Thread: Mac Users

I looked at buying a Mac, they are appreciably more expensive though. And my 'but they look cool' rational didn't quite cut it with Mrs R.

anyone using a Mac for work should have their head checked

^^ It's ok for you (being a rich b'stard) but not everyone has money to waste.

having money has got nothing to do with it.

Buying 1 mac is cheaper then buying 2 pcs.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

anyone using a Mac for work should have their head checked

Why?

I had them in my business for 10 years. The first 3 or 4 years were crap because I didn't understand them and basically they were crap machines. The last years they were briallant.

Bill Gates is working on a Mac virus.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

anyone using a Mac for work should have their head checked

Why?

I used to run the IT Support division for a fairly large company in the UK, we had roughly the same number of Macs and PC's on contract cover.

For every one Mac engineer, I needed five experienced PC ones. When OSX was released and stable most of the calls performed by the Mac engineers were 'courtesy calls' we had to be seen to be doing something for the money.

Most non-savvy businesses only see the original capital cost of the hardware and do not take into account revenue lost by down-time and the cost of ongoing support.

Over a sustained period, the true cost of a PC is considerably higher than a Mac.

Are people here talking about hardware or software when they say Mac and PC? Seems to me that makes a big difference.

I agree with Thadues - when OSX came out my office changed for the better.

the hardware is the same nowadays isn't it? Except that Macs look funky and therefore cost twice as much.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

the hardware is the same nowadays isn't it? Except that Macs look funky and therefore cost twice as much.

This coming from the bloke who only an hour ago said "Savvy businesses will buy 2 PCs which will perform the same (as a mac) for the same money"

Make up ya mind will ya.

Originally Posted by MeMock

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

the hardware is the same nowadays isn't it? Except that Macs look funky and therefore cost twice as much.

This coming from the bloke who only an hour ago said "Savvy businesses will buy 2 PCs which will perform the same (as a mac) for the same money"

Make up ya mind will ya.

As in a PC will perform as well as a Mac costing twice as much. So you can buy two and get twice as much bang for your buck.

I know you're an Aussie, but jeez....

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Bill Gates is working on a Mac virus.

Other way round Apple shipped a bunch of video Ipods with a pre-installed windows virus, RavMon.exe last year. When they were taken to task about it apple said

As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses

Respect to Apple!

I fear their arrogance will snap back at them one day.

Marmite, you a Mac user?

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Marmite, you a Mac user?

No. I'm not a spendthrift.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by MeMock

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

the hardware is the same nowadays isn't it? Except that Macs look funky and therefore cost twice as much.

This coming from the bloke who only an hour ago said "Savvy businesses will buy 2 PCs which will perform the same (as a mac) for the same money"

Make up ya mind will ya.

As in a PC will perform as well as a Mac costing twice as much. So you can buy two and get twice as much bang for your buck.

I know you're an Aussie, but jeez....

Nice try trying to worm out of that one mate but sorry I just don't buy it!

I'm gonna save that quote and dine out on it for years to come!

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Marmite, you a Mac user?

He's a wannabee Mr Scamp.

Can't afford one so just hangs out on every mac thread he can find!

For me it's not a cost issue, sure Macs look lovely and looks great in your living room and make you look a bit gay (nothing wrong with that) but frankly in terms of usability, Windows XP are doing far more, that is if you know how to use a real computer.

But if you are a clueless tard, then maybe a PocketPC or a mobile with an embedded OS might be more appropriate, the Mac is not going to answer your needs.

Mac: beautiful design for gay computer geeks
PC: powerful reliable machines for real men who love real computers

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Marmite, you a Mac user?

No. I'm not a spendthrift.

...Said the Datsun driver to the Aston Martin driver.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

For me it's not a cost issue, sure Macs look lovely and looks great in your living room and make you look a bit gay (nothing wrong with that) but frankly in terms of usability, Windows XP are doing far more, that is if you know how to use a real computer.

How so?

Microsoft Office was available for the Mac long before Windows, all the Adobe proiducts likewise and there isn't any website that isn't just as accessible through Safari or Firefox for Mac than the PC.

One of the loudest shouts for the PC has always been "but there's so much more software" ...... yes there is..... but who needs 20 different word processing applications.... it's never been a valid argument, never will be.

When it comes to high-end graphics processing, be it still or animated, flat or rendered, the Mac beat the PC into submission years ago. It's a computer designed from the ground up with graphics in mind, even back in '84 the original Mac had a processing chip on-board purely to handle colour graphics (even though the monitor was B/W, that's what you call forward thinking)

The only box that has come close is the NeXT, another little Jobbs project. The basic architecture of the PC hasn't changed much in 30 years, it's only the fact that the processors are now that fast that prevent Windoze from appearing as a clunky workaround to bad hardware design.

Buy a computer to suit your personal needs, PC's and Macs do different things, a mac has been designed as a media tool and works much more efficiently in that field. I use a mac and think that it was good value for my money as it does everything I need. If a PC does what you need buy one of them then.

Originally Posted by Thaddeus

When it comes to high-end graphics processing, be it still or animated, flat or rendered, the Mac beat the PC into submission years ago.

That's urban legend, it has been proven many times over than Macs are slower even in the graphics department. Most of Adobe products run faster on a PC etc... and to make things worse, Macs had to use a PC manufacturer of Video Cards to catch up with the rest of the market as Apple products couldn't compete anymore. Macs are slow machine per design period. The OS couldn't compete in terms of usability and speed with modern PC. Macs had an edge until 1997 because Windows wasn't ready for prime time. That changed with WinNT 4.0, which became a reliable and fast OS, doing things much more efficiently than a Mac could dream of. That was the beginning of the end for the MacOS

Originally Posted by Thaddeus

The only box that has come close is the NeXT, another little Jobbs project

It was a joke project, a MacTen Unix Box with a nice X11 User Interface. Nothing accomplished in that project. Actually most of the problems of the current MacOS X are coming from the integration of that failed project into current Apple OS components.

FFS , boys and their toys

Neither a PC nor a Mac is a "real man's" computer, whatever that means anyway. They're appliances, consumer systems for home and business, churned out by the million for everybody from game players to coders to full-time perverts. At best they can be nodes in a "real man's" computer. Get over it, our little boxes of tricks are just little boxes of tricks, powerful yes, does cool things, yes, but hardly something to be bragging about. You might as well be showing off your washing machines.

These are real (man's?) computers, even tho some pics show lots of racks each picture shows one, single, computer;