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    Is this dangerous?



    In some posts, like the above, I see the picture "Your IP...". The areas I have pixelated showed my IP number and ISP name.

    Is this a standard advertising allowed by TD, or is it a virus or some other dangerous thing?

    Do others see this picture when looking at the OP in the thread https://teakdoor.com/jokes-and-funny-stories/27386-how-about-them-micks.html ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupa View Post

    In some posts, like the above, I see the picture "Your IP...". The areas I have pixelated showed my IP number and ISP name.

    Is this a standard advertising allowed by TD, or is it a virus or some other dangerous thing?

    Do others see this picture when looking at the OP in the thread https://teakdoor.com/jokes-and-funny-stories/27386-how-about-them-micks.html ?

    This "device" is harmless you can download for yourself at : Danasoft Hacker Graphic - Blogs, MySpace Graphic and Generator, Profiles, Forum Signatures

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    The cool thing about this graphic is that when people see it, they think their private information (like their city or IP address) is being publicly shown on your Myspace profile, blog, or forum, and they think that other people can see their private info! Their first thought is, "hey, how did my IP address get on this website?!", or "why is this website telling people where are live?!" In reality, they are the only one that can see their private info, because the graphic is created in real-time for each person who sees is. When you see the graphic, you will see your IP. When others see the graphic, they will see their IP.
    Most of the blog widgets, Myspace graphics and Myspace generators out there are pretty junky. We think the danasoft graphic is a much more stylish way to jazz up your Myspace profile, your blog, or your website, and there's no better way to freak people out and make them think that you are publishing their private info.
    Of course, you can also customize the graphic with your own unique sayings: stuff like, "You are being tracked!", or "I am watching you.", or "You are not anonymous" - you can write anything you want to on your personal sign.
    This sign makes people realize how vulnerable they are when surfing the web. If you're visiting this site wondering how we know your IP address, you should know that your IP address is automatically shown to every website you visit, including this one. Even if you just view an image from a website, like the Danasoft graphic, your IP is broadcast to that site. If that matters to you, make sure your computer is protected by a firewall, and consider using an anonymous IP browser.

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    Now you got me curious as to how that graphic got into the post of blackgang. Did blackgang write some code into his post or put an attachment there that read my IP and place the information there for me to see? It looks very much like an advertisement to me, ie an invitation to visit that website and perhaps download some software.

    Who did what to make it appear on my screen? Was it done with the knowledge and approval of the owners of TD?

    I thought I knew a few things about the web but I cannot see anything in the post that would make that graphic appear in that post:

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Paddy and Bridgett had just got married. It was their wedding night in the bridal suite. Bridgett was lying on her back on the bed in an incredible shimmering silky negligee whimpering, "Take me Paddy. Take me now!" Paddy (having been a good catholic boy) was a virgin and didn't have the faintest idea what to do next. Suddenly he had a brilliant idea. He dashed out of the room and went to reception to ring his mum for advice. Her advice was to put the hardest part of his body into where Bridgett pees. Paddy was a bit dubious about this but his mother assured him that Bridgett would love it. Paddy came back in to the bedroom triumphantly, asked Bridgett if she was ready. Bridgett shouted, "Yes, Yes, I'm ready!" Then she watched in amazement as Paddy ran into the bathroom and put his head down the toilet.

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    Yes Kupa,you are being watched!





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    What I question is that you mention a firewall blocking it out?But I have a fire wall. Why isn't it blocking it?
    I've been trying to convince so called 'computer experts' that this type of tracing technology exists for years and all I get is arguments from IT people.. Especially here they just don't have a real clue..
    Silent but deadly.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    Silent but deadly.....
    Are you referring to your farts? Read how it works again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momo8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    Silent but deadly.....
    Are you referring to your farts? Read how it works again.
    Draw your own conclusions.....It read that a firewall protects.. or I wouldn't have asked the question, thank you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin View Post
    What I question is that you mention a firewall blocking it out?But I have a fire wall. Why isn't it blocking it?
    I've been trying to convince so called 'computer experts' that this type of tracing technology exists for years and all I get is arguments from IT people.. Especially here they just don't have a real clue..
    Please re-read:
    This sign makes people realize how vulnerable they are when surfing the web. If you're visiting this site wondering how we know your IP address, you should know that your IP address is automatically shown to every website you visit, including this one. Even if you just view an image from a website, like the Danasoft graphic, your IP is broadcast to that site. If that matters to you, make sure your computer is protected by a firewall, and consider using an anonymous IP browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsalleh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin View Post
    What I question is that you mention a firewall blocking it out?But I have a fire wall. Why isn't it blocking it?
    I've been trying to convince so called 'computer experts' that this type of tracing technology exists for years and all I get is arguments from IT people.. Especially here they just don't have a real clue..
    Please re-read:
    This sign makes people realize how vulnerable they are when surfing the web. If you're visiting this site wondering how we know your IP address, you should know that your IP address is automatically shown to every website you visit, including this one. Even if you just view an image from a website, like the Danasoft graphic, your IP is broadcast to that site. If that matters to you, make sure your computer is protected by a firewall, and consider using an anonymous IP browser.
    As it says "If that matters to you, make sure your computer is protected by a firewall". Same question as before, It does matter to me and I do have a firewall, so why doesn't it block it?

