Thread: Apple's Frivolous Patent Bullying tactics doing it no favours

Ah well that didn't last long - I'm guessing most people that would have gone for them have probably bought the SIII instead.

Samsung Galaxy Nexus back on sale in US thanks to Google Android workarounds

by James Laird, 09 July, 2012



The ongoing patent war between Apple and Samsung continues to generate new drama, with the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit now lifting the sales ban recently imposed on the Galaxy Nexus smartphone.
On 30 June, US District Court Judge Lucy Koh embargoed the Galaxy Nexus smartphone by issuing a rare pre-trial injunction and preventing the device from being distributed Stateside.
Making that ruling, Judge Koh ventured that the Samsung mobile infringed on four patents held by Apple, and that the Cupertino-based tech giant stood to lose substantial market share in the absence of a preliminary retail prohibition.
On Friday, the Appeals Court overturned this decision, apparently satisfied with Google's announcement that the Galaxy Nexus would now ship running the most recent incarnation of its operating system, Android 4.1 'Jelly Bean,' which contains software tweaks designed to address the disputed patents - and that version 4.0 'Ice Cream Sandwich' would also be updated with the workarounds.
However, patent blogger Florian Mueller has noted the temporary nature of the ruling and the burden it puts on Samsung's manufacturing arm.
"Samsung can now sell some more of the Nexus units it already has in its US warehouse, but the temporary stay could go away within a matter of days or a very few weeks. Samsung will need to build, and ship to the US, some non-infringing Nexus units anyway to avoid or minimise disruption in case this temporary stay is not extended," Mueller wrote.


The legal onus is now back on Apple, who has until 12 July to register an objection to the latest ruling. The Appeals Court stopped short of lifting the ban on the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which at present remains banned from shelves until the trial, scheduled for 30 July. As a result of the decision, Samsung's Galaxy Nexus has now reappeared as available for purchase in the Google Play store.
Samsung and Apple are among the companies currently locked in tense, patent-related legal battles across the globe, as leading firms vie to expand their share of the smart device market amidst projections of continued growth.

Strike another blow for the good guys.

Samsung Galaxy Tab doesn't copy Apple designs, UK court rules

It's a win for Samsung Electronics, which hasn't fared so well in the legal arena lately. The decision affects three Galaxy Tab models.
by Roger Cheng
July 9, 2012 4:52 AM PDT

The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
(Credit: Josh Miller/CNET)
Score one for Samsung Electronics.





After several legal defeats resulting in a product ban, Samsung finally get a court to side with it. The company said the High Court of England Wales ruled that its Galaxy Tab did not infringe upon Apple's tablet designs, and found 50 different recognizable traits.



The victory is a measure of relief after a few rough weeks in which a U.S. judge ordered a ban on the Galaxy Nexus, resulting in Google pulling it from the Google Play store before putting it back up Saturday. Samsung has filed an appeal and the ban has temporarily lifted.


The moves are part of a broader legal skirmish between the two largest smartphone makers in the world, and part of Apple's legal campaign against Android and any company supporting the operating system. Apple and Samsung have lawsuits filed in different courts around the world, and are looking for a ban or decision so devastating that both companies will be forced to sit down and work out a resolution. So far, both sides have only seen minor victories.

CNET contacted Apple for comment. We'll update the story when the company responds.


Today's ruling affects three versions of the Galaxy Tab, the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Tab 8.9, and Galaxy Tab 7.7. Differences the court cited were the thickness of the devices, front and rear surface designs, and lack of physical buttons.


Samsung said it had requested this voluntary trial to get ahead of Apple's claims its tablets copy the iPad and its design. Samsung said it welcomed today's ruling.

It's funny you "forgot" to include the actual statement by the judge, regarding his ruling:

The design for three Galaxy tablets doesn’t infringe Apple’s registered design, Judge Colin Birss said today in London in a court fight between the world’s two biggest makers of smartphones. Consumers aren’t likely to get the tablet computers mixed up, he said.

Oh, and in closing:

The Galaxy tablets “do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design,” Birss said. “They are not as cool.”

Wow, even the law agrees.

British Judge: Samsung Tab Design 'Not As Cool' As iPad - Hardware - Handhelds/PDAs - Informationweek

Samsung Galaxy Tab 'Not As Cool' As Apple's iPad, Judge Rules

Why would I mention that that judge thinks Ipads are prettier?

Who gives a fuck?

