Thread: Apple's Frivolous Patent Bullying tactics doing it no favours

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

All the time. I bet you they *were* duly representing the parent company and all due diligence was done.

Oh FFS don't take it so personally. They fucked up, get over it.

That's what I said initially until had to keep making up scenarios. It happens, Apple fucks up once in a while, but not really ever twice.

Just like they *really* fucked up with the iPad "4G" designation, for example, or their European AppleCare situation.

And they fucked up telling Australians that the new iPad would work on their 4G.

They didn't fuck up.

They deliberately mislead consumers.

There is a vast difference.

Yes they fucking did, and the judge told them so when he fined them.

Stop being such a pathetic apologist, anyone who indulges in shameful behaviour like this deserves the criticism they get.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And they fucked up telling Australians that the new iPad would work on their 4G.

And in NZ,but it is still a superior product than any android pad.fact.

When android gets better, I will change.Hopefully it's not to far away.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

And in NZ,but it is still a superior product than any android pad.fact.

When android gets better, I will change.Hopefully it's not to far away.

Not likely to happen anytime soon.

Ryan Kim, reporting for GigaOm:

Monetate, which analyzes more than 100 million online shopping experiences, said that in the first quarter of 2012, tablet traffic to commerce sites hit 6.52 percent, overtaking smartphones (5.35 percent) for the first time. In the last year, tablets’ traffic increased 348 percent while smartphones visits grew by 117 percent over the same period.

Which tablets, though?

Almost all of the traffic (95 percent) was from the iPad, said Monetate.

It's amusing how biased reporting always refers to "tablets" in an effort to minimize the iPad impact, yet upon reading one always finds out there is no "tablet market", there is only an "iPad traffic" right now....

Probably exactly for the reasons you pointed out, chuchok!

Getting harder to spin, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Getting harder to spin, isn't it?

Not for me, are you having difficulty?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Getting harder to spin, isn't it?

Not for me, are you having difficulty?

Just the confirmation I needed.

Better bone up on your TEFL, Harry - you'll need it after your tablet fiasco:

Gates: Jobs 'phenomenal,' Surface tablet will disrupt Apple | Electronista

Two incompatible versions.

No 3G

No support for rotation.

It keeps going. This will be fun.

You'll be able to use 3G via one of the full USB ports with support for any future 3G/4G dongle. So you don't need to replace it or wait for a new version like in Australia for example.


Consumer version and Corporate version. Both will run Office and Windows apps, so incompatible with what...... ipad? Good. Those 3-year-olds will be chuffed to bits.

Rotate for what?

This is a Tablet Personal Computer, not a consumer tablet like the ipad.

You really must try harder, it isn't even out yet and you're bleating about it.

I'm surprised you don't admire it, it is pretty, and I thought Appletards like pretty things? I wonder if they do them in British Racing Green?

So now Apple see all those sales going elsewhere, they're going to copy the 7" form factor as I predicted (this before the 4.x inch iPhone comes out).

Innovation my arse.

iPad mini Mass Production starts September says WSJ

The Wall Street Journal hits back at Bloomberg with their own iPad mini rumor. Earlier we reported that Bloomberg reported that an iPad mini comes by year-end to compete with Google and Amazon.

Jul 4 2012, 9:25am CDT | by Luigi Lugmayr





Today, July 4th, the Wall Street Journal reports that Asian component suppliers are preparing for mass production of the iPad mini in September. WSJ's sources in the supply chain say that Apple informed them this week to get ready for the production of the iPad mini.
See also the Bloomberg iPad mini rumor from earlier today.

And the litigious wankers thrown out of court again.

Inovation my arse.

Apple loses critical “Slide to Unlock” patent claim against HTC in the UK courts

The high court has chucked out all of Apple’s patent claims against HTC in the UK, refusing to accept that three out of the four Apple patents put forward in the case were even valid at all, and finding that the fourth patent, which was valid, wasn’t infringed by HTC. So it’s all clear for HTC’s Android plans in the UK.
The judge ruled that Apple’s key “Slide to Unlock” feature was too “obvious” a system to be allowed to stand as a claim. Here’s HTC on the latest turn in this tedious global legal battle:

“Today, the English High Court found that three of four patents claimed by Apple to be infringed by HTC were invalid, and that HTC did not infringe the fourth. One of the invalidated patents is Apple’s flagship ‘slide to unlock’ patent. Apple’s photo management patent was found not to be infringed.
“HTC is pleased with the ruling, which provides further confirmation that Apple’s claims against HTC are without merit.

“We remain disappointed that Apple continues to favour competition in the courtroom over competition in the marketplace.”

The case also included the multi-touch system, which Android makers seemed terrified to implement in the early days of Google’s OS, with judge Mr Justice Floyd finding, again, that HTC’s use of the system was absolutely fine.

So it’s ALL SYSTEMS GO for HTC and Android, apart from in Germany. And the Netherlands. And the US. Apart from that, though, ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO.
Link via the Telegraph.

Seriously, do the cunts want to patent the rectangle next?

Apple don't miss a chance to stiff their poor, gullible and unsuspecting customers, do they? I expect you'll want to call this another "mistake" will you?

Italy Wants To Shut Down Apple Stores For 30 days
July 3, 2012

Michael Harper for redOrbit.com – Your Universe Online

If you buy any Apple product in America, you are instantly given a one-year warranty on the device. So, if for some reason your iPad starts to malfunction or go on the blink within that first year, you can take it back and have it replaced, easy as pie.

