Thread: Running

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

pfft

it's benefited me no end

good for the mental health side of things to boot

I believe you hun, but .... just fyi .

Long-term endurance athletes were found to suffer diminished function of the right ventricle of the heart after endurance racing. They also had increased blood levels of cardiac enzymes, which are markers for heart injury, and 12 percent of the athletes had detectable scar tissue on their heart muscle one week post-race
Although exercise reduces your cardiovascular risk by a factor of three, too much vigorous exercise, such as marathon running, actually increases your cardiac risk by seven
Not only is it possible to over-exercise, but simply focusing on the wrong type of exercise to the exclusion of everything else can actually do you more harm than good
There’s compelling evidence showing that high-intensity interval training, which requires but a fraction of the time compared to conventional cardio, is FAR more efficient, and more effective. You can literally reap greater rewards in less time. The same can be said for the super-slow form of weight training, which mirrors many of the health benefits of high-intensity interval training.

Just making you aware of something you may not know.
New Study Shows Cardio Workout May Damage Your Heart

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Neverna

How many miles a week do you run, CMN?

about 60 kilometres i suppose

i don't seem capable of increasing my speed

it mystifies me that people can do 10 km in 30 minutes or a marathon in just over 2 hours

that's an all out sprint

But those runners are running at least 100miles (160km) a week. Their bodies have adapted over the years. You have to keep at it and eventually progress will come.

^^
i smoke 20 cigs a day misty

i gave up on my heart years ago

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

^^
i smoke 20 cigs a day misty

I doubt they will help your lungs or your running, but you knew that already.

Originally Posted by Neverna

I doubt they will help your lungs or your running

i'm sure they don't but they don't seem to hinder me much either

i had one this morning when i was warming up

I smoke 1 cigarette a month and it takes me 3 days to recover.

when i play tennis, i have one between changes of end

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Neverna

I doubt they will help your lungs or your running

i'm sure they don't but they don't seem to hinder me much either

i had one this morning when i was warming up

You've gotta be kidding me. Don't you know how mucles work? I won't tell you but I will tell you that they use oxygen and the more efficiently your body and muscles use oxygen the faster you will be able to run. So messing up your lungs by smoking will probably be a factor in your not being able to run faster.

i think i should try to quit smoking then

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Neverna

I doubt they will help your lungs or your running

i'm sure they don't but they don't seem to hinder me much either

i had one this morning when i was warming up

You might be surprised.

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

I did my one and only one in 3.52

good on you

where did you do it?

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

In Chiang Mai run with the Hash House Harriers

that's not for me

i do it as an individual pursuit

just me and the stars and the moon and a good audio book


btw misty

that study is totally unverified nonsense

eddie izzard running a marathon a day...6 days a week for 8 weeks

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

I did my one and only one in 3.52

good on you

where did you do it?

Portland, Oregon

i was so unfit a few years back that i had to start with the couch to 5km programme

it's absolutely fantastic for really unfit people that want to get healthy

starts ridiculously easily....even obese smokers can handle week 1

The Couch-to-5K ® Running Plan | C25K Mobile App

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

btw misty

that study is totally unverified nonsense

I disagree, but it is talking about marathon runners mostly.. the ones that do too much.
It isn't just that article, there are many on the subject.

Anyhow, you should give up smoking... I can't believe you can run like that and still be a heavy enough smoker. I bet you can do much more if you quit.

Originally Posted by MissTraveller

I disagree, but it is talking about marathon runners mostly.

it's one study

and it's very inconclusive

they seem to be confusing a thickening of the heart walls in elite athletes with ordinary joggers

many elite athletes drop dead owing to heart diseases
footballers are forever carking it in their twenties

the study's true statistical significance has not been established in fact, it was freely admitted that the results could be due to other factors..

they seem to have published it knowing it would create a giant splash

in any case, i'd rather die running than on a sofa with a donut in my gob

If you have the willpower to get off your arse and run 8km's a day, giving up smoking should be a breeze and it's only the fags that are preventing you from running faster.
I've given up smoking for over 2 weeks now. The first few days are the worst. I started on that c25k a while back and then didnt bother. I thought after giving up the tabs I'd have loads more energy now, but no I'm still a lazy fat fock so I'm gonna go download that app again.

Can you be a runner and smoke, or a smoker and run?


We often think of runners as athletes: active, health-conscious, and fit. A runner wouldn’t ever let a cigarette touch his or her lips, right?

Surprisingly, a number of runners still light one up on occasion — or even regularly. An estimated 43.8 million people — that’s 19 percent of adults — in the U.S. smoke cigarettes. As a growing number of Americans turn to running as a way to improve health, it’s natural to wonder how exactly smoking cigarettes can affect running performance.

Decreased VO2 Max
Your VO2 max is how much oxygen your body can process at any given time. The more oxygen that your body is able to efficiently send to your blood, the better your body can withstand running faster.

Smoking lowers the amount of oxygen the blood can absorb, because carbon monoxide from the cigarette smoke will bind to the hemoglobin in your blood, according to Coach Joe English on his Blog, “Running Advice and News.” runner, smoker, health

The larger amounts of carbon monoxide in your blood mean that your body is unable to release oxygen through the blood efficiently, thus impairing your VO2 max. Because of this, you will not be able to run at your peak performance if you smoke regularly.

Less Endurance
In order to run farther and longer, you need endurance. Cigarette smoking effectively decreases this component for any runner, but it’s especially evident in a distance runner. Because of your decreased VO2 max from smoking, your heart and lungs must work harder to distribute blood and oxygen throughout your body to fuel your jogs, runs, and long runs. Your body is working harder to take each step than it needs to just to run, let alone to run faster or longer.

Difficulty breathing
Airway resistance is also a factor here. Smoking constricts the airways, as well as enlarges mucous membranes, making it harder for your lungs to receive the oxygen that is needed for your body. Tar from cigarette smoke can also coat the airways, further decreasing the amount of oxygen available.

In other words, smoking will definitely not enhance running performance. It can decrease your performance drastically. But smokers can still start running.
In fact, one positive factor in the relationship between running and smoking is that when a smoker takes up running they become less interested in smoking. As they become healthier and stronger, quitting smoking becomes easier. Many former smokers will reap huge health benefits when they replace their smoking addiction with a running addiction.

If you want to run your best for life and help your entire body function better, it’s a great idea to kick your smoking habit and focus on supporting your get-fit efforts with a clean, healthy diet absent of cigarettes.

Is Smoking Bad for Runners? - Running Tips - Run.com

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I've given up smoking for over 2 weeks now.

i haven't been in that thread for a while

gives me guilt trips but really good on you

couch to 5km is brilliant
i made my wife do it last year

when i was doing the couch to 5km, i read the fat man running blogspot of his experiences

hilarious reading

Fat Man Running | One Fat Man’s Goal; 26.2

I was enjoying that c25k. Some woman shouting run then walk if I recall . I just remember why I stopped doing that now. It was on one of the 10 phones I lost in bars in Thailand

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Some woman shouting run then walk if I recall

there's quite a few podcasts and apps for it

my favourite is this enormous black bitch who seems to have been dieting and exercising for the past ten years and actually putting on weight

here you go

her name is carli



her couch to 5 km podcast is here

5K Training Downloads « Running Into Shape

Downloaded the c25k app.

Now how can I do a penis shaped GPS running log ?

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Takes about 16 weeks from memory starting at 10 miles . Oops 18 weeks...

Start at 10 miles. Hmmm...

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i was so unfit a few years back that i had to start with the couch to 5km programme

Much more sensible place to start.