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    Advice: living without Microsoft...

    Hello computer experts.

    I'm so fukin sick and tired of losing days of working time due to viruses and crashes. I'm also sick and tired of having Microsoft implant themselves into my computer/programs/life without being asked; they are one fukin intrusive company.

    So, my computer is now so riddled with various viruses and problems that I'm gonna throw it away (it's a Dell laptop - it is dead...).

    My question is: I use word, acrobat reader/writer and powerpoint all the time; can I have a computer setup that enables me to continue my work, but avoids Microsoft operating systems and programs. I also use yahoo and hotmail; what would you suggest as email that is not linked with Microsoft? How about web browser?

    Is this a good idea? Doable?

    Many thanks for your sensible advice.
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    Buy a Mac!

    Takes little time to figure out the differences. I never used one until had to for work. My PC's are same as yours. My Mac I use all day and every day. Every once in a while it freezes. Turn off and on and off I go again.

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    Get shot of Yahoo and hotmail.

    Google toolbar and Gmail for your email

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble
    My Mac I use all day and every day.
    Do they have word/acrobat/powerpoint esque programs that I can make/cahge files then use them on a pc/microsoft based platform?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii
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    No Microsoft links; not bought out by Microsoft yet? I'm happy to give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    So, my computer is now so riddled with various viruses and problems that I'm gonna throw it away (it's a Dell laptop - it is dead...).
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    Just reformat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    So, my computer is now so riddled with various viruses and problems that I'm gonna throw it away (it's a Dell laptop - it is dead...).
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    Just reformat it
    Getting riddled with virii can happen with any OS.

    You might want to try Ubuntu it has a very similar feel to MS or Mac and is free the oppen office programs (once again free) are similar to the MS programs tough I still find the MS Office programs easier to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana
    try Ubuntu
    That's a good suggestion, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii
    Just reformat it
    I've done that already, but the virus came back within 2 days... It's also damn tricky because it stops the screen from coming up (I think it attacks the graphics card or something???).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Do they have word/acrobat/powerpoint esque programs that I can make/cahge files then use them on a pc/microsoft based platform?
    Yes they do.

    More importantly, think of the hours you could spend arguing with Butterfly about it!

    That on it's own should convince you to buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana
    You might want to try Ubuntu it has a very similar feel to MS or Mac and is free the oppen office programs (once again free) are similar to the MS programs tough I still find the MS Office programs easier to use.
    This is what I use. Ubuntu was installed a almost two years ago, and it has been virus free since. No I dont like the open office as much as microsoft, so I do my office work in my office on a windows equipped PC.

    But I must say I just bought my daughters Mac airs, and they are the coolest machine I have ever seen. My next computer will be an apple.

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    I have to use Windows for work. No fan of Bill Gates, but Windows 7 is the best Windows I've used. Rock-solid, my computer is on 24/7 and I can't remember the last time I've had to reboot.

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    get ubuntu os Homepage | Ubuntu

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    looks like BB is computer challenged, what a surprise

    buy a mac like the other poof then you could ask dumb questions to the forum

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    ^ I see the Belgium fluff has turned up; you can rest assured that I'm not gay enough to get an iPhone...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince
    think of the hours you could spend arguing with Butterfly about it!
    Mmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Mac airs
    Sound expensive, like Nike airs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud
    Windows 7 is the best Windows I've used
    So were my previous O/S until they bring out a new version and release viruses for the old versions to force you to spend more money on their products... Frankly, Microsoft fuk me right off with their illegal business practices.

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    Things you need to keep your PC clean and fast ;

    Here is what I have on my Windows 7 PC

    Bit Defender Anti Virus Pro
    Speed up My PC- on startup
    Crap Cleaner- every day after finished browsing
    Malware Bytes- always on
    Spybot S&D- once a week
    Smart Defrag- once a week
    Driver Genius pro- once a month

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    When will windows 7 change though; they'll stop supporting it, and it'll just become a virus magnet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble
    My Mac I use all day and every day.
    Do they have word/acrobat/powerpoint esque programs that I can make/cahge files then use them on a pc/microsoft based platform?

    Quote Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii
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    No Microsoft links; not bought out by Microsoft yet? I'm happy to give it a go.
    Yip M word excel powerpoint. No problem. The photo and vid programs are very easy to use and seamless. If you wish you can split your hard drive and run windows as well as the Mac system. Apparently windows runs quicker on the Mac than a PC. When I first changed did that, but bothered less and less with the PC side. Now use MAC only.

    Not an expert just a user. For me it runs great. Have no problems and have not used a techi in years.

    I use Yahoo page on Safai and google on Firefox again no problems.

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    ^ good advice; thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble
    If you wish you can split your hard drive and run windows as well as the Mac system.
    I'm using VMware Fusion to run Windows 7 on a Virtual Machine (whatever that is), there's no need to reboot the mac to run it, it just opens up in a window like any other application.

    I've started using it in the last month as I've got a couple of programs that aren't available on mac.

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    ^ aliNa??? So, you run W7 via a server to reduce the virus risk? Is it slow?

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    That does look good - I think I'll be going that'a way...

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    You may get problems using other versions of PowerPoint.

    If you don;t use any one else's PPT files, you'll be OK, but there are issues between Open Office, Mac & MS Office's versions which may cause you a few headaches down the line.

    You could of course, stop letting MS download anything it wants onto your computer...
    You cannae live wiv 'em and ye cannae fucking shoot 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    You could of course, stop letting MS download anything it wants onto your computer...
    Yeah, I've been allowing microsoft downloads automatically, and that's probably stupid of me: keep them out, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    So were my previous O/S until they bring out a new version and release viruses for the old versions to force you to spend more money on their products... Frankly, Microsoft fuk me right off with their illegal business practices.
    Aah, the conspiracy theorist in full bloom.
    I'm running WinXP on 2 computers, Win7 and Ubuntu on 2 others and I don't get any of those "Microsoft released viruses" on them.

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    Thanks, lom; now fuk off, there's a good chap...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    Yeah, I've been allowing microsoft downloads automatically, and that's probably stupid of me: keep them out, I agree.
    No it is not stupid,
    I allow them and I consider myself having good knowledge about computers but consider Microsoft having better knowledge than me about bugs and security holes that has to be fixed.

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    I worked with Microsoft many years back (broadcasting middleware), there engineers and products were shite, nobody in the industry wanted to touch them; their products failed. They seem to have done well for themselves in computers though...

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