Thread: obama's 2012 campaign

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Originally Posted by buriramboy

at least Obama has improved the rest of the worlds opinion of America

I haven't heard that brain-washed comment since obama did the Arab Spring round of speeches. How is that working out for Y'All? Egypt, Iran, Syria, etc. Best friends with Israel. And Europe really likes him, too, huh? Greece, perchance? And Russia is his best friend -- oh, dear, Putin just keeps laughing at him.
Yep, real good global opinions.

You obviously were unaware of the universal hatred for Bush then, find me some people from the countries you mention that had a higher opinion of America when Bush was potus than they do now Obama is in charge. Admittadly Obama was starting from a low base after Bush had made America universally loathed.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You obviously were unaware of the universal hatred for Bush then

Better to be hated and respected for power than to be laughed at. It's pretty bad when even a Canadian provincial premier lambasts obama for the crappy relations between Can-US:

Premier Brad Wall has criticized U.S. President Barack Obama, saying recent American economic and energy policies are not good for Canada.
“People think in this country, perhaps they do, that the Obama administration is good for Canada,” Wall told reporters Monday...The facts say something else.”
...
“When there is a recession, the sabres of protectionism start rattling and that’s what we’ve seen stateside,” Wall told reporters after the speech.

Wall’s comments come weeks after an article in Foreign Affairs...declared the bilateral relationship between the U.S. and Canada has sunk to its worst level in decades.

Wall criticizes Obama

Yep, genuflect to your enemies and spit at your allies, obama. This is what you get.

^You're absolutely right in everything you stated, though I'm praying Obama will get back in again, bite the corporate hands that feeds his campaign, and take a sharp turn left. Think there is any chance?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Now just think if all that money hadn't been wasted on warmongering how much better off the average American would be.

The funniest thing is that America spent silly money building schools and hospitals in those places (that are now getting blown up) while their own are falling apart.

^Building all kinds of infrastructure, much of it a complete waste. American contractors get paid quite a bit, and park the money offshore. Total loss.

Obama is getting more out of his "macacca moment" than Romney is.

Seems every business Romney has chosen to claim has not received help, actually has. The Gilcrest man in the Romney ads has had millions of dollars in government contracts. The businesses in California Romney visited had gained from government contracts and the garage owner in Roxbury had a government loan to start his business.

Americans aren't so dumb they can't see these people did have help.

Obama wins.

Originally Posted by misskit

Obama is getting more out of his "macacca moment" than Romney is.

Seems every business Romney has chosen to claim has not received help, actually has. The Gilcrest man in the Romney ads has had millions of dollars in government contracts. The businesses in California Romney visited had gained from government contracts and the garage owner in Roxbury had a government loan to start his business.

Americans aren't so dumb they can't see these people did have help.

Obama wins.

Don't think so Misskit

"The More Context You Get, The Worse It Sounds" - YouTube

Has Obama been Swiftquoted?

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Better to be hated and respected for power than to be laughed at.

Bush wasn't respected, he was ridiculed and reviled.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Premier Brad Wall has criticized U.S. President Barack Obama, saying recent American economic and energy policies are not good for Canada

You think POTUS should make policy decisions based on what is good for Canada? Should the Canadian PM make decisions based on what is good for the USA?

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Better to be hated and respected for power than to be laughed at.

Bush wasn't respected, he was ridiculed and reviled.

Heh...by whom? A small segment of the population mired in the far-left fever swamps?

BTW, his tax cuts will, no doubt, be extended for the obvious reasons...

I love this. Obama camp try to walk back the "you didn't make that" remark. GOP on attack, for good reason. LMFAO.