    By the way an IP is shite anyway here because mine says I'm operating in Bangkok but I'm in Phuket??

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    Look Genius, It is not invasive software, so block Signatures and it will not be there or why not just shut down your PC?

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    Why are you so worried Kupa?

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    Look. The Internet is a routed network. The only way the little packets of data (web pages, e-mail messages, etc.) can get to your computer is if they "know" your IP address. So, when you computer requests some data it has to include your IP address so the server (web server, e-mail server, etc.) knows where to send the stuff.

    There are ways around this, but a firewall is not one of them. The only thing a firewall can do is block certain kinds of traffic. It cannot hide your IP address. One of the reasons people use proxy servers is so that their IP address is hidden from the web sites they visit. But, even though the proxy can hide your IP address from servers, the data that comes back to your computer will still contain your IP address.

    Here's what the graphic looks like when I'm not using a proxy:



    And here's what it looks like when I am using a proxy:



    And, I don't care if you know what my IP address is because I have a decent firewall and the IP will change as soon as I reboot my modem....

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    Of course if you know someone's IP address and they are online then you can trace it using




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    ^ To some extent only, if I am on a TT+T line in Songkhla, or on a CAT line in Pattani, the IP will always show the head office, means BKK for both providers and not the originating mail from Pattani (or Songkhla).
    If I use wireless in Phuket, I have a Hatyai provider as IP address, because it is routed through Hatyai. So you can trace me but it will show Cat or TT+T Bangkok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock View Post
    Why are you so worried Kupa?
    I am not worried. Just curious, trying to understand how these things work.

    If it's an advertisement sanctioned by the website owners, I will understand. If it's an individual poster's advertisement and he makes some money out of it, I am happy for him.

    I know that some website operators -- often online shops -- make it a point to read and record a user's IP address, usually for a good reason, and I have no issue with that, either. I believe it can help to track down fraudulent credit card users, for example.

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    There is software that you can get to read and track IP numbers, want me to fire it up and tell you yours??
    Neo Trace is a good one.

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    Thanks. I've got NeoTrace on my computer already. It wouldn't tell me what your IP is, though. I would need to know your IP first and then I could trace it. Or if I have a domain name, I can look up its IP and location.

    So how does that graphic with my IP and my ISP's location get into some of your posts? Like I said, I am not worried or upset, just curious how it is done. If you are the webmaster of this site it is probably quite simple, but if you are not then I find it fascinating. The URL given in the graphic gives code that one can add to one's FaceBook blog to show the reader his IP, but this here is not FaceBook. Or does it work here, too, like in FaceBook?

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    Incidentally, blackgang, given your avatar you may be interested in this news article about a painting of a fat woman:

    Lifesize painting | Jobcentre supervisor | Naked on sofa | Auction record | The Sun |HomePage|News

    Last edited by Kupa; 14-04-2008 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupa
    So how does that graphic with my IP and my ISP's location get into some of your posts? Like I said, I am not worried or upset, just curious how it is done.
    When your browser requests the image (hosted at another site) an application is called to generate the image from a stock image and other parameters. Your Ip address is of course provided as requesting this item so thats easy. With the IP address the ISP can be found with a simple lookup and provided as well. the application the combines the stock image with the data passed to it and returns to you a jpeg image complete with the data rendered using fonts on the server. Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupa
    Incidentally, blackgang, given your avatar you may be interested in this news article about a painting of a fat woman:
    Did your wife give you permission to post her picture on the web for all to see?? and she does appear to have Russian ancestry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupa
    Is this a standard advertising allowed by TD, or is it a virus or some other dangerous thing?
    Only you will see your ip with danasoft, everybody else will see their own ip, if you are in Thailand you share your ip with thousands and it will generally resolve to Bangkok, all servers and sites that you visit can see your ip.

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    Originally Posted by Kupa= Is this a standard advertising allowed by TD, or is it a virus or some other dangerous thing?
    No It has nothing to do with TD, it is something I do myself to bait shallow minded people and is has finally worked after using it for 5 years.

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    Thank you for the explanation, blackgang.

    I was -- and continue to be -- puzzled why I see it in only a few of your posts, not all. I see no code for it in the post itself, which I guess means that you put it in your signature. The signature -- again my guess -- is normally the same for all posts. Are you changing it, to include the code for the danasoft picture, occacsionally for just one post at a time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Only you will see your ip with danasoft, everybody else will see their own ip, if you are in Thailand you share your ip with thousands
    My IP is dynamic and thus changes from time to time, I'm not quite sure how it works. I understand it is when somebody has a static IP that he has to make extra sure to have a good firewall up at all times as otherwise knowledge of his IP could enable somebody to hack into his computer.

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