Tabien Baan, what the purpose

**Rural Surin** · 13-01-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

William's probably the one to ask about all of this - haven't seen him posting lately though?

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to seek legal counsel just for security troubleshooting and peace of mind.

**DrivingForce** · 13-01-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

not sure how it might benefit them.

I think some of that has been noted already..not the frail ones you noted of your missus mind you..but the more alarming ones.

**spiff** · 13-01-2009, 03:41 PM

They must have managed to be registered and vote before you built the house somehow?

**nidhogg** · 13-01-2009, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

One of them has a wife and kid and another is getting married in April -- wonder if the whole village is invited? ... it's an evil, snowball.

Not an expert (by any means), but there are some ramification. If they want to send the kid to a school near you, having the name on the papers makes it easier (they are supposed to school in the district where they are on house papers).

They are defiately a legal document, and every once in a while my missus has to produce her house papers, which means a trip back home to get them (up country).

I do know we are not on our landladys papers (was mentioned some times), and from what I can gather landowners don't normally (YMMV) put tenants on the house papers.

But as said, being on them defines you legal residence, and I agree with your caution.

**Texpat** · 13-01-2009, 03:52 PM

Yes. They're all renters, though. One lives in Bangkok, another in Chon Buri.

They're all registered in a local house here, since long ago before ma and pa died, that will be vacated by brother #2 in April when he gets married. I suspect my wife wants to do them a favor by consolidating all the chicks on one tabien baan. Hers. Generous and considerate sentiment, but typically shortsighted.

It's all very neat and tidy in her mind and she neither understands legal implications nor gives them any thought. This is Thailand and laws don't mean squat. Unless you're a farang and some Thais are imposing their will on you. Then laws are the final arbiter -- gospel.

She's conceded not to push the issue (for today) and I'm sure to come across looking like a giant asshole, but I don't much care. I told her we can revisit the issue when our other paperwork is complete.

**Spin** · 13-01-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

She does not have a will.
Working on getting the 30-year lease.
No benefit to me -- not sure how it might benefit them.

A visit to a lawyer is on the horizon perhaps?

A lease and a will for each of you (if you dont alreay have one)?

Sorry if it sounds like im implying anything sinister is about to happen, thats not my intention at all. A lease a will are good things to have as a married guy in Thailand.

**Texpat** · 13-01-2009, 03:59 PM

I've always had a will. She never had much to will anybody until the house was finished.

**DrivingForce** · 13-01-2009, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

It's all very neat and tidy in her mind and she neither understands legal implications nor gives them any thought. This is Thailand and laws don't mean squat. Unless you're a farang and some Thais are imposing their will on you. Then laws are the final arbiter -- gospel.

that is so very true.. The place we used to rent a car from never understood why I didn't want a car with a red tag on it due to the restrictions, "oh! you can just tell the police officer, it's OK!" never once thinking how that affects a farang then one time they rented us a car that didn't really have renters insurance it was rented by a friend not through the company when I had to drive through an immigration check point to reach our destination. "if they ask?" he says "just tell them you borrowed it from your friend" and yet I don't have a clue what the "friends" name is or any minor information like maybe where they even live? the thing that really galled me was how I found out about this was when I asked my wife some questions and we were already on the road for about half an hour and she told me as we were approaching the check point, now not to look suspicious, like you said they don't consider these things in the least..

**AntRobertson** · 13-01-2009, 04:08 PM

I think the advice to consult a lawyer's spot on.

I wouldn't have any qualms about putting my wifes siblings on the Tabien Baan but then she only has one sister and she's hot.

**dirtydog** · 13-01-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I'm sure to come across looking like a giant asshole

I am sure you are used to that by now so that shouldn't worry you

**Bung** · 13-01-2009, 08:09 PM

Tex, do you have your yellow book yet? If not you should try and get it. It's not a huge improvement but worth having all the same for bank accounts, cars etc.

I wouldn't put those guys on your wifes book, as stated if they get in big trouble they will come knocking on your door to find them. Who needs cops pulling into your driveway? (esp. Thai ones!)

Do you have any other land kicking around? If so you can get a book set up for that and put them on there, just need to build a shack on it. I've got a plot up in the hills and am doing that for my useless BIL. Someone needs to be on it and he's not on one yet.

**chitown** · 13-01-2009, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I'm sure to come across looking like a giant asshole

Great! maybe they will get the hint! Anyhow join the club. I just told my wife's family they are banned from my house!!!

**Bung** · 13-01-2009, 08:15 PM

I just asked my mrs as she says it would be no problem, can't make any trouble for you doing it.

(I still wouldn't do it.....)

**chitown** · 13-01-2009, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

I wouldn't put those guys on your wifes book, as stated if they get in big trouble they will come knocking on your door to find them. Who needs cops pulling into your driveway? (esp. Thai ones!)

