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    I don't wish to sound silly, and I probably will, but with a good enough roof overhang you won't need glass.

    Go for a big overhang then just put mozzie net and maybe a bit of a grill if you're paranoid.

    Glass IMHO is vastly over rated.

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    One of the newer and more popular materials used for windows is uPVC – widely used worldwide but a relatively new product here. The advantages of uPVC in a tropical climate over wood and aluminum are many.

    When choosing uPVC windows it is important to determine the source of the material - buyer beware, as with all construction materials there are cheap imports available from China that do not perform well and do not match European specification.

    uPVC windows are factory manufactured with fusion welded corners and joints which are fully waterproof.

    uPVC windows can be either made to measure to cement openings or “wet installed” which has an advantage in terms of installation cost and overall effect. In a wet installation, the windows are installed into the concrete blocks before cement render and plaster is applied.

    Durability – uPVC windows are designed to last for your property’s lifetime. They never need painting and will look as good as new for decades.

    Waterproofing – they are fully resistant to strong tropical rain and remain leak proof through even the most violent storms.

    Pollution – with no adverse effects from the chemical pollution found in cities and industrial areas, PVCu Windows will stay clear and bright after many years.

    Salt Water – Seawater and spray have no effect on PVCu Windows and Doors.

    Sunlight – designed for maximum UV and Infrared resistance, – PVCu windows have been used in the Middle East, Singapore and tropical USA for the last 3 decades.

    Humidity – uPVC windows will not warp, rot or break down in humid climates.

    Wind – ideally suited to seaside locations and for use in high-rise buildings, uPVC windows maintain their strength through fully reinforced galvanised steel inner frames.

    Noise Reduction – the double-seal system in uPVC windows and doors combined with insulating glass greatly reduces noise down to 1/8 of the original noise level(33-43dB).

    Termites – such creatures often destroy wooden windows and wooden sub frames for aluminum windows in tropical climates, but ants and termites cannot attack uPVC.

    Fire – PVCu is self-extinguishing – it will not catch fire and will not allow fire to spread. Profiles are manufactured under DIN 18 830 standard.

    uPVC windows and doors can be double glazed with insulating glass which has further advantages when considering air-conditioning costs and reducing outside noise.

    Aluminium is cheaper than uPVC but its disadvantages can be seen in time. The cheaper aluminium systems available in Thailand do not stand the test of time. Aluminium used is nearly always very thin which means that locks and fittings become loose in time, they squeak and get sticky and when used near the sea, the salt water corrodes the aluminium at the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    Noise Reduction – the double-seal system in uPVC windows and doors combined with insulating glass greatly reduces noise down to 1/8 of the original noise level(33-43dB).
    Not if they are sliding type!

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    ^^ You gotta franchise or somat ?

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    rehau windows,good quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    thanks for the link Jizzy ,, thats really opened me eyes up .. I never realised this choice was available here ,that wrvinyl.com looks the biz
    I had just installed 20 windows including 4 sliding doors,all windows including insect screens, and 3 steel enforced full panel doors.Total glass surface is 44 Sqm green tinted from which 15 Sqm double glazed.All windows and doors have multi lock system.Total price was just under 250.000 Baht.Supplier was WR Vinyl.His price was about 35 % lower as his nearest competitor and that wasn't Windsor since I didn't feel the need to even ask a quotation from that company.
    WR Vinyl is the only supplier that extrudes his own profiles to a German standard,all others buy or import their profiles.No profiles are imported from Europe because all the important European companies produce in China.

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    Thanks for that escaped ,that is sound info ,, you cannot beat personal recomendations ..
    I will be a bit green to say the least when i begin to build ,, so any help like this is most appreciated.
    I am lucky in one respect having very carefully inspected a lot of work in various stages from a local builder we are gonna use ,, he has actually become a social friend of ours ( lets hope its still that way after the build ) and speaks very good English which is a bonus
    I'm proud of my 38" waist , also proud I have never done drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    Thanks for that escaped ,that is sound info ,, you cannot beat personal recomendations ..
    I will be a bit green to say the least when i begin to build ,, so any help like this is most appreciated.
    I am lucky in one respect having very carefully inspected a lot of work in various stages from a local builder we are gonna use ,, he has actually become a social friend of ours ( lets hope its still that way after the build ) and speaks very good English which is a bonus
    Where are you building? sounds like near to Khon Kean? if so kindly keep us updated as I will be looking for a builder up there - oneday....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sues2
    Prior to purchasing they demonstrated the effectiveness and I could not break even with a 4 pound hammer.
    You use a center punch with a small hammer if you want to break glass.

