Thread: What computer should I buy?

how old are you baldrick, seriously ?

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by baldrick

12k for an evo 960 500g

M.2 drives are still quite expensive..

I bought the 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD for 11k more than 2 years ago and have just ordered a WD Blue 1TB SSD from invade.it. also 11k baht.
Will sit in the 2nd SSD bay of my laptop and will be re-used in other laptops when this one get obsoleted in a year or so.

Current laptop is about to give in so I'm now looking for a replacement.
The one I'm thinking to buy has a 128GB M.2 SSD SATA drive + 1TB harddisk, 128GB is too small since I will be running at least 3 operating systems so will put in a 500GB SSD instead.
Can I expect that an M.2 NVME drive will work or do I have to buy the cheaper and slower M.2 SATA drive?

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

how old are you baldrick, seriously ?

18

Which is a tad higher than Buttplug's IQ I fancy.

Originally Posted by baldrick

M.2 is a socket connected to the PCI-E bus and you do not want less than 4x - 4 lanes not sure what a M.2 sata is - I know you can buy adapters for a M.2 stick to fit inside and have a sata 3 interface , but unless you are futureproofing your SSD purchase - though they will become cheaper anyway - the sata 3 6gbs will limit your i/o to the SSD what is the actual laptop you are considering ?

I think I have sussed it out now with the help of online resources, for instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#Fo...ors_and_keying

B and M keying seem to be the most common ones in laptops and it is important to know which keying your laptop has, one of them has only 2 x pcie while the other has 4 x pcie.
Both of them has the SATA pins and there are M.2 SSD which are SATA only, Invade.it has one and the transfer rate discloses it.

The laptop in question was a 2 year old MSI gaming laptop which had a M.2 SSD SATA which could be swapped out for a M.2 pcie SSD.
Laptop mfgrs in general are quick to advertise that they have one or two M.2 connectors but they seldom tell which type, you can sometimes find it out by looking at the spec for the SSD they use.

the 2 lane M.2 PCI-E was the older x99 northbridge chipset , while the 170 came with 4 lanes , and now the 270 same and so on

my laptop has a half size miniPCIE - I purchased a 128gig to install in it ( OS's ) - I could never find the speeds associated with the port

I believe it was more intended to take a radio card

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

how old are you baldrick, seriously ?

18

Which is a tad higher than Buttplug's IQ I fancy.

you are slipping Harry, can't do better than that ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I have to keep the simple, otherwise you won't understand them.

you work in an Indian call center, what's to understand in the first place

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I have to keep the simple, otherwise you won't understand them.

you work in an Indian call center, what's to understand in the first place

I do wish you'd make your mind up. I thought I was an "oil company shill" or something?

Just got a new Dell desktop for home. Inspiron Desktop (Intel) | Dell United States
Seems to have plenty of power, but the Windows 10 OS takes a bit of getting used to. Beautiful graphics on a 21" monitor. Office home edition chucked in also for total package less than 38,000 Baht. Vertical CD/DVD tray makes a lot of racket though, dunno if that's normal? Three year warranty, so hopefully shouldn't be an issue.

Originally Posted by kmart

but the Windows 10 OS takes a bit of getting used to

classic shell to revert to xp like interface Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements
shutup10 to turn off most of the data stealing telemetry https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

^Whoa! Thanks, baldrick. That makes a difference.

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by kmart

but the Windows 10 OS takes a bit of getting used to

classic shell to revert to xp like interface Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements
shutup10 to turn off most of the data stealing telemetry https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Don't turn off too much telemetry or you'll bugger up Windows Update.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I have to keep the simple, otherwise you won't understand them.

you work in an Indian call center, what's to understand in the first place

I do wish you'd make your mind up. I thought I was an "oil company shill" or something?

you work for an oil company in an Indian call center

Originally Posted by kmart

Just got a new Dell desktop for home. Inspiron Desktop (Intel) | Dell United States

just too fucking gay for words,

Lenovo laptop's the way to go these days.

are you going to play games like a teenager like Harry

or do some serious wanking with it ?

that's the only question you need to ask yourself,

MacBooks for years now. Completely hassle free. Always works. Never even had antivirus. Trackpad is awesome. Fast as hell. SSD. Features galore. Rarely need to download anything for it. "Pages", their Microsoft word equivalent, costs $19 dollars from the App Store. $19 dollars and does everything word does, even exports to Word docs. Get their suite for pocket change compared to hundreds of dollars for legit copies of Microsoft's suite.

Cant go wrong. Only downfall is the price but its worth it IMO.

Not really the best if one is a gamer & needs a dedicated game machine, but can game also with Parallels.

Originally Posted by Slick

MacBooks for years now. Completely hassle free. Always works. Never even had antivirus. Trackpad is awesome. Fast as hell. SSD. Features galore. Rarely need to download anything for it. "Pages", their Microsoft word equivalent, costs $19 dollars from the App Store. $19 dollars and does everything word does, even exports to Word docs. Get their suite for pocket change compared to hundreds of dollars for legit copies of Microsoft's suite.

Cant go wrong. Only downfall is the price but its worth it IMO.

Not really the best if one is a gamer & needs a dedicated game machine, but can game also with Parallels.

If you think OSX is secure, you're *almost* a bigger idiot than buttplug.

Originally Posted by kmart

Okay, for the money what should I have bought?

if you are just going to use it to browse the interwebs and post on teakdoor it is probably perfect

no actual specifications on that page just marketing blurb

From basic computing needs to digital library and multi-media entertainment center, the new Inspiron Desktop offers powerful and reliable performance, perfect for the living room or home office.

Built-in connectivity: Stay connected with the latest integrated WiFi and Bluetooth technology.

Immersive audio: Enjoy 5.1 channel sound professionally tuned by Waves MaxxAudio® Pro for a truly immersive entertainment experience.

Enhanced entertainment: Easily connect to tablets, TVs or large displays for video streaming or casual gaming with convenient access to VGA, HDMI out and 6 USB ports.

just understand that it is not really an upgradable machine - when you look at the photo of the back of it you can see that the power supply looks quite small , so you are unlikely to be able to add much in the way of discrete graphics power - though you could add a real power supply later as there is the space

^Thanks again baldrick for some tangible help. Green owed.

Just need the machine for home internet, music, occasional work, etc.