Tex, this is always a possibility if they are listed on your wife's house registration.
We have a relative that has a son that is a yabba dealer and was on her house registration but not living there. One day the BIB showed up looking for him and ended up coming in the house and ransacking the place looking for yabba. They flipped furniture over and destroyed personal items of innocent people. Even threatened a grandparent with jail time if she did not tell them where he was.

**blackgang** · 13-01-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

I just asked my mrs as she says it would be no problem, can't make any trouble for you doing it. (I still wouldn't do it.....)

I just asked my wife too, and she said no problems, her son is on grandmas book, and she said you have to be on a book, and I said if thats the law then if they do not live there and you put them on it it is fraud, so now she is pissed at me and wandered off and not talking. And the reason is because it is logical to think that, but Thai do not think, logically or otherwise.
I had my yellow book, went to CM and they took my book here and put me on my landlady's book there, so now I have to go get my book back with my new address on it.
But I would not let them assholes on my house book, well it not your house without a lease, but anyway not on the book for a house I paid for at least.
I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

**Boon Mee** · 13-01-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

Got that right...

**spiff** · 13-01-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

It's all very neat and tidy in her mind and she neither understands legal implications nor gives them any thought. This is Thailand and laws don't mean squat. Unless you're a farang and some Thais are imposing their will on you. Then laws are the final arbiter -- gospel.

In a nutshell - yes.
Don't put yourself unnecessarily in a legal disadvantage, we need every inch we can get, just in case.

**BigRed** · 13-01-2009, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by blackgang

I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

Got that right...

It amazes me that so many Americans are prepared to marry Thais and live in their country then keep spouting racist remarks about them. Of course, blackgang gives the impression he hates everyone not from his town in the good old US of A, plus anyone with a darker skin even if they are from his town. I can imagine him sitting on the porch of his compound with the electrified fence around it cleaning his gun collection and hoping a trespasser comes by.

**blackgang** · 13-01-2009, 09:44 PM

They aren't no ones with dark skin in the town I am from, we got rid of the only one that ever came there back in 1936, ain't been none brave enough to stop since.
and I don't have no compound fence, I am good enough I can shoot you between your backward looking eyes at 500 yards.
But then sorry cocksuckers ain't brave enough to come there eirher, so ya pobly safe.

**spiff** · 13-01-2009, 09:45 PM

^^
I imagine him like this, too.
But he's too old now, couldn't turn the computer off without help from the nurse.

And too poor to go an live amongst white people in a civilised country.

**Rural Surin** · 13-01-2009, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by Texpat

I'm sure to come across looking like a giant asshole

Great! maybe they will get the hint! Anyhow join the club. I just told my wife's family they are banned from my house!!!

How hospitable and civilized. Those vacancies of social and familial extentions might catch up with you some day...

**Rural Surin** · 13-01-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Bung

I just asked my mrs as she says it would be no problem, can't make any trouble for you doing it. (I still wouldn't do it.....)

I just asked my wife too, and she said no problems, her son is on grandmas book, and she said you have to be on a book, and I said if thats the law then if they do not live there and you put them on it it is fraud, so now she is pissed at me and wandered off and not talking. And the reason is because it is logical to think that, but Thai do not think, logically or otherwise.
I had my yellow book, went to CM and they took my book here and put me on my landlady's book there, so now I have to go get my book back with my new address on it.
But I would not let them assholes on my house book, well it not your house without a lease, but anyway not on the book for a house I paid for at least.
I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

Don't you mean to add that Thais dont consider Western logic? Which we all know is the universal standard for reason.

**Boon Mee** · 13-01-2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigRed

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by blackgang

I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

Got that right...

It amazes me that so many Americans are prepared to marry Thais and live in their country then keep spouting racist remarks about them. Of course, blackgang gives the impression he hates everyone not from his town in the good old US of A, plus anyone with a darker skin even if they are from his town. I can imagine him sitting on the porch of his compound with the electrified fence around it cleaning his gun collection and hoping a trespasser comes by.

Red..."trust" is a real slippery substance in Asia. Don't know how long you've lived in Thailand or environs but "trust" does not mean the same. Of course stroller will weigh in now with his famous, or should I say infamous exestential-ist point of view on the whole subject...

**Rural Surin** · 13-01-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by BigRed

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by blackgang

I don't trust none of these fucking Thai.

Got that right...

It amazes me that so many Americans are prepared to marry Thais and live in their country then keep spouting racist remarks about them. Of course, blackgang gives the impression he hates everyone not from his town in the good old US of A, plus anyone with a darker skin even if they are from his town. I can imagine him sitting on the porch of his compound with the electrified fence around it cleaning his gun collection and hoping a trespasser comes by.

He's not unique....but common amongst the American set. This could even be considered the norm here amongst Farang {generally speaking}. You'd never know it here, by absorbing poster's rants.

**spiff** · 14-01-2009, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Don't you mean to add that Thais dont consider Western logic? Which we all know is the universal standard for reason.

Yeh, didn't you know?

A farang has a bad weekend, and the inlaws are so inconsiderate they order noodle-soup while he's having a leak at the end of the day, so they are "banned" from his house.

Logic and reason, no?

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