ADSL / TOT

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 08:08 PM

I have posted here a few times regarding my internet connection, it is supposed to be a 3mb/512 connection, however, it seems prone to a few problems.

I think I mentioned before, that it keeps dropping the DSL connection.

I initially had a tech come out whose sole purpose seemed to be to fuck off from here as quick as he came and doing sweet fuck all other than proving the TOT down load speed.

The internet was working "of a fashion", but for whatever reasons (he knew the connection was crap) sent out another two guys (the next day) to diagnose the line problems. and they said the line was shir - you cannot even hold a phone conversation due to the buzz!

They checked everything, and found the line to be extremely noisy, i.e. voice calls cannot be heard.

They then said that yet another bunch of semi trained monkeys would visit, steal some cable, and anything else lying around unnatached.

Sadly, it seems the local zoo has not given them a day pass as they as yet have not arrived.

The problem now is the adsl starts working, the HTTP side is still as slow as shit, may as well be on a dial up.

The P2P, Torrent sites actually connect and start really moving, the problem appears when they get close to my maximum download speed. Anywhere near 200KB/S and the connection drops! - sync????

I am on 3MB/s Down and 512 Up, when the connection gets near 200KBS down, the connection drops, again and again and again.

I tried the ping test, and my router wants 1492 MTU. I get about 1462 before packets start dropping, I add 28 to that figure as is suggested, and it takes me back to the default router settings, so all there seems OK.

Surely to god, these assholes at TOT have some method of line testing that can show up the fault when the line is running flat out?

The tech they sent out looked up a Thai speedtest site that showed I got 2.8 Download, but when I went to show him the 500kB download I got from a Bangkok server, he totally ignored it!

Why would the connection drop as it increases in speed, surely this is a TOT SYNC problem? (plus the audible crap on the line!

**Butterfly** · 19-09-2009, 08:14 PM

try the off the hook trick, works great for old lines

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

try the off the hook trick, works great for old lines

It is not an old line, it is a brand new TOT install, new cable, new modem...it is just shit!
I can disconnct everythin bar the router, when it gets near 200KBS download - it drops, that's it, but if you pick up the phone, it is like a bottle of wasps, everything is buzzing like crazy.

The last bunch of trained monkeys agreed that there was a problem and told me that a line crew would be sent out to repair the line (the noise is not from my home) but from the 200m run to the connection. sadly in the past few days no fucker has bothered to turn up

**Butterfly** · 19-09-2009, 08:26 PM

same, it might work, try it

**Katana** · 19-09-2009, 08:40 PM

The buzz over the line is a dead give away you line is F[at]#$ed the noise makes the conection drop.

Fix the noise and the conection won't drop.

What can cause the noise.... LOTS of things in the exchange or cabinet but you can't fix them and ToT fixing them .... hehehehehe.

At your house check the line coming in and the plastic connector if the wires are corroded the can affect the noise. Also check and if possible swap the phone line with the little plastic plugs on them as they are the absolute lowest quailty and fail easily.

Also don't do silly things like running the phone line next to electrical cable. This introduces noise to the line. Also make sure you have a splitter if you have a phone attached to the same line. A splitter seperates the phone (voice) signal from the adsl signal making sure that they do not interfere with each other.

My ADSL modem show drastically varing noise levels with my equipment on my premise not changing. If the lines vary that much with me being in the middle of the old city in chiang mai the god (buddah) help anyone outside ona 3 or 4km line.

Mark

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by MangoPeeler

monkey level marketing Rather like sindod for ex fleet rental daughters They are selling yor bandwith many times over If you use monkeys you get peanuts sadly sat alternatives are an arm and a leg and the TOT/CAT/AIS mafia make Thai telecoms in relation to labour costs the most expensive and profitable Ive evr seen

I do not believe for one second they are selling my "bandwidth" they are not that smart.

It appears that these fucking idiots have bought into a technology that they cannot understand or support, the fucking idiots probably thought that this was a good deal, but now the fuckers have to try and support it, and this is where they are fucked, technically, mentally.