However, if you want a little extra coverage, or if you want someone to call for tech support when Google Chrome starts crashing your MacBook Air, you can purchase AppleCare, an additional 2 year warranty which protects you from all sorts of damages and malfunctions for a total of three years.

This arrangement works fine in America and other countries, but the nation of Italy doesn’t take too kindly to Apple’s offer to sell extra coverage. In fact, under Italian law, all electronics must be sold with a free, 2-year warranty and tech-support package, one year longer than Apple’s standard.

Late last year, Italy’s competition and marketing authority, the AMCG, fined Apple 900,000 euros ($1.13 million) for not informing their Italian customers of their right to a free, 2 year warranty and rights to free technical assistance. Apple appealed the fine in January, 400,000 Euros worth for not offering a free, two-year warranty and 500,000 Euros worth for continuing to sell their own AppleCare. This appeal was denied in May, and Apple is now being told to shell out the big bucks.

Should Apple refuse to pay up, AMCG is threatening to shutter every Apple Store in Italy for 30 days if they don’t comply with the nation’s laws.

According to the BBC, the AMCG has called Apple’s tactics to continue offering their own breed of extended protection “aggressive,” saying it is an “unfair practice” which will force customers to pay for service which they are entitled to at no charge.

Though Apple has made attempts to inform customers about their rights to a 2 year warranty and tech support, the AMCG isn’t appeased. Furthermore, AppleCare offers different protection than what is freely available to Italian citizens. For example, under Italian law, Apple has to replace a product straight away if it’s found to be defective as soon as the product leaves the box. AppleCare, on the other hand, only replaces a product once it’s been used and found to have a defect.

In order to prevent a 30-day loss of sales in Italy, Apple must respond within 30 days and begin to take even larger strides to let their customers know about their 2-year rights. If the AMCG does close every Italian Apple store for 30 days, they could also add an additional 300,000 Euro fine to Apple’s tab.

Apple has issued a statement about this matter, saying: “We’ve appealed the recent decision of the court as it was, in our view, based upon an incorrect interpretation of the law. We’ve introduced a number of measures to address the [Italian authorities'] concerns and we disagree with their latest complaint.”

Apple has recently wrapped up a row with the Australian government about their marketing of the 4G iPad. Their latest tablet device isn’t compatible with Australia’s only 4G network, Telestra. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) took Apple to court over the matter. In the end, Apple had to pay a $2.26 million fine to the commission, as well as pay their legal fees.

Source: redOrbit (Italy Wants To Shut Down Apple Stores For 30 days - Technology News - redOrbit)

Kinda panicking there, aren't you, power posting as you are. It's amazing how much like Butterfly you are. In fact, the similarities in nearly all aspects of your personalities are uncanny.

^ Yes I thought you'd try and change the subject again. Feeble effort.

Sure, Buttercuda.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And they got an injunction banning the Nexus. Are they still selling those in the US?

They sure do - it's the brand new one they announced. You're thinking mistakenly of the Nexus One, which has long been out of circulation and not made by Samsung.

Discover Nexus Devices

Nice try to spin it, though, but as usual, you're wrong.

Galaxy Nexus pulled from Google Play Store [U] | Electronista

Galaxy Nexus pulled from Google Play Store [U]

Google has withdrawn the Samsung Galaxy Nexus from sale on the Google Play store as it moves to comply with US court orders banning it from sale. U.S. Judge Lucy Koh earlier rejected Samsung’s appeal against the injunction order, leading to the Galaxy Nexus being withdrawn from sale. Google currently has the device listed as ‘Coming Soon,’ with potential buyers offered the opportunity to sign up for notifications.

The Galaxy Nexus is perhaps the most prominent casualty in the legal war that has erupted between Apple and Samsung. Although the device was released last November as the flagship reference device for Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), it is slated to be the first smartphone to be upgraded to Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean). With the sales ban in place, the only device that will carry Jelly Bean for the time being be Google’s Asus-made Nexus 7 reference tablet.

Google and Samsung have scrambled to address the apparent IP infringement by hastily releasing putting together a revised build of the OS that includes a patch for the Apple ‘universal search’ patent. Whether it will be enough to satisfy the court and life the sales ban remains to be seen.

Google and Samsung are also expected to file for a re-evaluation of the Apple patent with the US Patent and Trademark Office. Although it is not know specifically what the company’s are expected to argue, it is typically the case that the two companies will be seeking to have Apple’s patent invalidated because of prior art, or other technology that may pre-date Apple’s initial patent filing.

The injunction against the Galaxy Nexus was issued ahead of Apple’s formal court case against Samsung for its alleged infringement of Apple’s IP in both software and hardware design.Judge Koh ruled that Apple has ‘articulated "articulated a plausible theory of irreparable harm" from "long-term loss of market share" and "losses of downstream sales." The case is scheduled to start this month.

Update: Google has updated its store to show that the Galaxy Nexus will return soon, but updated with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean). The company has not clarified whether its disappearance from the store has anything to do with the current injunction affecting the sale of the device in the US. Whether it believes that its updated software does not violate the offending patent on 'universal search' paving the way for its continued sale is also unclear at this time.

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

It's amazing how much like Butterfly you are. In fact, the similarities in nearly all aspects of your personalities are uncanny.

actually Quack Quack, he is more of a "religious" follower like you to be honest

his devotion to Samsung and Android has only you as a competitor

I just like to make fun of you two

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm surprised you don't admire it, it is pretty, and I thought Appletards like pretty things?

now that's quite nice, can it run Android ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So now Apple see all those sales going elsewhere

Elsewhere? Really? Where? Seeing as how they own 95% of the tablet market, I'd be curious how you spin that one.