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    Cutting Teak Trees

    We have a plot of land, that we're going to clear for a new build.

    The land has five big teak trees on, and we have been informed by the local Tree feller, that we have to pay 1,000 baht and local govt official will come along and stamp the tree(s), we then have to wait 1yr and 5 months and then can cut.

    Alternatively we can also pay a sweetener and have the trees cut down quickly.

    Due to the present govt paying the sweetener could it get us into trouble.?

    Anyone know if its 1,000 per tree.?

    Anyone have any experience with cutting Teak.?

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    Shouldn't of mentioned to anyone.
    Word gets around quick.

    Just cut 'em - take your chances.
    Fuck the criminal authorities.

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    No chance of doing it like that, we cleared land a few years ago, and the land had a couple of very small teak on it, one of the local save the world pratts threatened to report us, the PYB talked him around.

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    Shame to cut them down unless oyou want the wood.
    Can design around them?

    or sell them to be relocated?

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    Isn't it illegal to fell trees that are on Sor Por Gor land? That was always my understanding.

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    We will use the wood for the build.

    Many things illegal in Thailand just have to get the right person, to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    We will use the wood for the build.
    There ya go - that'll work.

    Still have to grease the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Can design around them?
    Trees offer loads of shade and will keep your house cool.......is Necron99 suggestion a possibility??

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    We are going to use chumping Bamboo as fencing, there's trees on the side of the land that will provide cover, the teak will be used as supports. where trying to go eco friendly no concrete.

    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Can design around them?
    Trees offer loads of shade and will keep your house cool.......is Necron99 suggestion a possibility??

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    Tread carefully, everyone will take a kick back and say ok until you get arrested by someone else.
    If you have a forestry department near go see them, be legal.
    Illegal longing carry's jail time and it's a hot crime at the moment and you can't grease everybody, too many.
    Not just felling the tree is illegal, but moving the lumber carry's time, anyone of a number of agencies can arrest you for it.

    I'm in an illegal logging area and people won't even move old teak boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Can design around them?
    Trees offer loads of shade and will keep your house cool.......is Necron99 suggestion a possibility??
    Many varieties of trees are beneficial for shading......yet, teak isn't one of them - grows nearly vertical without great branching.

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    ^^ Good advice.
    It's not like paying your way out of a traffic stop.
    Especially as you seem to have some busybodies in the area already

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    James/Necron thats why were taking it slowly, want to make sure everythings above board.

    Don't fancy doing time, then again hmm wouldn't it be the wife its in her name.



    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Tread carefully, everyone will take a kick back and say ok until you get arrested by someone else.
    If you have a forestry department near go see them, be legal.
    Illegal longing carry's jail time and it's a hot crime at the moment and you can't grease everybody, too many.
    Not just felling the tree is illegal, but moving the lumber carry's time, anyone of a number of agencies can arrest you for it.

    I'm in an illegal logging area and people won't even move old teak boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    Don't fancy doing time, then again hmm wouldn't it be the wife its in her name.
    This is Thailand, get caught, confess and blame everyone else.
    Who's the pay master, you, you evil farang, taking advantage of poor ignorant Thais.

    Best all round, keep out of things, be a stupid farang, don't be involved, be it lumber, land, druggy family members, guns or family disputes.
    Your the village idiot, no one even knows your there, like a soi dog, not noticed.

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    I wonder why there are laws against cutting down some times of tree..........

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    ^Here's a funny story in 1976 there was a military coup and they started clearing forests, because the rebel forces had settled in the teak forests for protection.

    hmm likely story

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    ^Here's a funny story in 1976 there was a military coup and they started clearing forests, because the rebel forces had settled in the teak forests for protection.

    hmm likely story

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s
    And that is relevant to you cutting down some more ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    We are going to use chumping Bamboo as fencing, there's trees on the side of the land that will provide cover, the teak will be used as supports. where trying to go eco friendly no concrete.

    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Can design around them?
    Trees offer loads of shade and will keep your house cool.......is Necron99 suggestion a possibility??
    If you are trying to go eco friendly, I would use Necron' suggestion. Design around the trees and incorporate them into the landscaping. Nothing more eco friendly than that.

    You also will not have the worry about someone wanting money for cutting them down or reporting you because you did not pay. Better to not have anything the locals can use against you for any reason.

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    What 5 trees.? thats going to really hurt the Eco system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    ^Here's a funny story in 1976 there was a military coup and they started clearing forests, because the rebel forces had settled in the teak forests for protection.

    hmm likely story

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s
    And that is relevant to you cutting down some more ?

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    James Can't do there in the position of the planned home,plus the timber will be Eco friendly on the wallet as well for the build.


    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    We are going to use chumping Bamboo as fencing, there's trees on the side of the land that will provide cover, the teak will be used as supports. where trying to go eco friendly no concrete.

    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Can design around them?
    Trees offer loads of shade and will keep your house cool.......is Necron99 suggestion a possibility??
    If you are trying to go eco friendly, I would use Necron' suggestion. Design around the trees and incorporate them into the landscaping. Nothing more eco friendly than that.

    You also will not have the worry about someone wanting money for cutting them down or reporting you because you did not pay. Better to not have anything the locals can use against you for any reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    ^Here's a funny story in 1976 there was a military coup and they started clearing forests, because the rebel forces had settled in the teak forests for protection.

    hmm likely story

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s
    And that is relevant to you cutting down some more ?


    Teak and other trees are protected to stop people cutting down the native forests..

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    Thats true because there's only certain persons allowed to make money from the teak trade.

    Teak Trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    ^Here's a funny story in 1976 there was a military coup and they started clearing forests, because the rebel forces had settled in the teak forests for protection.

    hmm likely story

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s
    And that is relevant to you cutting down some more ?


    Teak and other trees are protected to stop people cutting down the native forests..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post

    The British raped the land and formed a teak empire in the late 1800s
    ...in Burma and Malaya, perhaps.

    Though, the attempts to establish such a foothold here were largely in vain.
    The 2-3 British interests in teak [in particular] were highly restricted and limited by the good Chulalongkorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    We have a plot of land, that we're going to clear for a new build.
    Is the land title a Chanote? If so should be ok to cut. Better safe than sorry. Go check at your Or Bor Tor.

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    Thanks, yes it has Chanote.

    Any problems if i pay the sweetener rather than waiting, its just as you know some of the offices like to give you the runaround., better to go with knowledge.

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