Project Magenta - hackintosh for iOS on Android hardware

**harrybarracuda** · 11-06-2012, 03:41 PM

Don't sweat it Butters, I think we're the only cnuts that talk to him anyway.

**Butterfly** · 11-06-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Good bye, Butterfly.

flounce ?

**Cthulhu** · 13-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Hopefully, this project will gain some traction.

**harrybarracuda** · 13-06-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Hopefully, this project will gain some traction.

Can't really see anyone buying a perfectly acceptable Android device then fucking it up by putting that shit on it.

**Butterfly** · 13-06-2012, 05:04 PM

: yawn :

looking for another round to get owned Quack Quack,

tell us again about what you know of Android and Java

**Cthulhu** · 13-06-2012, 05:56 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_(software)

Dalvik is the process virtual machine (VM) in Google's Android operating system. It is the software that runs the apps on Android devices. Dalvik is thus an integral part of Android, which is typically used on mobile devices such as mobile phones and tablet computers. Programs are commonly written in Java and compiled to bytecode.

**Gerbil** · 13-06-2012, 06:24 PM

So this project is...

A) run android
B) put IOS on top of that.
C) add an android layer on top of that for android app compatibility
D) Run IOS apps or Android apps....

Sounds really stable, fast, intuitive, etc.

Typical nerd project. Just because something 'could be done' doesn't mean it makes any sense that it 'should be done'.

**Butterfly** · 13-06-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_(software)

Dalvik is the process virtual machine (VM) in Google's Android operating system. It is the software that runs the apps on Android devices. Dalvik is thus an integral part of Android, which is typically used on mobile devices such as mobile phones and tablet computers. Programs are commonly written in Java and compiled to bytecode.

hilarious, even quoting things you obviously don't understand

it's not a Java VM, it's a proprietary runtime, like MS has for C# and their development tools

Google used the Java syntax for programming (like MS could use C# or even VB) and then compiled into a proprietary model (ala Win)

fucking brilliant, and make tards like you go in round

**Cthulhu** · 13-06-2012, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Gerbil

So this project is...

A) run android
B) put IOS on top of that.
C) add an android layer on top of that for android app compatibility
D) Run IOS apps or Android apps....

Incorrect, on all counts. Read. The. Article.

**Gerbil** · 13-06-2012, 10:15 PM

^ No. Too much hard work. You explain it. I'm busy.

**harrybarracuda** · 13-06-2012, 10:48 PM

I think it's a great idea. People will buy an Android phone because they don't want pay rip off Apple prices; try and get this shit running on it; realise it's a pile of crap and go back to Android; realise Android is better.

And another convert from the gay shit!

Ching Ching!

**Cthulhu** · 14-06-2012, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Gerbil

^ No. Too much hard work. You explain it. I'm busy.

It replaces the Android operating system on the device. Lots of pitfalls because of all the hardware fragmentation, but a solid idea.

It's essentially what early Android it, by running on OOB Windows Mobile 6 devices, by reflashing the firmware, basically replacing a crappy OS with something more usable - and more importantly to manufacturers, free.

**Cthulhu** · 14-06-2012, 01:26 AM

The big promise here is less the effort to place an iPhone look-alike there, but tat hopefully an underlying framework will be created that entirely new UIs can be grafted on.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2012, 03:03 AM

You already have that with Android devices. Cyanogenmod, MIUI to name but two.

Don't you know anything?

**Gerbil** · 14-06-2012, 03:18 AM

It's a nerdish fantasy load of bollocks.

End of story.

Next.

P.S. Fuck off Daffney.

**Butterfly** · 14-06-2012, 08:50 AM

what about that project to have Android run on the iPhone older and newer generation ? now that would be useful

Quack Quack, could you share any light on this ?

**Cthulhu** · 14-06-2012, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

what about that project to have Android run on the iPhone older and newer generation ? now that would be useful

Quack Quack, could you share any light on this ?

Old news.

Long since abandoned. 2 years old. No recent update, pretty much since 2 years ago, and it had Android running, rather badly, on the iPhone 3G.

April through May 2010:

How to Install Android on Your iPhone | PCWorld

Android Now Running On iPhone 3G | PCWorld

Last blog update - July 5, 2010

Linux on the iPhone

Like I said. Old news. Just like anything you come up.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2012, 11:36 AM

Yes because it's a stupid idea running a decent OS like Android on shit itard phones.

**Butterfly** · 14-06-2012, 11:52 AM

^ don't agree, if Android is that superior, backward compatibility should be a plus, not a liability like Apple like to say

**Butterfly** · 14-06-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Originally Posted by Butterfly

what about that project to have Android run on the iPhone older and newer generation ? now that would be useful

Quack Quack, could you share any light on this ?

