Thread: The New C7 Corvette Was Just Released

Originally Posted by FailSafe

It never gets sideways or goes up in smoke like when Clarkson drove the Z06- I'm not arguing that it's not a handful, but if it really handled as poorly as some people claim, it would NEVER be able to hang with or beat other supercars no matter how much power it has.

Well I have no dog in that particular fight about the relative merits of its handling, however it most definitely does get sideways in that VDO.

Can't watch that vid on my iPad. What's the difference where the vid I posted came from? It's the Stig driving it.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

tell me at what point it gets 'sideways'- it doesn't (there are points where it slides under power or braking).

I already have, try the very first corner for starters; it clearly steps out and "slides" around the corner.

So unless the laws of physics have been changed then that's very much 'sideways'.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by FailSafe

tell me at what point it gets 'sideways'- it doesn't (there are points where it slides under power or braking).

I already have, try the very first corner for starters; it clearly steps out and "slides" around the corner.

So unless the laws of physics have been changed then that's very much 'sideways'.

the problem is Ant that Americans think that is good handling because they have nothing to compare it to. I doubt that car shows in the US show anything other than merican cars. It's fast, shit your pants scary, poorly built out of cheap components and for that, it is cheap so the masses can afford it. No problem with that at all. Fills a gap in the market.

Stepping out of line under power around a corner is not 'getting sideways' (as you said, thats called 'stepping out of line')- having the car move towards being perpendicular to the road in a turn and smoking the tires is 'getting sideways' (which it didn't do).

A car that loses a lot of traction or steps too much out of line simply cannot turn a decent lap time (as the saying goes, 'If you're spinning, you're not winning').

The power of the Vette must be judiciously applied- the ZR-1 isn't for everyone- the base model is a lot more user-friendly (and affordable).

This is getting sideways- loss of traction in the rear wheels, and the front wheels turned counter to the direction you want to go in an attempt to stop the slide- its way more severe than stepping out of line (if you don't step out of line a bit, you're not driving the car to its limit)- it's not the same as having the car move laterally in a turn:

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Stepping out of line under power around a corner is not 'getting sideways' (as you said, thats called 'stepping out of line')- having the car move towards being perpendicular to the road in a turn and smoking the tires is 'getting sideways' (which it didn't do).

That's just semantics, there's no set or predefined angle for a car to be considered 'sideways' much less a prerequisite for "smoking tires" (and on that, a picture of a drift car doesn't prove anything).

Granted there are obviously different degrees of being 'sideways', but that VDO clearly shows the care going in, and around, the corner sideways.

Sideways:

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I understand what you mean- the car absolutely moved laterally through loss of traction several times- in racing, 'sideways' means having to counter-steer to get out of the slide (as in the pics above), and the Stig never had to do that in the video.

Are you telling me that if a Corvette gets it's back out, you don't have to steer in the opposite direction to get it going straight again?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Are you telling me that if a Corvette gets it's back out, you don't have to steer in the opposite direction to get it going straight again?

Of course not- I'm saying the Stig didn't have to counter-steer his way out of anything in that video- his slides were controlled- your results may vary (mine certainly would- I'm no master of the four-wheel-drift).

Again, any 600+hp car will be a handful to drive fast- experts-only need apply- a tiny percentage of Corvettes are ZR-1 models, though.

Set of Girls you lot are! Like to see you follow my 850cc mini van through the LAke District backroads after 8 pints!( Brakes non optional extras)

lol banger mini's are the ultimate. Always have been and always will be,

I watched it again- the Stig did get sideways for a fraction of a second at the 0:23 mark of the video, but I never saw him counter-steer at any other point.

Right here- not too bad, though, but that is indeed sideways:

We can all accept that what Americans call good handling is different to the rest of the world. Same as what they term good cheese.

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That cheese is still edible- it only expired 13.5 years ago.

I have to give it to you British- your national cuisine is awesome- I love curries and kebabs.

lol - handles like a Vette, and percentage wise, about the same amount of plastic. I would say though that in a crash test, the cheese would fair better.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

or it is not the best quickest car in the world.

So its junk for not being the quickest car in the world....

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by pseudolus

or it is not the best quickest car in the world.

So its junk for not being the quickest car in the world....

No, it's just junk. Poorly built, poorly styled, and puts power before anything else. If I had the money to buy one here in LOS, I would buy a second hand decent car instead. At least the roof wouldn't fall off as happens on Vettes.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

And the majority of owners are as good a driver as Stig?

Even he was fighting it in every corner...you didn't watch it, did you...

You and me could easily get into the majority of european built sports cars and drive them well. Most average joes would kill themselves in a Vette. Because they have crap dynamics. And when they crash, they are death traps.

No you retard. There is just more of them around because they don't cost a million bucks. That is why you see more wrecks of Vettes then anything else. Euro cars kill people every week. These are wrecks from the last 2 months



Two dead in this one a couple weeks ago


Porsche for ya


2 people killed here


2 dead here in the Porche

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Yes, the guy who cries about there being no affordable sports cars in LOS to the point where he would consider spending 2mil on a POS 10-year-old Lotus wouldn't buy a new Vette if it was in his price range- buuuuuuuuuullshit.