Thread: Marmite's Pad

Whats the price per square meter projection for materials and labor? Not including land cost.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

And Udon is about as much earthquake prone as London

magnitude 4.5 - 5.0 do occur, in both areas, and can cause serious damage

Originally Posted by nevets

The ring beem system of building a house is very good and strong all colomns / sau bhaan ringed at the top and bottom with inerconecting concoret beem and your steel roof perlins welded to the top of the rebar coming out of the colomns, and 1.5 mt in the ground .

Yes, but I am trying to build a place with a small mass/footprint, so will try to restrict the use of concrete wherever possible.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Whats the price per square meter projection for materials and labor?

Not sure really. The upstairs is about 100sqm and the downstairs is about half of that. I'm looking at around 750k all in, but we will see. The finishing touches like a proper kitchen and walk in wardrobe will probably shift that figure the wrong way.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Whats the price per square meter projection for materials and labor? Not including land cost.

Around 200 baht.

Hi Marmite, looking forward to following this thread and hoep all goes well with your home construction.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

after the main build, the cost of the fittings are the biggest drain - bathroom stuff, kitchen, railings, tiling etc etc

Not a bad effort if he can get to that point on or around the projected budget. I will watch with interest as I will be doing something myself in the not too distant. A larger plot but smaller structure, just have to find the right plot, that's what is proving to be the most difficult thing at the moment.

^ true, getting the perfect piece of land is a long hassle sometimes, but worth it

Originally Posted by gusG

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Whats the price per square meter projection for materials and labor? Not including land cost.

Around 200 baht.

This doesn't look right. At 150 m2 that would only be 30,000baht or did I miss something?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by gusG

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Whats the price per square meter projection for materials and labor? Not including land cost.

Around 200 baht.

This doesn't look right. At 150 m2 that would only be 30,000baht or did I miss something?

It's a joke Joyce.

OK...........

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The Midget has had the hump as it was her dad who said it should be done. I did suggest he pay for the extra beams, so I'll not be getting any later.

I guess that won't be the last time during the building.

Originally Posted by Fabian

I guess that won't be the last time during the building.

Actually, I embellished that a bit to make the tale more interesting.

I've got a few more photos of concrete posts if anyone wants some.

^ as long as there is wildlife included

Originally Posted by DrAndy

^ as long as there is wildlife included

The Midget took some blurred pictures of some caterpillars.

They started shuttering the posts. They bought enough wood to do about half of them and then they'll do the other half. This is because they know how tight I am and wanted to save a few baht. The order was placed for the cement.




Then they propped them up to ensure they were straight.




Blurred caterpillars




All nice and straight(ish).




We got some child labour in to keep costs down.




We still have wild monkeys out here.




Waiting for the cement truck.




The useless kunts twice let the guys down, so they decided to do it by hand. We will now use Siam City Cement (the one with the Eagle motif) even though it's 300B a cubic metre more expensive.




The ingredients for the cement arrive




Here is the other uncle (Khun Jai Dee) filling up the posts by hand.

make sure they vibrate the concrete after pouring or you will get lots of cavities

I like the way they hold the shuttering together.
Up here they nail it together.
Your way is easier to remove and no nails will split the wood.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

make sure they vibrate the concrete after pouring or you will get lots of cavities

When the labour did my slab ontop of the pre-cest planks, they hand vibrated it with wood stick evening out the concrete pour a technique used in Devon for outside slabs and patios as of 2011. For the posts i guess you need a large mechanical whisk?

^ that was a joke.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

make sure they vibrate the concrete after pouring or you will get lots of cavities

I guess the bucketful is so small it doesn't need much/any vibrating. When the shutters came off there was very little non-compaction evident. I still think the way they do the concrete posts are total overkill for a lightweight house, so I don't forsee any issues.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

I like the way they hold the shuttering together. Up here they nail it together. Your way is easier to remove and no nails will split the wood.

They're nailed as well. I saw one plank that had a bit of a split after being used, but it's not bad enough to prevent it being used again.

Marmite, you could have rented the forms pretty cheaply for the posts instead of buying wood. I have used a rental shop in Udon several times since I think the cost of form wood is rediculous.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Marmite, you could have rented the forms pretty cheaply for the posts instead of buying wood.

It was cheaper to buy the wood.

That being said, they did rent some to do the ground beams, but they didn't know that they were going to do the ground beams originally, as I was going to use a different builder to do the rest of the job.

the work shed and workers shack/house I'd had built used pre-made concrete columns rather than the formed and poured columns. Dig hole, make concrete+rebar base, insert and straighten, pour concrete in the hope. With some hope the thinks remain standing upright. Twice I countermanded standard protocol and added more concrete to the pour around the columns. Also have introduced 2 part bonding epoxy on occasion (such as anchoring bolts or other to holes drilled in columns) and got the usual look of 'falang cha-lat or ba-ba' after it seems to hold.

I issue the warning that nothing is flat, or level, or straight in this country and if your build plans requires such, change plan accordingly. If you live anywhere close enough to a GlobalHouse or similar, you are indeed blessed.