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    Quote Originally Posted by BG
    Not that much going on in the moo ban so thats what gossip was invented for.
    People watch too many soap operas which as you probably know are full of people who lead dramatic lives with lots of action and incidents. The reality is that we mostly lead dull ordinary lives with an occasional interesting incident. In a small village a farang becomes the focus of every wagging tongue and over active imagination, who feel the need to turn ordinary life into the equivalent of the latest soap.In my own case a woman delivering some graphics to the house became, in the neighbours brains, my mistress who I was entertaining at home while my wife was out. The neighbours of course made sure that the story was fed to my wife - just so she was aware of what was going on behind her back - but not before the rest of the village had been let in on the story.
    Lord, deliver us from e-mail.

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    Yes, this may happen.
    'suppose I'm lucky, I have become part of the village inventory and not subject to unusual curiousity any longer.
    Darn, the first half year was tough, yet enjoyable. People were coming round early mornings to watch the farang eat strange stuff like cheese on toast, before they went to work, and my abilities to eat local food was tested (I passed).

    I got incredibly drunk almost every night, being called to join 'sessions' throughout the neighbourhood. Then we had work on the house done, and of course you gotta entertain the workers after hours...

    Now I just occasionally join a party or village festival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ota View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Do you want to live in a city or in the sticks.

    What is a "a very comfortable life " ?
    You need to give a lot more info if you want a decent reply.

    Some folks live here on 20k baht per month, others cannot get by on 100k
    We want to olive in the sticks if it's at all possible to have a couple thousand sq. feet with AC. ( my idea of very comfotable) Sorry I threw in the word " very " as it confuses me now that I look at it.

    Wifey tells me everybody knows your every business in the country. That is a problem. We like privacy.
    Welcome to Teak Door.

    Privacy is not so easy to find. Thailand is a family-oriented culture, and most Thais have a serious problem with being alone. The extended family and friends spend a LOT of time together. When you throw a party, half the village joins in and will get drunk at your home, singing karaoke and carrying on until late at night, sometimes for days on end. It can be fun but also quite exhausting.

    You should listen to stroller when it comes to life in the sticks.

    Just remember the concept of 'mine' is not readily accepted or understood by many people here. Might be difficult for you to get used to if you are not a communal kind of person.

    if you live very far away from anywhere else, you should also be aware that security can be an issue. And if you do live close to others, do not be surprised if chickens and dogs becomes the soundtrack to your life. Even in the cities...
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    OTA, How much time have you spent in Thailand ?

    Your best course of action would be to have an extended holiday over here to look around and see where you would like to live. You would be able to price all your living needs and estimate yourself how much money you will need each month. No-one here knows enough about your life style to give you a price.
    Do you have any family who could look after your kids for a while or maybe come during the school holidays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    When you throw a party, half the village joins in and will get drunk at your home, singing karaoke and carrying on until late at night, sometimes for days on end. It can be fun but also quite exhausting.
    This reminds me the blessing of our house in the moobaan with all the people coming to eat and then the dozen left drinking the usual SangSom in the sala till nearly midnight and not yet complitely drunk to go back home.

    At this time I began to serve them some scotch whisky, not thai style (1/8 whisky/soda), but as I drink myself fifty-fifty. I don't had to wait long time to see them disappearing one by one, though I don't know where. Those thai people don't last long time if you really make them drink.

    To be back on topic, I live in a moobaan and no people is allowed to bypass my door, and nobody is allowed freely except two people as I and my wife have established the limits of our privacy. Oh, I forgot to say that my wife is a chinese dragon.

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    ^ MODS. I object. I never,never,never said that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Oh, I forgot to say that my wife is a chinese dragon.
    MODS I object!! I didn't think we were allowed to brag on this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    I admit guilt for libelous misquoting of Thetyim and accept liability for unlimited financial compensation
    Thank you William

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    Do the kids speak Thai?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    I think your biggest problem will be education.
    Your kids are 2 & 5. Do they speak thai ?

    What sort of education are you expecting to provide for them?
    International schools are only in the big cities

    The 5 year old has no interest in speaking Thai but saw wa dee kups anyone looking Asian. THe 2 year old understands everything Mom says to him in Tha but currently is a bit slow in talking as he speaks in both languages and mixes them up. My wife will spend a few weeks in Thailand with the 2 year old in July and says he will not hear English over that period. I don't know much about education for kids nowadays. In Kindergarten my son brings home more homework then I had in 9th grade.

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    I've been over a few time for only a couple of weeks at a time.

    [quote=Thetyim;279588]OTA, How much time have you spent in Thailand ?

    Your best course of action would be to have an extended holiday over here to look around and see where you would like to live. You would be able to price all your living needs and estimate yourself how much money you will need each month. No-one here knows enough about your life style to give you a price.
    Do you have any family who could look after your kids for a while or maybe come during the school holidays.[/quote

    I wonder if I could ever get used to being so communal. It sounds like I couldn't find what I like in the sticks in Thailand. I have had a taste of it here with the 50-100 Thais that we know just in our area and the list keeps growing expotenially if we let it. What I am uncomfortable with is the amount of gossip the Thais here create. It's very competive and alliances keep shifting. But I thought Thais in the US are a select group that are more ambitious the most and constantly need to compare what they have to what you have. I find myself being protective of my wife as Thais married to Thais look at our interratial marriage in a negative light. I also notice that Thai women here never tire of worrying about other Thai women stealing their man. I think my wife has not only become an American citizen but has actually changed into someone who is not seeing things as a 100% Thai would but thankfully has not embraced being an American women either. I think it is difficult for us to be comfortable in many places here in the states and I th ink it will be the same in Thailand.