They have bought a technollogy that they are incapable of supporting, like asking a fucking monkey to run FEDEX, it just doesn't work!

You can put all the high tech infrastructure in here, but if you use baboons to operate it it will surely fail!

**Spin** · 19-09-2009, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I initially had a tech come out whose sole purpose seemed to be to fuck off from here as quick as he came

Somebody please start a "best of" thread for Miggins, he deserves it for sure.

**FlyFree** · 19-09-2009, 08:52 PM

Miggins, I wish you'd sort out your fuckin pc's, laptops, adsl and games. Since you've been farting around with technology it's all you bitch about. These bitches are boring, whereas your bitching about all the other good stuff was entertaining.

**Katana** · 19-09-2009, 09:01 PM

LoL

No actually in every market that ADSL has been introduced the bandwidth problem has surfaced. The expectation of usage if outstipped by actual usage making peak times slow to unusaable.

They think oh .. add some more bandwidth. Its ok .... nice. Two days later start again.

The lead time to add bandwidth is up to 6 months so if they have not planned well or have not had contracts to easily increasebandwidth they and ther users are F#$%ed.

It happens between then the cabinets/exchanges and the central office and between offices(intra-national) and most obviously internationally.

Until they bite the bullet and provision the bandwidth ahead of increasing users and increasing usage or funnel usage to internal sources then this will continue. Just like it has in the US and the UK and Australia.

The added problem for Thai Internet providers is the unusual skewing of the usage by foriegn users. foriegn users make up a significant minority of accounts with almost exclusive use of external bandwidth. If ToT/Maxnet/TRUE wre smart the would offer a bundle with premium internet for international bandwidth at a premium price point. Easy to implement and tthe profits from providing a premium service can be used to increase overall bandwidth integrity while maintaining a priority for this set of clients.

Mark

gotorightway123 · 19-09-2009, 09:02 PM

try the off the hook trick, works great for old lines...thanks for the suggestion

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Katana

The buzz over the line is a dead give away you line is F[at]#$ed the noise makes the conection drop.

Fix the noise and the conection won't drop.

What can cause the noise.... LOTS of things in the exchange or cabinet but you can't fix them and ToT fixing them .... hehehehehe.

At your house check the line coming in and the plastic connector if the wires are corroded the can affect the noise. Also check and if possible swap the phone line with the little plastic plugs on them as they are the absolute lowest quailty and fail easily.

Also don't do silly things like running the phone line next to electrical cable. This introduces noise to the line. Also make sure you have a splitter if you have a phone attached to the same line. A splitter seperates the phone (voice) signal from the adsl signal making sure that they do not interfere with each other.

My ADSL modem show drastically varing noise levels with my equipment on my premise not changing. If the lines vary that much with me being in the middle of the old city in chiang mai the god (buddah) help anyone outside ona 3 or 4km line.

Mark

Katana, thanks for your advice, but the merry bunch from TOT have already established that it is an external line fault, the problem I have is getting the bastards to fix it!

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Miggins, I wish you'd sort out your fuckin pc's, laptops, adsl and games. Since you've been farting around with technology it's all you bitch about. These bitches are boring, whereas your bitching about all the other good stuff was entertaining.

Then why waste your precious time replying?
I am fucked off getting second rate service from cunts that expect first rate fees, if you bow down to this shit, then fair enough, me, I want what I pay for...to the las fucking cent!

And fuckwits like yourself that allow themselves to be walked over in the name of "an easy life" betray the very reason you are on this earth!

You think it is acceptable to get screwed?, screwed a lot or a little bit?... what point would you cease protesting? ...the level of being screwed up the assd that was acceptable to you??

maybe a finger? a long dick?

Where do you draw the line?

There is no difference in getting fucked over for a cent or a million dollars, you are still getting it up the arse!

**Missismiggins** · 19-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Now, I just downloaded Michael Moores new movie, Capitalism, and when I start to play it, I get redirected to a microsoft site and the video hang...is this a joke/ virus or some anti piracy?

