Thread: Thai Driving Licence

Originally Posted by Thetyim

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Yes, I have my Tabien Baan number on my thai DL.
They put it on without asking me.
It wasn't until I read this thread that I realised where the number came from.

That's good to know, thanks.

Off topic but that yellow book number went also to my kid's birth certificate, first kid cert has passport number but second has yellow book number.

Makes it easier to explain when passport numbers change. I reckon this applies to bank accounts as well...


Edit: at the time first kid was born i didn't have the yellow book...

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

The question to ask yourself is this:

If my passport number changes and doesn't match that of my Thai driving licence reference, is my Thai licence actually a VALID driving licence if not updated? Same-same for you address.

The posters above are right in the sense that no cop is going to check those details if he pulls you over. But he's not the one to worry about. The "rubber really hits the road" when you have an accident and your insurance says "sorry - Thai licence not valid since you change Passport, address," etc.

Here's another for those of you driving on foreign licences when you haven't actually lived in that jusridiction for many years. Your licence AIN'T valid. Neither the insurance company nor the issuing jurisdiction is going to support you if there's an accident. You are driving with an INVALID licence. And if I were the claims investigator/adjuster at Avis, Herts, Thairentaccar, wherever - your validity would be the FIRST thing I'd check up on. Using your brother's address or that of Uncle Sammy ain't going to work in that event.

All insurance states that you must be driving with a "valid" licence. No valid licence? You're not covered and never were. Food for thought in'it?

Where did u hear this? I have not lived at the address on my thai license for over 12 years. MY insurance has my current address and i have had claims a total of 3 times in the last 12 years.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

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Yes, I have my Tabien Baan number on my thai DL.
They put it on without asking me.
It wasn't until I read this thread that I realised where the number came from.

Where??
i am on my third 5 year license an there is no taam Bien baan number on it.

MY license number
Name
passport number
date of birth
issued date
expire date
Provence ( phuket)
In thai and english

Originally Posted by Phuketrichard

Where??
i am on my third 5 year license an there is no taam Bien baan number on it.

Bottom right hand corner where it says ID Number

If you haven't got a tapien baan then they use your passport number

As Dr Andy or someone above pointed out, it's the line on your licence that (hang on while I get the new one out).. ok it's in Thai - but on the new bilingual licences it's the reference line below your birthdate.Or on the bottom line (in Eng) your "ID" number.

Yep - that's why I went to the licencing office. My licence has my old passport number on it. They told me don't worry, but now you're telling me my licence and hence insurance is invalid. I need some proof to show them on Tuesday in order for them to issue me a new licence - they say I don't need a new one.

No the Land Dept don't give a shit about your insurance. Why would they? I'm saying you risk having an invalid licence as deemed by your insurance company if you have no entitlement to live in Thailand. Again, this is why they Land Dept asks you that pain in the ass question about work permit. As others have said above if you have a right to remain in the Kingdom of Thailand (e.g. as your home most of the year) then you have a right/obligation to a Thai Driving Licence. If you don't have a right to live here, and if I were your claims adjuster on the other guy's insurance company, I'd go after that.

Originally Posted by Phuketrichard

My name is on the back of the taam bien baan for my house (the real one not yellow copy)
i have no taam bien baan number on my Thai license an have owned my house for over 10 years.
MY OLD passport number ( id number on my license at the bottom) is on my NEW Thai license and have had an accident with this license and the insurance covered it all

Did you use your passport for ID or your Tabien Baan ?

Originally Posted by Phuketrichard

My name is on the back of the taam bien baan for my house (the real one not yellow copy)

Now this is interesting.
Please can you tell me if you have been allocated an ID number or is it blank ?

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Has less to do with your Thai address on a Thai licence and more to do with trying to use a foreign licence to drive in Thailand or another country if you haven't lived in that foreign jurisdiction for many years. But still - the Thai licence is also an issue- because it is granted to you provided you have the right to remain in Thailand. That's why they ask for all the supporting documents. You are indeed required to update your licence if the situation changes (like you change your passport, etc).

