Linux

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

Move over to Linux; Fuck MS. You can print, chat, send/receive email, surf the web, write documents/spreadsheets, create presentations and manipulate graphics with actually more ease than with windows. On less hardware. There are some fantastic 3-d modeling and CAD/CAM applications available if you look. Not every thing that runs on linux is free but enough of it is.

I'd love to move over to Linux, but I do too many things for other people which rely on my having the same software as them. I really can't be bothered to run two OSs.

**buadhai** · 13-07-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I'd love to move over to Linux, but I do too many things for other people which rely on my having the same software as them. I really can't be bothered to run two OSs.

Well, the sage advice always used to be to pick the software you need to run and then choose the computer and OS that best handles them. So, you need Photoshop for work then you're stuck.

But, do you really need software compatibility or just file compatibility?

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 10:10 AM

I have two Pcs. One at work must have Windows because other people use it, but my home PC is just for me. I swap many files between the two computers.

I use MSAccess, WAB and Excel (not a problem with this one) as well as needing to use IE to check stuff and Photoshop. Sadly, I also use MS FrontPage and quite like it.

I really like WMP because of it's playlists and I use various untilites (like Audiograbber) that I couldn't do without.

I'm sure that some of these have compatable Linux equivalents or even Linux versions. Something for the future though I think.

**buadhai** · 13-07-2006, 10:17 AM

BTW, I downloaded the Ubuntu live CD image for Macintosh and booted up with it this morning. A very pleasant surprise. It discovered all the hardware and used correct drivers, including high-res video. Networking was a snap. the desktop looks good and every application I tried worked flawlessly. A much better experience than trying to run KDE under Apple's X11 (xWindows).

I'll stick with the Mac OS, but it's nice to see how far linux has come over the past few years. It's a definite, low cost alternative for people who just want an OS that works, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, is secure (if anything is) and has loads of free software available.

Definitely worth a look.

**ChiangMai noon** · 13-07-2006, 10:19 AM

^
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but you may gather that I don't have a clue.

I listen to bbc radio all the time while i am working, i mean pissing about on the computer.
Is real player compatible with linux?

**buadhai** · 13-07-2006, 10:24 AM

RealPlayer for Linux

**ChiangMai noon** · 13-07-2006, 10:27 AM

^
That's that one answered then.
Thanks BD.

**friscofrankie** · 13-07-2006, 10:28 AM

I run two OSs. Have to. I may work for a week - ten days in Linux then boot Windows to check for compatibility. Linux just works better. I find myself buried in a maze of menus and applets to do simple tasks. Fucking hate windows.

Thing is, Microsoft is fucking you and everyone else that even uses their OS. MS has got to be one of the greatest cons ever pulled on Mankind. People take the time to learn how to operate a car, typewriter even a shovel requires some technique. They sit in front of a computer and MS has convinced them they ain't gotta know shit. It ain't true and it ain't ever gonna be.

Folks at MS love that shit, it means $$$ in their bank account. Even if you steal everything they make and use it, it forces other, less resourceful folks to go out and buy, buy, buy.

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 10:30 AM

^ We all agree Frankie, but I can't simply use a different OS to everyone else because it would be too much trouble for me.

**Wallalai** · 13-07-2006, 10:34 AM

A link that could be useful to check USB hardware compatibility with Linux.

http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php

**buadhai** · 13-07-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

I find myself buried in a maze of menus and applets to do simple tasks. Fucking hate windows.

I don't want to start a big debate here, but I'm afraid I have to agree. I was stuck with Windows at work for years. Never grew to enjoy it. Just installed XP on brother-in-law's laptop and it drove me nuts. All this crap popping up all the time "your computer may be at risk", "take the windows tour", "hi, I'm clippy, don't you wish you could use me to clean out your ears?"

There must be some way to turn all that off....

Although Windoze is here to stay, it's nice to see a big crop of user-friendly alternatives out there, just as it's nice to see so many people here willing to consider them.

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by buadhai

There must be some way to turn all that off....

There is and I have.

**buadhai** · 13-07-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

There is and I have.

Please reveal. I can't take the time to figure it out....

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 11:00 AM

"your computer may be at risk"

Activate or install a firewall & antivirus software.

"take the windows tour"

Only prompts you once.

"hi, I'm clippy, don't you wish you could use me to clean out your ears?"

When he pops up you have the option to disable him. Do it!

**NickA** · 13-07-2006, 11:56 AM

I think I've decided on KDE, although I liked the simplicity of Gnome it just seems KDE has a bit more to offer.

Now the only thing I can't find at the moment is a complete set of DVD authoring tools like Nero - I can find indiviudal apps to do it bit by bit, but I'm lazy - anyone got any ideas???

**Marmite the Dog** · 13-07-2006, 12:11 PM

Didn't MrsQ recommend one?

**NickA** · 13-07-2006, 12:15 PM

^He recommended an alternative to Nero for Windows

Oh, apparently there's Nero Linux, so it's justa case of finding a torrent....

**mrsquirrel** · 13-07-2006, 12:18 PM

THat was for windows.

Sorry about that.

Sadly my printer is not compatable with Linux.

Fucking stupid thing that it is relies on Windows.

Best value printer to use as well.

Bugger.

**mrsquirrel** · 13-07-2006, 12:19 PM

YOu could run it in that windows emulater thing WINE though and have a decent powerful burning software.

**lom** · 13-07-2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

YOu could run it in that windows emulater thing WINE

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't run a time critical application inside an emulator.
Get a Linux app for it !

**friscofrankie** · 13-07-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

I think I've decided on KDE, although I liked the simplicity of Gnome it just seems KDE has a bit more to offer.

Now the only thing I can't find at the moment is a complete set of DVD authoring tools like Nero - I can find indiviudal apps to do it bit by bit, but I'm lazy - anyone got any ideas???

if you haven't tried google do so:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
Results 1 - 10 of about 6,710,000 for DVD authoring Linux. (0.31 seconds)

Sourceforge.net ( http://sf.net ) might also be an alternative but usually Google has them well indexed.
http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_...uthoring+linux
Searching projects gives 8130 results

That oughta keep you busy for a few minutes...

**friscofrankie** · 13-07-2006, 04:48 PM

^ some of this stuff may not be available in a compatible "package." Don't be afraid to download the source code and compile it on your machine. Realy is quite simple.
After extracting a tar ball change to dir and enter the command, "./configure --help" usually this gives you more options than you know what to do with, no problem. Compile with defaults. The README or INSTALL files give simple insructions for making executables for your machine, OPTIMIZED for your machine.

Couple of the projects on the first page of sourceforge look cool, they use all the available tools and bring 'em all together under one app. most of the GUI burning/authoring tools just give an easier interface to command line tools anyway.

**NickA** · 14-07-2006, 01:44 PM

Thanks Frankie - like you said the first couple on Sourceforge look like they'll do the job, so I'll DL them when I get home

**NickA** · 15-07-2006, 02:47 PM

Wow, sometimes things are easier said than done - Frankie has sent me on a proper wild file chase - I think I'm getting nearer the end, but each time I think I've installed something it tells me I need another file, with needs another library, which needs another compiler.....

It's been fun though and I think I've got somewhere near where I need to be although it's been a bit hit and miss as half the packages are either crap, crash all the time or are only half implemented.

ManDVD is supposed to do the job, but i haven't got it to work yet, devede works, but doesn't include a menu function, although that'll be fine for films.

**NickA** · 15-07-2006, 02:49 PM

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