**chitown** · 19-09-2009, 09:36 PM

[quote=Missismiggins;1172100]Michael Moores new movie, Capitalism...is this a joke?quote]

Yep. Everything he has done is joke.

**baldrick** · 19-09-2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

and when I start to play it, I get redirected to a microsoft site and the video hang...is this a joke/ virus or some anti piracy?

it could be the standard fake to get you to load a virus - are you sure the website is microsoft and not a phish ? did you read the commments on the page where you downlaoded the tracker list ?

if you are using windows media player 7 to 12 then it is a joke

go and download klite mega pack which will use media player classic and have all the codecs you need.

as for your adsl , why are you sure the problem is the 200 metres of cable looped across the paddock ?

it is unshielded so it could be acting as an antenna if there is some transmitting device waving at it. maybe you can try and attach one end of the steel guy wire in the cable to a ground as a drain.

for instrumentation signal cables we normally use shielded twisted pair , the pair runs the signal and the shield ( aluminium foil and a bit of unsheathed wire ) is then attached to an instrument earth bar at one end ( normally the marshalling rack end ) and the bar is connected to an instrument earth ( seperate from the normal sparkies earth.

**Missismiggins** · 20-09-2009, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

and when I start to play it, I get redirected to a microsoft site and the video hang...is this a joke/ virus or some anti piracy?

it could be the standard fake to get you to load a virus - are you sure the website is microsoft and not a phish ? did you read the commments on the page where you downlaoded the tracker list ?

if you are using windows media player 7 to 12 then it is a joke

go and download klite mega pack which will use media player classic and have all the codecs you need.

as for your adsl , why are you sure the problem is the 200 metres of cable looped across the paddock ? (err, because I think I pulled it too tight - I never had a problem before I hooked it up to poles, but TOT will not even check, maybe I broke a cable or a joint, who knows, but they are not interested, all I know is before I gave it that final "TUG" it worked OK, now it doesn't, nothing else has changed, when it rains it gets worse, which would suggest that something has "opened", but again TOT refuse to even check it - All I get is "Mai Bpen Rai" I guess the final act will have to be pulling on the cable so hard that I actually snap it, then they will have to repair it.

There was one other factor though, the shite from the local temple have designated the pole supporting my cable as a burning ground for their rubbish, this was the only other factor in the equation, they lit a huge fire under my cable the same day that I "pulled it tight" so, maybe these saffron clad Dons have a hand in it too...the cable is about 9 M from the ground, and I don't think the flames would have got that high, but that's just wishful thinking I suppose. Maybe I need to get the terminator to accelerate their journey to paradise!

it is unshielded so it could be acting as an antenna if there is some transmitting device waving at it. maybe you can try and attach one end of the steel guy wire in the cable to a ground as a drain.

for instrumentation signal cables we normally use shielded twisted pair , the pair runs the signal and the shield ( aluminium foil and a bit of unsheathed wire ) is then attached to an instrument earth bar at one end ( normally the marshalling rack end ) and the bar is connected to an instrument earth ( seperate from the normal sparkies earth.

Actually, I did not read the torrent info, as I have used this site for months and not had a single fake/virus, but I will retry.

I understand a bit about shielded cables and such, but if for instance I was to bare a little section of the stainless steel carrier, and then connect this to the earth or actually stick a stake in the grounf, do you think this would help? If so where is the best place to ground it?

They have grounded my phone line about 2m from the outside box, by cutting the stainless cable and attatching it to the box then into the ground.

So the remaining stainless is a couple of metres short, a bare end exposed, and connected to zilch!

Would I do any harm by attatching another cable to the bare wire and grounding it?

As for CODECS - I have them coming out of my hair, I have K-lite, Xvid and a hundred more - this is a spoof torrent as far as I can tell

"Capitalism_A_Love_Story_ENGLISH_TS_XviD_MAX.torre nt" It took a day to load, then directs you to Microsoft. Bugger, I was looking forward to watching that.

As for the internet, it works most of the time until I get a really good torrent download, and once it starts to see around 200KBS download, it just drops the connection! Then you have to exit bit torrent and restart else it will sit there at about 14KB download all day, but once it gets to that magic 200KBS, it just drops again, this can go on every 10 minutes or so!

