Thread: E-Cigarettes, Follow up

To those that are interested I just thought I'd share my experiences so far.

Well I'm 5 days in I haven't touched a cigarette at all. The first day I had cravings but the following days hardly any at all.

I was using the e-cigarette incorrectly, so once I got the hang of it on the 2nd day I knew this was a winner.

The change over was a lot easier than expected.

A few tips for those that are thinking about it...

Buy 2 flavours to start with. I really didn't like the flavour it came with but stuck with it to avoid going back to real smokes.

When you puff on it (this is where I went wrong) its not like a cigarette, you have to take long slow draws.

Breath the vapour into your mouth first, then into your lungs. Just breathing the vapour straight in was quite harsh.

I have found keeping the routine I had before has helped in getting used to the e-cig as a replacment, I still go outside when I use the e-cig as slowly breaking the routines I had before is part of giving up. On the first day I just stayed indoors and it didn't feel right. After a few days now I have got used to it and am only heading outside once or twice a day.

I ordered 16mg liquid to start with, and compared to the L&Ms I have been smoking it felt strong. I have ordered 11mg for my next batch, then hopefully drop to 6mg then 0

I'm using about 1ml of liquid a day, so its costing me 10baht a day.

Im not sure if they will suit everyone but for me they are perfect. I honestly don't think i'll ever touch a cig again and its the first time I have felt like this.

I'm starting the coughs now, I guess thats my lungs starting to heal and try and get out all the shit I have been putting in there.

Not smelling like an ashtray anymore, taste getting better already. I really happy with the way its going.

If anyone needs the info on where to buy, or where to restock e-liquids/parts etc feel free to pm me.

Cheers

You had any weird dreams yet ?

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

You had any weird dreams yet ?

Now that you mention it SS yes my dreams have become much more vivid. I rarely remember my dreams but the past couple of days I have remembered them like real life events. Quite strange dreams too.

I never thought that the two things would be connected, you have just given me some food for thought!

Do you ask as you have experienced this too?

Yea , I gave up once for 6 weeks and was waking up at night with cold sweats after some weird dreams

Just had a look on google and it seems to be a common side effect. I'm quite enjoying them!

Try that Allen Car DVD, it's free and will give you the willpower when you hit a rough spot.

Good Luck Bud

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Try that Allen Car DVD, it's free and will give you the willpower when you hit a rough spot.

Good Luck Bud

Thanks SS, going well so far and I'm determined not to fail this time. Have you started to try giving up yet?

Allen Carr worked for me offshore. Only listened to half of it and slowly started again through drinking 6 weeks later.

I'll be sure to do the whole thing when I go back to work.

The Allen Carr method did him fook all good Allen Carr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apart from his heirs' bank balances that is...

Originally Posted by Bogon

Originally Posted by Satonic

If anyone needs the info on where to buy, or where to restock e-liquids/parts etc feel free to pm me.

Was gonna PM, but thought by posting my questions here it might inform others and not block your inbox.
I've seen adverts for these e-ciggies, but don't really fully understand what they are/do.
So here are a few quick questions if you don't mind answering them.

1 - What the hell are e-ciggies?
2 - Where can I buy in Bangkok?
3 - How much to get fully started?
4 - How much for the refills?
5 - Are they smokeless/omit no smell? You mentioned about e-smoking indoors.

Thanks in advance.

1 - Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically its a way of smoking but without inhaling any of the 4000 odd chemicals in cigarettes. Its basically propylene glycol, nicotine and flavoring that your inhaling. Apart from the nicotine all other 'ingredients' are of food safety standard.

2 - There are a few places in MBK that I'm aware of. I have ordered everything online. E-Cigarette Thailand Forum - Index
OVALE THAILAND - Where to buy
http://www.i-careless.com/

3 - I paid 2950 for the initial kit OVALE THAILAND - The eGo-T and then another 500 on e-liquid which should last me just over 2 months.

4 - http://www.i-careless.com/E_Juice/Dekang These are 100 baht per 10ml. I am using 1 ml a day.

5 - You breathe out a vapor, which is odorless. Depending on the liquid you choose the amount of vapor may vary. I get about half the amount of vapor he is exhaling.

The taste is very much like a real cig, the nicotine hit may be slightly odd at first as it has a weak stinging effect on your tongue but it only took me a few hours to get used to that.

I hope that helps?

Thanks for the quick response and handy info.
Sure it's gonna help me and others.

Are they legal in Australia?

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Are they legal in Australia?

I haven't a clue, but they are not legal here in LOS

Thanks for the info

I wonder how Loy Toy is getting on

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

I wonder how Loy Toy is getting on

Absolutely brilliant mate but I have to make one thing absolutely clear.

