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    DSL Connected Finally!

    At last, I have a land based telephone, nearly 10 years now!
    Sadly, the phone that TOT gave free along with the DSL modem doesn't work - Chinese shit!

    I got the internet working, and then added a wireless router, and managed to get that working too.

    Can connect the PSP to the internet so I got that working too.

    What I need a bit of advice on (as all of this is completely new to me) I bought the 3MB/S internet package from TOT, I have tried various speed testers and they range from about 260KB/S to 1500KB/S, however not one of them is more than half of 3MB/S! I tested the download speed again after 5 minutes and it was only 250KB/S???

    Is this normal?

    I tried the "Thai Visa " speed test and it gave me a 2183KB/S Download...is any of this shit accurate? or more to the point does it have any real effect on your effective download speed.

    Obviously, if I am downloading a torrent from a computer on a modem I am not going to get 3MB/S, so where is the best place to find fast downloads?

    I can understand variations between sites, but even when I try to download a movie from "Bit torrent" it is not much better than my previous mobile phone modem connection - all I seem to get is about 14-24KB/s.

    I have set the router to allow "multicast" have set port forwarding to the port used by Bit Torrent, (when I do the port check it comes up with an error that the port is not open) I don't know how to get around this - D Link DIR 615, just if anyone knows if this is normal here in Thailand on TOT in the sticks...with a 200 metre run of cable to the main cable.

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    have set port forwarding to the port used by Bit Torrent, (when I do the port check it comes up with an error that the port is not open)
    search port forwarding on here , you haven't set it up properly

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    Make sure the PnP is enabled on the router and forget that port forwarding bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    have set port forwarding to the port used by Bit Torrent, (when I do the port check it comes up with an error that the port is not open)
    search port forwarding on here , you haven't set it up properly
    Thanks,
    Will have a look but as far as I can see I have done everything I need to do with the router. i.e - in the port forwarding menu under advanced settings, I set up the name, then set up my computer IP, and filled in the port data for Bit torrent, but when I do the forwarding test it fails!

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    as far as I can see I have done everything I need to do
    static ip

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    I have the same TOT package as you and my port keeps turning itself on and off .
    I have reduced the number of connections in utorrent options and that seems to keep it up a bit longer.

    Maximum speed I can get is 2600 which is a local test as soon as you try an international link the speed drops a lot

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    You have not got a 3MBps connection. You have a 3Mbps connection. You are confusing bits and bytes.

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    Dynamic IP, port forwarding set as per that sites reccomendations, makes no difference, still fails the test. (looking through the port forwarding topics, it looks as if most people have the same rubbish)

    I did try that speedtest that was posted in the thread and it was something around 2.4MB/S even with Bit Torrent running at a sedately pace of 15KB/S It's probably a TOT site that just prints out a high download rate to keep the customers off their backs...hell I shouldn't complain, it is (as far as connections go - a hell of a lot better than what I had, and for only 100 baht a month or so more)

    Really just interested in the technology and making sure I have set it up right, I enjoy the challenge!

    The PSP is pretty shit by the way as far as displaying and navigating the internet, Sony really could have done better.

    I am going to frighten friends (if I have any left these days) with SKYPE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    You have not got a 3MBps connection. You have a 3Mbps connection. You are confusing bits and bytes.
    Whatever, that is not really what I am on about, whether MB or Mb, the fact is I a am getting KB!

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    Dynamic IP
    there be your problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Dynamic IP
    there be your problem
    so how do I get a static IP? complain? thats what I did with AIS and they gave me a static IP

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    The quoted speeds are maximum limits that your line can handle; probably never reached but good for the "wow" factor.

    I have a 3M connection and only get about half that for connections in Thailand. For international sites I only get about a 300kps max. Most of the time its around 50-100kbps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobs00 View Post
    The quoted speeds are maximum limits that your line can handle; probably never reached but good for the "wow" factor.

    I have a 3M connection and only get about half that for connections in Thailand. For international sites I only get about a 300kps max. Most of the time its around 50-100kbps.
    And I suppose it is site dependant too!

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    1 byte = 8 bits

    3Mbs = 3072Kbs

    3072Kbs / 8 = 384KBs

    i.e. 384KBs is the maximum possible speed a 3Mbs line can deliver


    (half a byte is a nibble )

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    its really a miracle I got the damn thing installed at all.
    After almost two weeks they finally came out, I had put in an assortment of new poles to carry my proposed phone line and new electricity connection.