**the dogcatcher** · 20-09-2009, 07:52 AM

How about dump TOT and get Dtac mobile broadband. Ok it ein't that fast, but as far as I'm concerned mine is 100% stable, so far.

**Marmite the Dog** · 20-09-2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Katana

The added problem for Thai Internet providers is the unusual skewing of the usage by foriegn users. foriegn users make up a significant minority of accounts with almost exclusive use of external bandwidth. If ToT/Maxnet/TRUE wre smart the would offer a bundle with premium internet for international bandwidth at a premium price point. Easy to implement and tthe profits from providing a premium service can be used to increase overall bandwidth integrity while maintaining a priority for this set of clients.

They do already, though the whole point of the internet is that is has no borders, so why should someone pay more because they don't want to be limited to the truly pathetic and epileptic fit inducing websites available in Thailand.

**FlyFree** · 20-09-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Then why waste your precious time replying?

My time currently is fairly unprecious.

I am fucked off getting second rate service from cunts that expect first rate fees, if you bow down to this shit, then fair enough, me, I want what I pay for...to the las fucking cent!

And fuckwits like yourself that allow themselves to be walked over in the name of "an easy life" betray the very reason you are on this earth!

Dunno about the first-rate fees, that's a moot point. I tend to not allow myself to be walked over or bow down to 'this shit' however. I can do a fair impression of MigginsPissedOff when I have to.

You think it is acceptable to get screwed?, screwed a lot or a little bit?... what point would you cease protesting? ...the level of being screwed up the assd that was acceptable to you??

More than acceptable. A lot. I prefer a lot. Up the arse though can get tricky.

Now please go bitch about something else other than technology, I'm bored and I need entertainment. There's a good boy. And don't be so fuckin rude.

**baldrick** · 20-09-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Actually, I did not read the torrent info, as I have used this site for months and not had a single fake/virus

it probably is a fake and it probably isn't really a microsoft site they are sending you to. - as I said you have to reaad the comments , it will tell you if it is a fake and also the quality .

as an aside TS means telecine which means it has been recorded off the movie theatre film , some telecined moveies are good and some are the same as a camcorder in the cinema.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

by cutting the stainless cable and attatching it to the box then into the ground

if the stainless steel wire is not connected to anythng at either end , then at your house end connect it to a wire and stab a bit of steel into the ground as the earth.

the little box at your house where the 2 wires are connected for your phone signal is also supposed to have an earth line , but that is only for a lightning protection path.

**Wallalai** · 20-09-2009, 12:13 PM

If you use the free provided modem from your ISP, I suggest to purchase a reliable modem router. Most of the free devices are just crap.

I had the same problem last year, I went to Panthip Chiangmai and purchased a Belkn N1 modem router Belkin : N1 Wireless Router

never had any problem since.

**benbaaa** · 20-09-2009, 12:26 PM

TOT where I live has been completely shit recently. Look at the results below. I'm supposed to be on a 1.5M/512Kbps package or something.

Is there a severed cable or something?

**BobR** · 20-09-2009, 12:30 PM

I have never known anyone in Thailand who has gotten internet speed anywhere even close to what is promised. All the tech visits, phone calls and frustration will not change that. I have the 3mb package from TOT and when I checked it just before writing this response, it was at 62kbs. The fact that it usually gets faster late at night, when fewer people are on line makes me believe they just have too many users on insufficient equipment.

**Begbie** · 20-09-2009, 12:32 PM

Yep TOT in Chiang Mai have gone to shit. I have a very clear telephone line but am getting the same problems as Miggins and BenBaaa. The internet is really slow or drops out completely for hours.

**Marmite the Dog** · 20-09-2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by BobR

I have never known anyone in Thailand who has gotten internet speed anywhere even close to what is promised.

I'm on 5mb down/512kb up with TT&T Maxnet in Udon.

Close enough for me.

Thread: ADSL / TOT

Thread Tools

Display

ADSL / TOT

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

Posting Permissions