Old news.

Long since abandoned. 2 years old. No recent update, pretty much since 2 years ago, and it had Android running, rather badly, on the iPhone 3G.

April through May 2010:

How to Install Android on Your iPhone | PCWorld

Android Now Running On iPhone 3G | PCWorld

Last blog update - July 5, 2010

Linux on the iPhone

Like I said. Old news. Just like anything you come up.

nice links

All you fandroids should go back to school. You're all stuck in 2007. Whether you like it or not iOS is far superior.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ don't agree, if Android is that superior, backward compatibility should be a plus, not a liability like Apple like to say

I've already played around on the SII installing versions from 2.x to 4.x, before settling on a nice custom build of ICS.

I'm going to try 2.3.7 on the Novo next, to see how fast it flies.

Why the fuck would I want to piss around on that dull little brick of an iphone?

The SII pisses all over it.

I finally got my hands on an SIII yesterday, wow what a beauty and so fast. Not going to buy one yet, but will be interesting to see how quickly that gets jazzed up by developers.

Something you don't get on the tard phone. You buy it, you're stuck with it until Apple decide if they want to do you any favours (not that they do, playing catch with Android all the time).

Can't wait for Google I/O, to see what Android are going to do to rub Apple's noses in it.

**Butterfly** · 14-06-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why the fuck would I want to piss around on that dull little brick of an iphone?

technical challenge ? where is the fun in installing new versions on new devices ? anybody can do that, the real challenge is legacy devices with new OS

how about installing DOS on an iPhone

**Cthulhu** · 14-06-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

All you fandroids should go back to school. You're all stuck in 2007. Whether you like it or not iOS is far superior.

He's got a point.

What I find interesting, though, let's take a look at some of those imaginary numbers fandroids are tossing around:

900,000 daily activations : Like many of the numbers tossed around by Andy Rubin (and mindlessly repeated by the Andy faithful), this number quietly downplays the fact that most Android devices are being 'pre-activated' at the factory, upon installation of the Android device. So, the number more accurately reflects 900,000 Android devices manufactured every day, combined with however many that are bought and being activated.

So, at best, it's a deliberately misleading number.

That said, we don't know how many iOS activations there are every day -- but we do know another number.

Google has revealed that 75% of their mobile revenue comes from iOS - that's a seriously large number. If Android were as overwhelmingly "winning" as the mindless drones bleat about, then why is the majority of Google's mobile revenue not coming from Android? or at least 50%?

It's not - instead, a significant majority of Google's mobile search revenue originates from the iOS platform. Allegedly the platform that has inferior deploy numbers.

How is Android "winning" here?

Mind you, actual mobile search results implies "actual warm blooded consumers who bought the device and are using it" - it doesn't mean "devices we shipped to Best Buy and Tesco Lotus and that are sitting on the shelves".

Combine that with another known number - in the USA, every single mobile carrier is dominated by iPhone *sales*. In fact, each carrier sells more iPhones, than all the other smartPhone brands *combined*. Thus, while a given carrier might just have 300 iPhones in stock, and 3,000 combined Android models in stock - the 300 iPhones actually walk out the door. The Android devices don't. These are confirmed numbers from the 4 US carriers.

Thailand's TRUE sells out of their allocated stock of iPhones in half the time they allocated for sales, and are constantly having to re-order. They keep 1/4 that many Android models in stock (again, combined all other manufacturers), and usually have to return 90% of that stock after their 90 days window. This was confirmed by the Deputy Director of TRUEmove, product management, in a recent meeting.

How is Android "winning" here?

Actual usage numbers - either of mobile websites, public wifi hotspots, in-flight broadband, Flikr most popular cameras, etc, or any other metrics that measure actual usage, generally show iPhones and iOS devices with usually 75% or more usage share. Why is that?

How is Android "winning" here?

So, just like all of Andy Rubin's other claims, his 900,000 activations don't mean diddly in the grand scheme of things, if Google can't even manage to extract revenue numbers from Android.(*)

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2012, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why the fuck would I want to piss around on that dull little brick of an iphone?

technical challenge ? where is the fun in installing new versions on new devices ? anybody can do that, the real challenge is legacy devices with new OS

how about installing DOS on an iPhone

Probably run better.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-06-2012, 04:16 PM

Combine that with another known number - in the USA, every single mobile carrier is dominated by iPhone *sales*.

Oh dear, look, more DaffyDuck bollocks.

He probably is only looking at individual phone models.

But more to the point, he's wrong.

Verizon's #1 selling phone is the Razr Maxx - because it offers LTE and the iPhone doesn't.

Other than being misleading and factually incorrect, he's absolutely right of course.

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