Thread: New Macbooks not user-upgradable any more...

Originally Posted by Koojo

Because if it's true that you are unaware you really do have a problem.

If you consider that to be the sign of "obsessed nutcase", maybe you could explain to me what you would describe or define "spending a great deal more hours on an internet forum reloading threads in order to post missives ridiculing other poster's comments"

I have a feeling that the above, and which is what you, Baldric, butterfly, HarryBarracuda and 1 or 2 others do, qualifies far more for "obsessive nutcase" than what you falsely attribute to me. Not quite at the Ant Robertson level yet, but certainly getting there.

So, how about it? (crickets...)

Hmmm.. cat got your tongue, eh?

Funny how easy it is to shut you up. You sure you don't want to take a stab at answering the tough questions, Mr. Pot?

... maybe you could explain to me what you would describe or define "spending a great deal more hours on an internet forum reloading threads in order to post missives ridiculing other poster's comments"

I have a feeling that the above, and which is what you, Baldric, butterfly, HarryBarracuda and 1 or 2 others do, qualifies far more for "obsessive nutcase" than what you falsely attribute to me. Not quite at the Ant Robertson level yet, but certainly getting there.

So, how about it? (crickets...chirp, chirp!)

Quack Quack is raving mad, isn't he ?

Yes, but myself, baldrick, butterfly harrybarracuda et els obsessive thread reloading are not the topic of conversation here.
You and our obsessive apple fixation is.

Double-standards - how refreshing.

No, actually your obsessive reloading of threads (and thank you so much for admitting to it), is exactly what this is all about.

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Double-standards - how refreshing.

No, actually your obsessive reloading of threads (and thank you so much for admitting to it), is exactly what this is all about.

Good, so there'll be no more nonsense about this apple rubbish then.

There'll be plenty of that when there's news - but since we just established in the other thread that you are not qualified to label it as "rubbish" since you don't even know what you are talking about, your objections and critiques, moving forward, are moot - as they are borne from ignorance.

^ name us some more of your catalog of labels to highlight your consumer victim status

^ sez the guy prancing around decked out in GAP and crocodile shirts -- fashion victim.

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

There'll be plenty of that when there's news - but since we just established in the other thread that you are not qualified to label it as "rubbish" since you don't even know what you are talking about, your objections and critiques, moving forward, are moot - as they are borne from ignorance.

You said this thread was all about
My reloading threads so please try and stay on topic.
By the way, I never refresh individual thrreads, only 'new replies' ( and this keeps popping up at the top)

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

^ sez the guy prancing around decked out in GAP and crocodile shirts -- fashion victim.

You really are a label concious consumer aren't you.
Are you sure you're not a girl?

[QUOTE=Koojo;2133349]

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

You said this thread was all about
My reloading threads so please try and stay on topic.
By the way, I never refresh individual thrreads, only 'new replies' ( and this keeps popping up at the top)

Same thing, really.

So, have you gotten comfortable yet with your new realization that you are an obsessive nutcase?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

^ sez the guy prancing around decked out in GAP and crocodile shirts -- fashion victim.

You really are a label concious consumer aren't you.
Are you sure you're not a girl?

You mean, Baldric is - he's the one prancing around in labelware.

right, so you agree with butterfly that apple products are shit?

over the years I have had ibm, fujitsu, sony, hp, toshiba and apple laptops.

Fujitsu was the most unreliable, had it for 2 months, of which 6 weeks was having it fixed.

After that I have to say its that macbook pro which has been the worst. I tend to use laptops for about 3-5 years between upgrades. And with the exception of the fajitsu the macbook pro has been the worst.

Its the only laptop where I have had to replace batteries, three in 4 years, the only one where the paint rubbed off the keyboard, the only one where the screen developed bright patches. I had apple care and with the exceptions of the first battery and a dvd drive as far as everything else is conceded its my problem not theirs.

I have a ibm x series ultra portable thats about 8 years old. Its very usable under xp, on its original battery and looks almost new.

So given that I use laptops as a desktop replacement, I just cannot see how I could buy any of apples current range of computers. I will need to upgrade this year as 3G ram is not enough anymore, and I think its going to be a windows 7/8 machine with osx running under vmware.

I would say that apple stuff looks good, and looking good is given priority over reliability and usability. so yes they are shit to own

of course they are shit to own, they are consumer goods to be thrown away and replaced as soon as a new one come out

^That must be what they meant when the apple care guys told me, that my faults were my problem and not theirs.... I had dutifully ignored 3 opportunities to replace my laptop with newer models

Originally Posted by hazz

Its the only laptop where I have had to replace batteries, three in 4 years, the only one where the paint rubbed off the keyboard, the only one where the screen developed bright patches. I had apple care and with the exceptions of the first battery and a dvd drive as far as everything else is conceded its my problem not theirs.

How many years ago was that?

Does it look like this one?

its 4 years old.
no it doesn't, and that is one of the sorryist looking laptops I have seen, they don't age well these apples do they

That's the first Titanium PowerBook. The only one of their Pro laptops with a known issue of paint flaking off. The hand rest - which is why I am curious about your story.

Was it an aluminium model?

aluminium paint simply wore off some of the keys, applecare felt i typed too much. As I said for a premium product they are very fragile

Originally Posted by hazz

aluminium paint simply wore off some of the keys, applecare felt i typed too much. As I said for a premium product they are very fragile

Let me guess - you tried to have it serviced in Thailand?

Yes, the key paint coming off was an issue with a couple of them - it was one of those situations where I scratched my head over why they would paint a part that would be frequently exposed to oils and mechanical wear from the fingers.

That's why they went with molded keys and no paint in the next iteration - albeit they could have just molded the silver color and texture as well. Happened to me, though I got the keyboard replaced under AppleCare twice.

The reason in asking if you had it done in Thailand is because I have heard nothing but nightmare stories from most of the authorized service centers in Bangkok (suspect the same elsewhere). Apple really screwed up with who they authorized in Thailand, though then again, TiT, really.

Several times local Mac owners were covered under AppleCare (notably the power adapters that frayed their cables or had heat damage), only to be told "no covered. 8000 baht for fix". I each of those cases I got Apple corporate involved, who made a direct call to the respective service centers, and the service was immediately performed, with lots of "khaphom this" and "khaphom that". Still, there's some real asses that remain authorized, sadly.

thailand, which in effect means australia, uk and escalated through uk corporate.

At the end of the day they produce fragile products, and charge a very high premium for maintenance; which reflects their knowledge of that fragility and the cost of dealing with it. The problem is that after charging premium prices for everything that they give you dixons service. seriously their internal issues are something I don't have any interest in, but making their problems mine is something I don't forget quickly.

I have to say that whilst I am very annoyed about this, in the long run, they saved me money. I am financially responsible 6 macs and only the first got covered by applecare, the rest wern't on the basis that it was a serious rip off. the cost of repairs on this estate has been much less than applecare probable covered stuff that they would not have covered either.

Originally Posted by hazz

The problem is that after charging premium prices for everything that they give you dixons service.

Ironically, they just hired the Dixons' former VP of Dixons stores to run the Apple Stores.

You are right - their problems should not be yours, and this is universal, one ad experience results in lost sales. They aren't that way anymore (except in Thailand), but in your case, the damage had been done.

Historically, when running into issues, I always escalated directly to Steve Jobs, and invariably had the problems dealt with, and resolved. Lately I had to do the same with Tim Cook, with the same result. They can't solve problems if they don't know about them.