    So what about Bangkok. Can we find a place where I can be left alone by the neighbors or had I better learn to go native if I want to live there?

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    which school is the best for the kids?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    I wouldn't send my kids to any of the international schools in ChiangMai.
    I couldn't afford to for starters, but the education that they are getting is iffy at best.There is only one Thai school here that I would consider too.

    Which one is that?

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    Pingkarrat.... small class sizes, a level of English at least 2 years ahead of the other schools and a general knowledge and interest that most Thai kids don't have.
    Whatever they are doing at that school, they are doing it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ota
    Can we find a place where I can be left alone by the neighbors
    Just do what I do, don't bother talking to them

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    Living a communal village life full of gossiping neighbours is not inevitable.
    If you live in a poor village full of rice farmers then you will have to work hard to stop it.
    If you live in a better neighbourhood with professionals then the problem will not exist.

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    weather data

    For info on average tempuratures etc go here"

    Thailand : Weather Underground

    If you dig down in each of the cities you'll generally find monthly averages.

    Enjoy researching Thailand.

    BTW,

    Rule #1 .... I am NOT an ATM

    Rule # 2.... No one stays overnight unless I ask.

    Rule # 3.... If you don't understand this go to rule #1 and start over.
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    Don't ask the question!"

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    Or you could go to TD Links and click on the weather page there which has all the Thai ones on one page

    https://teakdoor.com/view.php?pg=thai...ather-forecast

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    Temperature swings in Mae Hong Son

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Or you could go to TD Links and click on the weather page there which has all the Thai ones on one page

    https://teakdoor.com/view.php?pg=thai...ather-forecast

    70 degrees F today and 98 tomorrow. IS this colder air from CHina blowing in and the replaced with hot tropical air?

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    Gossip

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Living a communal village life full of gossiping neighbours is not inevitable.
    If you live in a poor village full of rice farmers then you will have to work hard to stop it.
    If you live in a better neighbourhood with professionals then the problem will not exist.
    In the states a "better neighborhood " is usually drowining in gossip because you have the competitive thing and you have the people who feel their status puts them in a position to judge what is good or bad. Haven;t you run into the neighbor who loves minding ewveryone elses business> Then those that watch the news all the time constantly think their is a criminal or criminal act going on that they will bust and get to be on TV. IS it different in Thai upper class neighborhoods?

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    Farang rules for living with relatives

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon View Post
    For info on average tempuratures etc go here"

    Thailand : Weather Underground

    If you dig down in each of the cities you'll generally find monthly averages.

    Enjoy researching Thailand.

    BTW,

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    Rule # 2.... No one stays overnight unless I ask.

    Rule # 3.... If you don't understand this go to rule #1 and start over.
    HaHaHa

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    Quote Originally Posted by ota
    IS it different in Thai upper class neighborhoods?
    In my experience, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
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    Yes, this may happen.
    'suppose I'm lucky, I have become part of the village inventory and not subject to unusual curiousity any longer.
    Darn, the first half year was tough, yet enjoyable. People were coming round early mornings to watch the farang eat strange stuff like cheese on toast, before they went to work, and my abilities to eat local food was tested (I passed).

    I got incredibly drunk almost every night, being called to join 'sessions' throughout the neighbourhood. Then we had work on the house done, and of course you gotta entertain the workers after hours...

    Now I just occasionally join a party or village festival.
    yea Ota to be part of the in crowd
    just start eating what the locals
    do.
    Stroller is half thai de iure et de facto now that he ate his dog
    (sort of a rite of passage) and is planning his next gastronomic move:
    buffalo shit balls with dung beetle mitt larvae inside

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    ota for the sake of your kids stay in New York.
    Schools here are abysmal. Unless you and your wife are ready to home school them and teach them Thai. (that would be an interesting upbringing)
    Given your building skills you should easily find lucrative opportunities due to the housing boom going on here.

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    My building skill consist of my ability to fall into holes on a job site

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    ota for the sake of your kids stay in New York.
    Schools here are abysmal. Unless you and your wife are ready to home school them and teach them Thai. (that would be an interesting upbringing)
    Given your building skills you should easily find lucrative opportunities due to the housing boom going on here.

    Actually these still is somewhat of a boom here but outside Saratoga County it seems to have come to a grinding halt, at least in upstate NY. I hear you can still buy a home in Niagra for $20,000. HOwever, I was a Chiropractor until both hips needed replacement suddenly. I went on early retirement a few years back. Wed do have a great little neighborhood elementary school. I admit that I am very fond of looking at the pictures of little Thai kids in the same color t shirts or uniforms together. They are so dam cute! I especi ally like the pics of the kids taken by the cool dude with the long white hair and the out of this world hog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ota
    70 degrees F today and 98 tomorrow. IS this colder air from CHina blowing in and the replaced with hot tropical air?
    Who knows?
    But temps dropped markedly yesterday, as a hail storm decided to unload here.

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    hail storm?

    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ota
    70 degrees F today and 98 tomorrow. IS this colder air from CHina blowing in and the replaced with hot tropical air?
    Who knows?
    But temps dropped markedly yesterday, as a hail storm decided to unload here.
    you mean while frozen h20 was falling in upstate NY it was also falling in Thailand?

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