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    Quick Marriage Question

    When you get married officially, ie. register at the Umpur with all the documents, does the wife take the surname of the husband as done in the West?
    In Thailand is this voluntary, or, mandatory?
    If she does take the husbands name, can the wife get a new ID card with her new surname on it, or, does she always have to have her Thai family name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    When you get married officially, ie. register at the Umpur with all the documents, does the wife take the surname of the husband as done in the West?
    In Thailand is this voluntary, or, mandatory?
    If she does take the husbands name, can the wife get a new ID card with her new surname on it, or, does she always have to have her Thai family name?
    It's not obligatory to take the husband's name. However, if they do take your name, their passport is not changed, just a notation is made of the name change. ID cards, however, are changed with the western surname.

    Some Thai women don't like having a western surname because they believe it hinders them and labels them in dealings in Thailand. However, it makes it easier traveling if she has your surname, and issuing credit cards, etc..

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    Thanks a lot chinthee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    Thanks a lot chinthee.

    My advice is that if you're going to be traveling a lot internationally, or perhaps living in the west for some periods do the name change. If you're staying in Thailand, she's better off with her Thai name.

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    Staying in Thailand, though it'll be her choice.

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    my wife changed heres the time we registered and had her new ID card made, she has had no problems with my name on her IDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    Staying in Thailand, though it'll be her choice.
    Yes, have her talk to friends who've married Farangs. There are lots of subtle prejudices & jumping to false conclusions by some Thais in government agencies, banks, whatever, and this is whether she's Thai Thai, Isaan, or Thai-Chinese.

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    If she has a farang name on her Thai ID and she is pursuing a land purchase, she may be asked to get you to sign a letter stating that the wherewithal and money to do so is entirely hers and as well as you agreeing to waive all claim to said land ownership regardless of what may happen in the future. The Thai government expects you to sign your name to this even if it is a bald faced lie.
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    No worries. Firstly, I don't plan on buying any more land in LOS.
    Secondly, if I did, I would do the same as I have done with my land and house; take out a 30 year lease.

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    I believe Chin's on the money with his advice.

    My wife was an orphaned pup from the start. She "borrowed" a neighbor's name as a newborn because her Thai father fucked-off and left Lao mother with a baby in Thailand. She would have been persona non grata if not for the generous neighbor. She was happy to have her own name and family book when we registered our house here.

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    my wife changed hers on her passport, so had to change her ID to match

    no problems, besides queueing a lot to do it

    I think if she does opt to change it, then her ID must change and her passport will also be issued in her new name. If she already has an old passport, then that will not be changed unless you ask for it to be, until renewal

    If she is married, whatever name, then you have to sign that it is only her money involved if buying land
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    Only bad things that happen to my wife is she is asked by broads in banks and damn near everywhere she goes is if she knows any other farang that would like to marry a Thai..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Only bad things that happen to my wife is she is asked by broads in banks and damn near everywhere she goes is if she knows any other farang that would like to marry a Thai..
    That's one of the things I was referring to. It's incessant. As soon as they find out she's married to a Farang, the questioning starts, from all angles. Either they want to meet a farang, or their sister wants to, or they're thinking she's got money and a good person to know, blah bah.

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    She does have money, but above all else,, she has me,,, lucky girl.

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    BG, I'm sorry to say, but it's time to take that beer bottle our of your naval. It's causing delusions of grandeur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    my wife changed heres the time we registered and had her new ID card made, she has had no problems with my name on her IDs.
    So did my wife. As well as on the passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    BG, I'm sorry to say, but it's time to take that beer bottle our of your naval. It's causing delusions of grandeur.
    Whadda ya mean "Your Naval" Don't ya see the fine tits on that broad??

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    I almost started a new thread abut this.....

    I want to ask if anyone knows about what I just heard last night. A friend of mine told me that when a Thai woman marries a farang and takes his last name. she can't own property in Thailand, she can't use the 30 baht insurance scheme (which we do not want anyhow), and also loses other rights as a Thai citizen. He even said that his wife had to sell some property she owned before they met when she took his name.

    I told him sone of it was true, and he kept insisting that it was.

    Any input from you guys??

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    I think I might have misunderstood the OP.

    Are you inquiring about a

    quick-marriage question
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    quick marriage-question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    I almost started a new thread abut this.....

    I want to ask if anyone knows about what I just heard last night. A friend of mine told me that when a Thai woman marries a farang and takes his last name. she can't own property in Thailand, she can't use the 30 baht insurance scheme (which we do not want anyhow), and also loses other rights as a Thai citizen. He even said that his wife had to sell some property she owned before they met when she took his name.

    I told him sone of it was true, and he kept insisting that it was.

    Any input from you guys??
    used to be true, but its changed now is my understanding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    Thanks a lot chinthee.

    My advice is that if you're going to be traveling a lot internationally, or perhaps living in the west for some periods do the name change. If you're staying in Thailand, she's better off with her Thai name.
    Absolutely. It makes registering property, getting a driver's license etc easier.
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    ^I understand it that way too. Old law.

    Not sure about the 30B healthcare as I'm not interested in it.

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    30baht health care is still available for a thai married to a farang

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    If it ever was, It changed more than 7 years ago and there is no difference between a Thai married to a Farang than to a Thai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    Thanks a lot chinthee.

    My advice is that if you're going to be traveling a lot internationally, or perhaps living in the west for some periods do the name change. If you're staying in Thailand, she's better off with her Thai name.
    Absolutely. It makes registering property, getting a driver's license etc easier.

    It makes no difference at all, in our experience

    What is yours?

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