^
Just ideological/political debate is all, Harry...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And, he’s still trying to distance himself from his “you didn’t build this” speech from Roanoke.

he's not trying to distance himself....he's trying to illustrate how the romney campaign took his comments out of context and is running misleading ads...and EVERYBODY who follows politics knows this to be the case.

i don't particularly blame romney for trying to run with this....but there is nothing in the president's remarks that need to be walked back.

here is the actual quote....in context.




and here's romney saying essentially the same thing in 2002

It's a shame that every four years, the world's (supposedly) greatest superpower is reduced to a couple of blokes taking the piss out of each other all over national (and international) television with their supporters brainlessly cheering them on.

And a shedload of "commentators" dissecting every comment and piling on every bit of positive or negative spin they can dredge up.

And given their dependency on their paymasters, it really is no better an advert for democracy than Iran's "Let's just check if you'll do what we want before we let you stand for election" version. Oh hang on. They're exactly the same, except we know who really runs Iran.

^ Completely agree Harry. It's a charade. Honestly, a bit embarrassing.

As for the polls with 13 weeks to go this may mean something, or it may not. As we know, it's all up to the Electoral College.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Friday, July 27, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting 49% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

The numbers are similar to the 49% to 43% advantage Romney enjoys on the question of who is trusted more to handle the economy.

Entire: Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

Originally Posted by barbaro

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Friday, July 27, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports

Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly - NYTimes.com

^ Thanks for catching that Landreth.

Edit in:

Landreth.

That link you post above is from November, 2010

November 4, 2010, 10:41 PM

you really hit the trifecta of irrelevance, barabaro.

the poll you cite is:

a national poll
a daily tracking poll
a rasmussen poll


IOW, it's essentially worthless for determining who is going to win the election.

Originally Posted by raycarey

you really hit the trifecta of irrelevance, barabaro.

the poll you cite is:

a national poll
a daily tracking poll
a rasmussen poll

IOW, it's essentially worthless for determining who is going to win the election.

Thanks for being candid, ray. You are correct.

A national poll is not good for prediction, but can it show some moment building?

As for Rassmussen, is their repuation that bad?

If so, I'll stick with real clear like usual.

Originally Posted by raycarey

you really hit the trifecta of irrelevance, barabaro.

the poll you cite is:

a national poll
a daily tracking poll
a rasmussen poll


IOW, it's essentially worthless for determining who is going to win the election.

Well then, how 'bout a Trifecta + one of relevance then, eh?

Barack Obama is the worst jobs president since the Great Depression.
Barack Obama owns the largest four deficits in history.
Barack Obama added $5 trillion to the US debt in just over three years – another record.
The GDP is sliding each quarter – this last quarter the GDP slid to 1.5%.

I reckon when Romney is in the debates and foreign policy comes up, he's going to look a bigger chump than Sarah Palin.

"Good afternoon, Mr., er, Leader".

Nice one!

Come off it BM, everyone knows he inherited a legacy of debt from his predecessor helping bankers commit the biggest theft in global banking history.

What do you think a Republican would have done to fix it?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Come off it BM, everyone knows he inherited a legacy of debt from his predecessor helping bankers commit the biggest theft in global banking history.

What do you think a Republican would have done to fix it?

A Republican would not have bailed out the Unions strangling General Motors and probably would have let them die a quiet death. W/respect to the bankers, can't say but the salient point is a Republican wouldn't be trying income redistribution "You got to spread the $ around" and a Republican would not believe, let alone say "You Can't Build That".

The. Bro. Gotta. Go.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

A Republican would not have bailed out the Unions strangling General Motors and probably would have let them die a quiet death.

So you would have been for handing the entire US car industry to foreigners and letting them reap the profits?

W/respect to the bankers, can't say but the salient point is a Republican wouldn't be trying income redistribution "You got to spread the $ around"

We know that from the trillions of dollars that the top 5% have amassed in the last few decades.

and a Republican would not believe, let alone say "You Can't Build That".

The. Bro. Gotta. Go.

An overworked soundbite to be honest, I think he's right to say it if he means "We've got to help small business get on their feet (or back on their feet), but of course it was too easy to turn it against him.