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    ^ Thanks DD, handy little tip for next time I am window shopping

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    Inch or so away from one of the corners so there is less flex to get your first crack

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    I don't wish to sound silly, and I probably will, but with a good enough roof overhang you won't need glass. Go for a big overhang then just put mozzie net and maybe a bit of a grill if you're paranoid. Glass IMHO is vastly over rated.
    I think most people in this thread want aircon, so think they need glass

    I agree with you, I don't have much glass in my place

    I have large wooden shutters which work well; just close them and the aircon would work well

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    You use a center punch with a small hammer if you want to break glass
    you can break the laminated glass but not the plastic sandwich
    I have reported your post

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    I was also thinking of recommending on the house I mentioned above was installing UPVC roller shutters.

    I used to have them on my last house in England good for security and insulation especially in England.

    This house we will be doing would have a security issue it is a bit isolated and the guys will not live here all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo
    Where are you building?
    Not KK mate ( too many " distractions " there for me from the past ) no it will be in the Udon / Ban Dung area . The wife does own some land here also has some in the Phon Phisai area some canalled land which I really like the idea of as I am a grow your own type person , but I really wanna check out the high tide makrs on this land ,, I think in reallity its a no go er
    Sorry forgot to say will def keep you posted ,,,,,,,, I will PM you mate as and when we get rolling , it wont be just yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    but I really wanna check out the high tide makrs on this land ,, I think in reallity its a no go er
    just ask one of the old people who live there "when was the last time you remember it flooding?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    When choosing uPVC windows it is important to determine the source of the material - buyer beware, as with all construction materials there are cheap imports available from China that do not perform well and do not match European specification.
    Plastic being an oil based product will always be prone to warp-age and discolouring especially when exposed to the sun.

    No matter how much UV stabilizer you add after a while you will have problems and nobody in the industry has ever been able to convince me otherwise or offer me written long-term guarantees.

    The more you can shade these window frames and doors the longer they will last before problems set in.

    Yes, and the shit coming in from China is exactly that.

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    I had a coffee making machine, just a cheapo drip one from tesco, it used to live by the window but no direct sunlight, couple of weeks ago I thought I would have some proper coffee, as I picked it up basically everything that was plastic on it just crumbled away, it now lives at the Pattaya City dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    it now lives at the Pattaya City dump.
    And the motto of this story is ,,,,,,,,dont build windows from old coffee machines ,,,,,,,,,, mind you I am suprised one of the local bin recyclers didnt get to it before it met its resting place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    When choosing uPVC windows it is important to determine the source of the material - buyer beware, as with all construction materials there are cheap imports available from China that do not perform well and do not match European specification.
    Plastic being an oil based product will always be prone to warp-age and discolouring especially when exposed to the sun.

    No matter how much UV stabilizer you add after a while you will have problems and nobody in the industry has ever been able to convince me otherwise or offer me written long-term guarantees.

    The more you can shade these window frames and doors the longer they will last before problems set in.

    Yes, and the shit coming in from China is exactly that.
    But the U in Upvc stands for unplasticized not for UV stabilizer.

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    you get a 20 year guarantee on those windows in the UK

    but there is not much sun to worry about there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    you get a 20 year guarantee on those windows in the UK

    but there is not much sun to worry about there
    Overhere you will be ok with the 10 year guarantee because you may call yourself lucky when your construction survives those years

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    Plastic coated joinery never used in australia-rubbish in the long term.
    Go for powder coated aluminium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cambtek View Post
    Plastic coated joinery never used in australia-rubbish in the long term.
    Go for powder coated aluminium.
    we are thinking to change our windows/doors the wooden ones are starting to warp and look like shit after only 20months,i bought the wife a ladder and cleaning kit but the wood is very hard to get clean,anyone knows a good co.to supply/fit powder coated aluminium need a total of about 30 windows/doors.korat area.

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    my wooden windows are ancient and still look good

    you must have bought some crap wood frames!

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    windows/doors

    the house is a new build if i had seen them put in i would have told them to change the whole lot,but i was in the uk when the house was built.

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