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

No the Land Dept don't give a shit about your insurance. Why would they? I'm saying you risk having an invalid licence as deemed by your insurance company if you have no entitlement to live in Thailand. Again, this is why they Land Dept asks you that pain in the ass question about work permit. As others have said above if you have a right to remain in the Kingdom of Thailand (e.g. as your home most of the year) then you have a right/obligation to a Thai Driving Licence. If you don't have a right to live here, and if I were your claims adjuster on the other guy's insurance company, I'd go after that.

is all that something you have been told by someone, or do you actually have any links to back it up?

sounds very unlikely unless you are mixing things up a bit

Originally Posted by Phuketrichard

My name is on the back of the taam bien baan for my house (the real one not yellow copy)
i have no taam bien baan number on my Thai license an have owned my house for over 10 years.
MY OLD passport number ( id number on my license at the bottom) is on my NEW Thai license and have had an accident with this license and the insurance covered it all

Your name in the blue book (tabien baan) is there most likely as father of a thai national child registered into that address or as having building permit on your name etc. Or are do you have permanent residency in Thailand ?

Please note tabien baan, blue or yellow does not indicate ownership of the property. It is just shows who is registered to live in that address.

So foreigners are not allowed to register their official address in blue tabien baan unless they hold permanent resident status but some cases your name might appear somewhere in the document. But not as you being registered in that address which is what matters when dealing with government.

For insurances then. It's not that black and white. What TS is saying is that insurance policies require you to have valid DL. Now using home country, home country + international extended periods or thai DL with outdated data on it just might be considered by insurance companies as driving without valid DL.

So you take a risk that some day the insurance company decides not to pay due to this. Regardless if they have paid previously they could use the clause later on. So if you want to be 100% update your address and passport/ID/tabien baan number.

Originally Posted by Gallowspole

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

You are indeed required to update your licence if the situation changes (like you change your passport, etc).

They told me I didn't need to do that but you are saying I was required to. Please link.

I'll check with my insurance companies tomorrow, but it would be nice to have your proof to back me up.

The Land Transport Dept at Paholyothin Road TOLD me I needed to update the info as they would check it against the licence at renewal, which I was about to do (and so I complied with that). You need to get a letter from your Embassy that says the new passport replaces the old one and indicates both numbers old and new. The Land Transport woman told me I risked invalidation and denial of renewal without following this. So get your insurance company to put their reply to your questions in writing - or better still just follow the rules.

Reply from my insurance company about my Licence not having my current passport number and is at a different address from my residential one (address is my work address, same address where all my shit is "registered" at. Work permit/bank accounts (Thai and OZ) car registration Insurance's (car/Scooter/life) etc etc etc).

The reply was licence is valid so no concern to them.

never had to show my thai license and have a cop ask for my passport.. :-)

Originally Posted by Mojo

Originally Posted by Phuketrichard

My name is on the back of the taam bien baan for my house (the real one not yellow copy)
i have no taam bien baan number on my Thai license an have owned my house for over 10 years.
MY OLD passport number ( id number on my license at the bottom) is on my NEW Thai license and have had an accident with this license and the insurance covered it all

Your name in the blue book (tabien baan) is there most likely as father of a thai national child registered into that address or as having building permit on your name etc. Or are do you have permanent residency in Thailand ?

Please note tabien baan, blue or yellow does not indicate ownership of the property. It is just shows who is registered to live in that address.

So foreigners are not allowed to register their official address in blue tabien baan unless they hold permanent resident status but some cases your name might appear somewhere in the document. But not as you being registered in that address which is what matters when dealing with government.

For insurances then. It's not that black and white. What TS is saying is that insurance policies require you to have valid DL. Now using home country, home country + international extended periods or thai DL with outdated data on it just might be considered by insurance companies as driving without valid DL.

So you take a risk that some day the insurance company decides not to pay due to this. Regardless if they have paid previously they could use the clause later on. So if you want to be 100% update your address and passport/ID/tabien baan number.

Just;

My taam bien baan has no ones name on it not my ex or my daughter. My name is listed on the back page, I had the building permit issued in my name

AS to license, when u get ur license, ( or buy a bike or car) u need verify ur address at immigration. I do this with the Taam bien baan which has my name in it ( i just did this last week when i brought a new bike)
My drivers license has my Passport number as ID AND the address is Phuket,( expires 2018)

I have had numerous claims on my insurance and never ever ay questions asked

Wait until you have to renew your 5 year licence. Things are slightly different. That is if all things are equal.