Although you are not smoking about 4,000 chemicals and other toxic shit you inhale when smoking normal cigarettes you are still taking in Nicotine therefore you are still an addict when using these E-Cigs.

Yes, no smelly clothes and hair, my morning cough has all but disappeared and my senses of smell and taste are improving but I am still an addict.

I went out with a mate last night and did smoke 2 normal cigarettes over about a dozen beers but have not touched one since and probably wont unless I am pissed up.

Larvidchr and I discussed the advantages with regard to E-CIgs and there are a lot but I think we both realize that the nicotine habit is going to be very hard to kick.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

I wonder how Loy Toy is getting on

Absolutely brilliant mate but I have to make one thing absolutely clear.

Although you are not smoking about 4,000 chemicals and other toxic shit you inhale when smoking normal cigarettes you are still taking in Nicotine therefore you are still an addict when using these E-Cigs.

Yes, no smelly clothes and hair, my morning cough has all but disappeared and my senses of smell and taste are improving but I am still an addict.

I went out with a mate last night and did smoke 2 normal cigarettes over about a dozen beers but have not touched one since and probably wont unless I am pissed up.

Larvidchr and I discussed the advantages with regard to E-CIgs and there are a lot but I think we both realize that the nicotine habit is going to be very hard to kick.

Yes loy toy, I completely agree. This is just the first step. But I am finding this 1 million times better than anything else I have tried.

With the e-cigs I can control the amount of nicotine in the liquid, and gradually break it down. I think that will be a lot easier to break it down over time as with an e-cig your still getting the flavour and smoking sensation.

I take my hat off to those who can go cold turkey, I'm not one of them. So to have moved onto a product, that has shown me that I can move on and change things and break certain habits will eventually end up with me using 0 mg of nicotine. I plan to drop a step each month. 3 months in total.

I feel a lot safer and confident this way as even if the vapour I'm inhaling has no nicotine I still get that smoking sensation which i'd say was 50% of my addiction in the first place.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Satonic

I feel a lot safer and confident this way as even if the vapour I'm inhaling has no nicotine I still get that smoking sensation which i'd say was 50% of my addiction in the first place.

Good for you mate and I feel a lot better health wise smoking this product.

At the end of the day even if you continue on with the E-Cigs long term it has to be a lot healthier then the dreaded weed and without inconveniencing others.

I have not done a breakdown on costs but I reckon this product will work out cheaper then smoking normal cigarettes.

After the initial cost of buying the e-cig the juice is costing me 10 baht a day. 10ml - 100 baht. I use 1 ml a day.

And like you I feel a lot better.

I have been thinking what if I can't quit the e-cigs? Well in answer to that, like I said the sensation and habit of smoking is 50% of it for me so even if I continued to use an e-cig with no nicotine I'd be over the moon.

And if I still continued to use it with nicotine, well I'm left with 1 of over 4000 toxins I'd usually be inhaling.

Right now I'm set on cutting it out all together, I guess only time will tell and I will update this thread. But after 5 days to be cigarette free I'm happy.

jandajoy, yes they are illegal in Australia.

The reason, if children get hold of the liquid, it could make them very ill or kill them.

That is what some woman from the government said on TV.

F..k we must be a smart lot of people in Australia, that means that all the chemicals we use around the house are safe for kids to drink.

And these idiots are controling our country.

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Yea , I gave up once for 6 weeks and was waking up at night with cold sweats after some weird dreams

"I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a
king of infinite space—were it not that I have bad dreams."
Hamlet Act 2, scene 2, 251–259

Can you use them on airplanes? I usually chew the nicorette gum, which gives me nausea.

Pickel told me they are illegal in planes, but you could use them on the toilet if they can be brought on the plane?? - there is no smell and what comes out is just harmless vapor that disappears immediately.

I'm on no smoking regular cigs for just over one month now, and is down to only using the low nikotin fluid, it is no worse for your body than nikotin patches or the gum or the caffeine in your coffee.

The real dangerous effects of smoking comes from the tar and coal and other poisonous additives added by the tobacco companies, you inhale it ruining your lungs and the body's ability to absorb oxygen, none of that with the ecigs, so if you have smoked 30 - 40 years what is 6 months or a year to kick the habit completely using the ecigs!!

I used to smoke minimum 60 marlboro a day so apart from the initial investment of 3000 bath (so already breaking even after about 15 days) for the ecigs (eGo-T), so with the liquid it still for me works out massively cheaper than smoking on top if that had been a concern.

If this works for you no reason not to go ahead.

Good luck to you all trying to kick the habit.

However, you can't look cool smoking an ecig, and every time someone sees you with one you're gonna have to explain yourself all. Over. Again.