too much time watching CNN and getting your brains washed - big-time. It's an ever-ending litiny of repeated Rove 'alledgedly' did this or that. Amazing anyone swallows that pablem...