Thread: Microsoft not updating

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switch off updates.

no good can come of them.

I was hoping for an answer from someone who knows something about computers.

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they'll all say the same thing.

lom?

There is a program that you can get from a torrent with all the XP updates in it until about a year ago, plus some special features. I use it whenever I have do to a clean install.

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/2...er?tab=summary

or

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/3...er?tab=summary

Originally Posted by benbaaa

lom?

Have mine switched on. Nothing bad, only good has come from that

With 91 updates, you are far behind.
Better do an SP3 upgrade + a few updates that has been released after SP3.

Do you have a good serial number for your XP?
Or have you applied the Windows Genuine Advantage fix/crack?

Anyway, try a manual Windows Update (Start , Windows Update) and you will prolly get prompted to do an SP3 upgrade.

Benners, PM me if you need a serial number fix for Windows.
This thread seems to have been hijacked by the linux freaks..

Managed to fix it myself.

Just downloaded this little file, ran it and re-booted. All 92 updates were installed. But thanks to Marmers and lom - you are my heroes, Mwah!

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Asking TDers about computers is like asking your dog how to use a remote control

pointless

92 updates you left that for a while

is it actually sage to have your updates switched on if you only have a moody copy of windows?

i'm going to give ubuntu a try tomorrow.

looks very sleek.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

is it actually sage to have your updates switched on if you only have a moody copy of windows?

It's coolio.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Asking TDers about computers is like asking your dog how to use a remote control pointless

But still, if that dog fucks around for a while he might just change the channel, whereas BF will have shoved the remote so far up his anal passage that the only channel you'll be able to change is the one his shit comes out of.

Originally Posted by benbaaa

With the copy of XP SP2 I've got, I used to get updates from Microsoft with no problem, but in the last week, I've been getting the little yellow shield (Updates are available for your computer. Click here to download). When I click, sometimes it starts downloading, sometimes it doesn't. When I shut down the computer I get a message on screen that updates are being installed, Windows will shut down when they've finished, and it says something like Installing 1 of 91. Then my machine shuts down obviously before the updates have been installed, so the next time I boot I get the same thing all over again.

Solutions? (Other than buy a real copy of XP2 )

go on to the microsoft update site where it shows update to SP2 and you can order a cd copy free posted to from microsoft its blue in colour so next time you load from cd slap the SP2 disk in and it will update to sp2 then get sp3 download 66meg plus a shit load of custom installs downloads

I thought the received wisdom *cough* of TD was to avoid SP3 like the plague?

I don't know why it should be avoided, I have upgraded two computers without getting problems.
Marmers didn't manage but he is afaik the only one here who got into trouble when upgrading.

What exactly are the benefits of SP3 for someone hypothetically not using a kosher XP and are there any issues with validation/WGA/whatever?

With this release, Windows XP SP3 attempts to create a new baseline for customers still deploying Windows XP, to help them avoid the inconvenience of applying individual updates. In doing so, however, it also installs some individual updates that may have been intentionally skipped during the update process, so that is something to be considered.

Windows XP SP3: Now available as RC, but should I install it?

Something I did with my somewhat moody XP S2 was to have updates on and actually install the genuine windows thingy. It then comes back and tells me I might have a copy and "press next to proceed" . I don't press next, I just close it instead. I then get all 90 odd updates and never worry about that genuine malarky again.

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What should you do now?
For now, just wait until the update appears on the Windows Update or Microsoft Update Web sites, unless you are an adrenaline junkie who likes to live on the wild side!


SP3 is no longer a Release Candidate, it is a final version.
You'll get it through the Microsoft update program and you'll only get those parts needed for your computer, around 70MB if your SP2 is up to date.
The SP3 RC was huge but it contained all major updates since SP2 was released.