The Galaxy tablets “do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design,” Birss said. “They are not as cool.”

Just because it's worth repeating. Apple should just use that in their advertising.

Oh, I know why you didn't use that quote - you saw it, and carefully removed it from what you quoted. Priceless to see you on the ropes as such.

Why would they need to use it in their advertising? That's the only reason people buy them anyway.

"That's extremely expensive for a tablet with limited functionality".

"Yes, but it's COOL! *Blink* *Blink*".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"That's extremely expensive for a tablet with limited functionality".

There you go, with your misrepresentations and lies again.

iPads are less expensive, on average, than their "competitor" tablets - better build quality, too.

Of course, you prefer not to talk about that.

Stupid assumption really.

According to CNET:

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 review (Verizon 4G - 16GB - Gray)
$529.00

Apple iPad 3 review (March 2012, 16GB, Verizon 4G LTE, black)
$619.00

Do go on....

iPads are less expensive, on average, than their "competitor" tablets

Never mind, that extra 17% is all "coolness", right?

You just keep massaging those numbers, don't you?

Oh, and by your numbers, Apple still owns the entire tablet market, with Samsung sharing the lower 7 percent with every other tablet maker.

Oh, yeah - winning!

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

You just keep massaging those numbers, don't you?

Oh, and by your numbers, Apple still owns the entire tablet market, with Samsung sharing the lower 7 percent with every other tablet maker.

Oh, yeah - winning!

I told *exactly* you where I got the figures from - CNET.

I didn't actually massage anything, in fact I went to great lengths to make sure that both were:

~10"
4G
16G
with Verizon

So prove me wrong or stop bullshitting, eh?

of course, it's cool

that's the angle of marketing that apple is using to make boringly normal and mediocre people feel like they are special

^ In England we used to call that "Care in the Community".

and Jesus gave bread to the mass so they could stop starving from negligence,

1000 years from now, they will teach the scriptures of Jobs in school, with the iPod being the new bible

Steve didn't rise from the dead, and his prophecy of burying Android is yet to pass.


Put him on the try-hard list.

Oh, it will.

My God!!!

You're right, Android is dying!

A new, inexpensive game console built on the Android ecosystem has been funded by gamers clamouring for a change in the games industry.
The console, called Ouya, aims to get developers working on projects for the TV again, rather than smartphones and tablets, and intends to offer exclusively 'free-to-play' games.
What that means is the there will at least be free demos of games, and many will employ a free-to-play model funded by completely optional microtransactions.
The creators of Ouya were asking for $950,000 to fund the project on crowd-funding website Kickstarter. At the time of writing, the project had raised $1,045,170 in twelve hours

^ They got the two mill easily, now they're asking what people want.

But people won't know what they want until Steve tells them what they want!

???

Originally Posted by Plan B

My God!!!

You're right, Android is dying!

I don't see them "winning" - not as long as Andy Rubin remains in charge. The guy's a clueless moron. $12 billion for Motorola. In cash. For ... nothing??

Give them a chance. They may well actually use Motorola to make the next Nexus/Galaxy once they've completed the reorganisation.

They'll have to tread carefully. If they use Motorolla to launch their flagship Android products Samsung, HTC, etc will call foul. Then Google will become just another propriety, corporate fanboy company like Apple.

Originally Posted by Plan B

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

$12 billion for Motorola. In cash. For ... nothing??

For a patent portfolio to counter Apple's stupid bullying campaign. It's not the most intelligent thing to do. Buying a company just to compete with another company playing silly buggers is just like arguing with MacTards on the internet. Pretty much pointless. You can't argue with religious insanity.

Despite Motorola's patent portfolio being universally regarded as useless, for that purpose? Contains a ton of patents unrelated to mobility. Kudos to the Moto guys for putting the fear of God into Rubin and pressing him to green light the purchase and making out like bandits, but as a GOOG shareholder I'd call to replace Rubin.

Originally Posted by Plan B

They'll have to tread carefully. If they use Motorolla to launch their flagship Android products Samsung, HTC, etc will call foul. Then Google will become just another propriety, corporate fanboy company like Apple.

... so, they can't use Moto to create hardware either, then? Brilliant.

Not that it matters, seeing as how Moto consistently builds the worst devices, in the current mobility space. The days of RAZR are long gone.

Originally Posted by Plan B

But people won't know what they want until Steve tells them what they want!

???

That's itards, not people as such.