    Both dashed within the hour, the poles are not "BIG" enough for the electric company, so no new electric supply! The TOT cable that runs along the same line is "OPTICAL" and cannot be used for the internet/phone connection - by this time I want to strangle someone - probably the wife.

    Anyway, the TOT guy takes pity and suggests laying the cable along the ground, 200 metres through the Lam Yai, 20 metres through scrub and shit you really would not want to walk through, then they managed to "hurl" the cable the 10-15 metres across a small river and onto the opposite bank, where they then connected it.

    I put in a half dozen posts of about 3 metres in height to keep it out of the water, and they connected it, not like British Telecom eh! 200 Baht tip and they were happy as kings, they even left me a coil of an extra 100m of cable to "assist" getting it up on poles and up to the insulators on the 1st floor, only need to be careful cutting the grass for the next few weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    1 byte = 8 bits

    3Mbs = 3072Kbs

    3072Kbs / 8 = 384KBs

    i.e. 384KBs is the maximum possible speed a 3Mbs line can deliver, but to be honest, I thought 3Mbs was nearer 175Kbs download


    (half a byte is a nibble )

    It would appear that I am getting a damn sight less than a nibble then if I am getting around 20Kb
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    Thanks, but that is the site I used, and the instructions didn't work initially, until I sussed out putting in the IP address of my com etc. it kept coming up with some error about "subnet mask"...anyway set everything and the port check still says the port is not open.

    It's all a pile of crap to be honest, we got a free telephone from TOT, the handset doesn't work - it has neither a dial tone or any audio!

    It also has a piece of steel glued inside to make it feel "substantial", yes, I have opened it.

    The TOT CD for the internet connection doesn't work, it get's to the point where it verifies all the network connections, as OK then tests the internet connection and continuously fails.

    Load up the D-link software and everything passes just fine, suppose you get what you pay for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Make sure the PnP is enabled on the router and forget that port forwarding bollocks.
    PnP is enabled, and to be honest, I think you are correct, I will just forget the port forwarding bollocks, it makes not a ha'peth of difference!

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    And what about the ISP compression ratios? I have seen figures of 1:8!!! which would seriously reduce the bandwidth.

    I sadly had this vision of coming in and opening the com, downloading loads of PSP ISO's for my son, at about a game every five minutes, I have been kicked into touch!

    10 years ago in Shanghai, I had a better connection than this, 10 years ago!

    But I will say one thing, TD opens a damn site quicker, and I can nearly stream video from youtube...nearly!

    Been looking at a few oldies tonight, just for testing purposes of course, Steptoe and son, Bottom, The young Ones, Billy connely...some of these don't age too well sadly!

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    Reading through all that makes me appreciate my rapidshare even more........

    Now if only i could master newsgroups !!!

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    ah , miggins the computer guru

    let us start at the beginning

    you have a modem - the thing that the RJ11 telephone plug goes into ? yes/no ? what manuf / model

    the modem also has a RJ 45 ethernet LAN port ? yes / no ?

    the wireless router you purchased - a dlink dir-615

    this one ?



    it has 4 RJ45 LAN ports and 1 RJ45 WAN port

    please confirm some of the above and we will move to the next step.
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ah , miggins the computer guru

    let us start at the beginning

    you have a modem - the thing that the RJ11 telephone plug goes into ? yes/no ? what manuf / model

    the modem also has a RJ 45 ethernet LAN port ? yes / no ?

    the wireless router you purchased - a dlink dir-615

    this one ?



    it has 4 RJ45 LAN ports and 1 RJ45 WAN port

    please confirm some of the above and we will move to the next step.

    Come on baldrick, help me my friend!
    Yes, you are correct, that is the router, the modem however is a piece of shit, "Billion" made in China!

    The PC is plugged into poert 1 of the 4 LAN connections, the internet is into the single ethernet to the cheap shit modem,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    It's all a pile of crap to be honest, we got a free telephone from TOT, the handset doesn't work - it has neither a dial tone or any audio!
    What brand of telephone is it?

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    I have run a cheap Huawei chinese modem for 4 years - no issue

    ok - what we are going to do for now is remove the ethernet cable from the WAN port of the dlink

    then you need to access the web GUI config of the dlink and change its LAN address to 192.168.1.250 and turn off DHCP server and save - then connect the modem LAN to the dlink LAN
    ( I am assuming the modem LAN address is 192.168.1.1 )

    ok - confirm that works and you get back on the net and we will go from there.

    if it does not just plug the computer LAN straight to the modem LAN and come back to tell us its fcuked

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