Thread: Security Cam's

> Just buy heaps of camera shells and stick them all over the
> property and as a visual deterrent.

No, punish the thieves. Make the neighborhood safer for everyone. Cheap and easy with sim card security cameras. Perhaps the best benefit of all is the wonderful peace of mind you get when you are away.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Just buy heaps of camera shells and stick them all over the property and as a visual deterrent.

Most thieves are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Prolly wouldn't even notice the camera shells.

Been burgled twice and I see no deterrent available that will stop a determined thief. The more security one has emphasizes that you have something worth protecting.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Been burgled twice and I see no deterrent available that will stop a determined thief. The more security one has emphasizes that you have something worth protecting.

As you know now once you have been targeted statistically there is a high chance that you will be targeted again. Because there is something about your property that makes it attractive to would be criminals.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Been burgled twice and I see no deterrent available that will stop a determined thief. The more security one has emphasizes that you have something worth protecting.

Defeatist attitude. You may not be able to stop them, but you sure can catch them, punish them, and get compensated and all your stuff back with relative ease. This will also get the word out your house is not to be messed with. Security cameras do not need to be visible and I prefer keeping them well hidden. For ultra lazy people, just plop a single SIM card camera inside the house somewhere and turn it on when you are away. As easy as turning on a room light at night. When you get an instant picture of the intruder on your mobile phone, that's when the fun begins. And on the other days of your life away from home you can lean back and relax wherever you are and know your house is totally safe.

Originally Posted by canopy

just plop a single SIM card camera inside the house somewhere and turn it on when you are away. As easy as turning on a room light at night.

And you'd have to have a light on for the camera to take a night picture cus there's a high chance you'd be burgled at night.

How it works around here with burglaries is it's carried out by roaming gangs that come around about every fourth year. The locals don't shit in their own nest as the police would pick them up straight away.
Anyway, the gang does a few local house and then moves on and the burglaries stop. About 4 years later..........

Originally Posted by canopy

Such cameras have night vision. They take pictures in complete darkness 50 feet away using infrared flash technology. The infrared flash is invisible.
And for further purposes of understanding, such cameras trigger by infrared, not motion sensing. So a lightning flash or shadow will never set it off. And you can adjust the sensitivity so that a cat won't set it off but a person will.

Canopy, can you recommend a specific type or brand for me to start to do a bit of research? My house is pre-wired for cameras, but I have yet to buy a system. I am open to ideas. Thanks

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Originally Posted by canopy

There is large number of brands and models of these so called "trail cameras" that I have discussed here. If you want a specific recommendation, then maybe the Acorn ltl-6310mg would be suitable. It's new generation and high end. There are different variants you can choose like a wide angle lens or extra long flash, though the latter makes a visible red glow when it flashes. I see them at about 9000 baht including shipping to Thailand on dhgate. You can also get 6310's without SIM card capability for a lot less--this type just stores the pictures on the internal SD card.

Originally Posted by canopy

As far as Wi-FI cameras, no thanks! Need to have a computer running for that, but some people will like that. The beauty of the trail cameras is they are totally standalone and not tethered. You can place them indoors, outdoors in the rain, off-grid, where there is no internet connection, just wherever you want. There's nothing more to do. The camouflage designs work pretty well outdoors. Sometimes I show people around and they've walked by them within a few feet on trees and don't notice them.
And to be frank, the ancient stuff I see sold at Thai security stores belongs in a museum. Have never seen trail cameras or even indoor cameras like these. Hence, I buy elsewhere.

Thanks so much for this great info Canopy. Now I may look for something when I go back to the States in May.

"trail cameras" look good for catching the perpetrators of local village pilfering. Like stealing bamboo, mangoes or fish or... but they won't exactly stop anyone braking into a house and stealing a TV or a bicycle or worse.

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

"trail cameras" look good for catching the perpetrators of local village pilfering. Like stealing bamboo, mangoes or fish or... but they won't exactly stop anyone braking into a house and stealing a TV or a bicycle or worse.

So you are suggesting there are cameras that will stop an actual break and enter ?

There are cameras that call you on your phone and play actual real time pics if are burgled. You can even talk to the crook.

There is no such thing as perfect security anywhere in the world. But a simple trail camera can catch thieves in the act giving a high likelihood of successful apprehension either as the crime occurs or afterwards. At least that's my experience with them. We live in the 21st century so this is cheap and easy. And as I have said twice already, just the peace of mind your place is untouched wherever you may be is incredibly nice.

Canopy is spot on in that the stuff in Thai security shops is outdated. JPPR... Since you are still back in the USA, stop at Frys and load up. That is always a stop for me!

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Originally Posted by canopy

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I have to say being an avid hunter I have used the above trail cameras and they work exceptionally good and are low maintenance. They don't protect you ( no camera protects anyone) but they do give you some very good pictures to at least take some action.

One thing very clear to me is I am not going to have my life revolve around theft and burglary worries. What will happen, will happen. Its just material crap and can all be replaced. I live at the end of a street in a mooban. Everybody who lives by us have been in that area for 30 to 75 years and know my FIL. I will add basic protection items but not much more. With my FIL on property virtually all the time the best deterrent is someone being home, simple as that.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Id be more worried about someone nicking one of those standalone cameras

My wife want's security cams and audio recording devices installed all around the house so she can play back to me all the things that I deny that I said and did.

Originally Posted by Humbert

My wife want's security cams and audio recording devices installed all around the house so she can play back to me all the things that I deny that I said and did.

Haha. Man, I wish I'd done that with my ex-wife!

Originally Posted by Humbert

My wife want's security cams and audio recording devices installed all around the house so she can play back to me all the things that I deny that I said and did.

But they will also record all the things she said and did.

But usually we are supposed to be clairvoyant and react to things they didn't yet say or do.

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

But usually we are supposed to be clairvoyant and react to things they didn't yet say or do.

Yup. Ain't that the truth.

Originally Posted by canopy

But a simple trail camera can catch thieves in the act

no to worry , soon they will be equipped with lasers