From PC Pitstop:

Windows XP SP3 Issues and Fixes Continued

May 25, 2008 by shogan in The Pit Blog
Trainwreck

By now everyone is aware of the problems associated with installing Windows XP SP3. The amount of time and money wasted with this demon is immeasurable. The public’s lack of acceptance of Windows Vista has only added to the feeling of being blindsided by an old friend.
For Free XP SP3 Help and Support, visit this link:
Help and Support or call: 866-234-6020.
I am outlining the problems and providing information to fix the issues found to date. Above all I’m telling you to avoid the problems. Don’t be one the unfortunates that is rear-ended while slowing to view the carnage. Stay far away from this Update. I am not telling you to take preventative measures and then install. I'm telling you to wait, "Do not install SP3."
DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS XP SP3.
Only for testing, I installed this viper three times. I also removed it three times. A seemingly simple and straightforward installation with no obvious problems does not mean there are no problems. All of my experiences are anecdotal, like Microsoft Word not working after SP3 installation. The problem ceasing with SP3 removal proves nothing, but when it happens twice, I must attribute it to the service pack. Rather than continuing to coupe the fallen victim, lets get on with it.
1. Registry Corruption After Installing Windows XP SP3. Starting one day after the May 6th release, users were reporting problems with their network connections. Reports of vanishing connections and missing network cards were pouring in. Bewildered users on the Microsoft support site noted the link between Symantec Corps, Norton Internet Security, and the huge number of broken registry entries all beginning with “$%&”.
Users were quick to point fingers but Symantec responded that there was no cause and effect found between their software and this problem. Even so, Symantec’s Senior Director, David Cole was quoted by Gregg Keizer of ComputerWorld as saying “Once we’ve figured out how may customers this affects, [an automated tool] is absolutely possible. If there is something we can do to address the problem, we’ll do it.”
True to his word, on May 23rd David Cole identified the problem as a particular Microsoft file named “fixccs.exe. This .exe file is a part of both SP2 and SP3, which explains why similar problems were seen with the XP SP2 release. "We finally got to the bottom of this last night," said Dave Cole, Symantec's senior director of product management for consumer software. "All of these problems are related to the same thing, a Microsoft file that created all the garbage entries [in the registry]."
Check out our XP SP3 Survey
The long and short of it is that Symantec has done the work for Microsoft, who has still not responded. The smart user will refrain from installing Windows XP SP3.
1. FIX
If you are one of the “rear-ended”, there is now a fix. Our own Doug Bender spent many hours reproducing this problem and trying various fixes. There are some needed conditions but he did come up with an acceptable fix.
Reboot your computer and enter SafeMode. You can reach SafeMode by tapping the F8 or F5 key during the boot process. After entering SafeMode you will need to run as Administrator and restore your system to a time before SP3 was installed: Start/Help and Support/System Restore/Restore to an earlier time. Without entering SafeMode and running as Administrator you will not be able to restore or remove the offending service pack. Upon rebooting SP3 will no longer show up in the Add/Remove programs list and you will no longer find the multitude of $%& registry entries.
2. XP SP3 removes previous restore points from System Restore. One of the first things I noticed after installing SP 3 was that my one and only restore point was missing. I keep my allotted System Restore space to a minimum and make sure I have at least one up to date restore. Normally, when you install an update, Windows will create a new restore point for the update. Because this is such a large update, the 1035 MB of space I had set aside was not enough. Instead of just not installing the new update, SP3 decided to also delete my previous restore point. This left me with no ability to use system restore. Windows Help and Support said I had the option of restoring; there was a “bold” date showing, but no option to restore. To confirm, I repeated this several times and finally was able to prevent the problem by raising my restore space to a whopping 5035 MB. There is no excuse for Microsoft removing my restore point. I consider it a serious intrusion and feel rear-ended.
2. NO FIX
Microsoft should absolutely give a WARNING and advise how much space is needed before allowing the install of SP3. There is no fix for this, meaning that once the restore point is gone there is no getting it back. The only thing that can be done is to raise your allotted restore space before installing SP3. If you have already installed SP3 be sure to check your System Restore settings. Raise your allowed space to 5035 MB and create a restore point. Be sure to do this before being rear-ended by Auto Updates.
3. XP SP3 and Windows Home Server. It’s reported by users of Windows Home Server that SP3 disables terminal Services Active X control in Internet Explorer, by default. This prevents users from accessing their systems remotely.
3. FIX
There is a fix for this problem. You will need to enable Terminal Services ActiveX control in IE 7. To do this, open Internet Explorer and click on Tools/Manage Add-Ons/Enable Add-Ons in IE.
If you do not see “enable the terminal Service ActiveX control in IE7 on XPSP3”, the only work around is to delete the following registry keys:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ext \Settings\{7390f3d8-0439-4c05-91e3-cf5cb290c3d0} HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Ext \Settings\{4eb89ff4-7f78-4a0f-8b8d-2bf02e94e4b2)
WARNING, PC Pitstop does not suggest making registry deletions. We are only reporting what is suggested on other forums for dealing with this problem. If you do this, it is at your own risk.
4. Branded versions of IE7 crash during installation. For those who have already updated and installed XP SP3, you may have problems installing IE7 offered by your ISP. These “Branded Copies” from Comcast, Qwest and others, tend to crash during the installation. This is because they are older versions of IE 7. Updated IE7 Administration Kits are available to the ISPs from Microsoft’s TechNet site. These are needed to make the necessary changes before offering the IE7 upgrade. Before installing IE7 from your Internet Service Provider at least call to be sure they have made the necessary changes.
4. FIX
My suggestion and Fix is, if you must have IE7, download and install it from the Windows Website.
5. HP/AMD desktop and SP3. Because HP added a command to load a particular driver on their install disks, some of their AMD based desktops are subject to endless reboots or blue screens after installing Windows XP SP3.
We first reported on this problem in our May 15th news letter. At that time we provided information from Jesper's Blog on various preventative measures and fixes. Today I suggest the patch offered by HP to prevent the problem. This is not a fix and the patch must be applied before installing SP3.
5. FIX
If you’ve already been rear-ended and need a fix, the best I can offer is to remove the offending SP3 from your computer. Because “not booting” is the problem, you will need to use the Microsoft Recovery Console. The following Microsoft Help and Support article also outlines using the Add/Remove Programs options and System Restore Options. Steps for restoring your registry can be found on the Microsoft Help and Support site here.
6. SP3 and AMD motherboards (A8N 32SLI Deluxe). After installing SP 3, users receive an error code stating "Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer. Your system BIOS is not ACPI compliant." There just hasn’t been much reported on this issue but I can attest to past BIOS issues with the A8N board listed above. In fact I have three of these boards stacked in my closet. There is still no fix, that I found, other than to be sure you have a usb device plugged in so the board will boot. That can be in the form of a USB storage device or even a USB mouse. Checking the Asus site I see the latest bios for this board is dated March 20th 2007 so that tells me that ASUS has done nothing to prevent the problem.
6. FIX
This rather unprofessional fix reminds me of putting electric tape on a leaky radiator hose, but so far that’s all we have. If you have installed SP3 to your AMD/Asus based computer, cannot boot, and feel rear-ended, the fix is to stick a USB device in your machine. How pitiful is that?
7. AutoUpdate. Automatic Updating is a problem unto itself. As outlined earlier in this article you may loose your restore points because of a lack of restore spcae. You an also experience any of the problems outlined above because Automatic Updates installed this mess without your knowledge. The fixes or lack of fixes can vary with each individual situation. Rather than a fix, I suggest avoiding the problem completely.

7. PREVENTION
There are a couple of ways to prevent this problem. The most obvious is to turn off Auto Updates. Start/Control Panel/Security/Turn Off Automatic Updates/. You can also turn it off in Services. Start/Run/type"services.msc" without the quotes/Automatic Updates/Stop/Disable/Apply/OK.
If you would like to continue with updates but avoid Service Pack 3, use this helpful link provided my Drew Mathers. The link and download are from Microsoft's Website. It stops Automatic Updates from downloading service pack 3 for one year. I'm including it here incase you want updates but not service packs. Thanks Drew.
New problems seem to be surfacing almost hourly. Many times in the last 72 hours I’ve stopped writing only to go back and add additional information as it surfaced. Articles and rewrites of articles abound on the Internet but mostly people are getting rear-ended after installing Windows XP SP3. Both the HP/AMD problem and the Norton/SP3 problem, have very similar reports dating back to the SP2 roll out years back. You gotta wonder why Microsoft doesn’t learn. Surely Microsoft has employees with more than 4 years tenure. Since it’s been almost four years since the first release of SP2, there has certainly been time to get it right.
Without getting back into to the “Whose To Blame” game, it appears that even in the case of the HP/AMD issue, there is more involved than HP’s added dll instructions. Clearly the responsibility for a clean and problem free Service Pack sits on Microsoft.
Oh, by the way, have you hard anything from Microsoft other than the sound of squeeeeeling tires as you get rear-ended?

Link: Windows XP SP3 Issues and Fixes Continued | PC Pitstop

Maybe not on topic but it would seem I've got fake windows! What can I do?

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Maybe not on topic but it would seem I've got fake windows! What can I do?

So Google XP serials - or try to get em on torrents.