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    The BOT is not supporting the Baht and the foreign reserves are not tax payers money.
    Above is what you did say my friend and I am sure the BoT is supporting the baht although you may be right that the foreign reserves are not tax payers money.
    We will see if this slide continues or its a false dawn either way the value of our currencies in Thailand Euro,Dollar and Pound is at an exaggerated rate in favour of the baht.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    This is what I noticed over the last 2 months or so.
    Day 1 £=47
    Day 2 £=48
    Day 3 £=48.5
    Day 4 £=47.5
    Day 5 £=47,48,49,50 take your pick

    those are bad rates, are you using some tourist exchange booth?

    I have been getting over 51 for some time
    They are examples of the daily rates from the BKK bank site over the past month or 2. Through my bank I usually get the selling rates so they are a couple of baht higher than the buying rates. The were just meant to be an example of how it was see sawing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I hope so mate and for the sake of the Thai exporters.

    Yesterday rate of 36.5 too the greenback means that it has depreciated by about 1.5 baht and over the last wekk which is significant.
    you already said 36.5 mate. pom is winding you up!

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    Feb.23 (Bloomberg) - Thailand's baht advanced, snapping a four-day decline, on speculation exporters were converting foreign exchange as the dollar declined on speculation the US government may increase its stake in Citigroup Inc.

    The baht gained the most in more than six weeks after a Wall Street Journal reported Citigroup Inc. is in talks with US officials to raise the government's ownership, citing unidentified people familiar with the situation. Thailand's economy contracted 4.3 percent in the fourth quarter from a year earlier, the government reported today, more than the 2.8 percent drop forecast by economists in a Bloomberg News survey.

    The baht rose 0.3 percent to 35.61 per dollar as of 5:20 pm in Bangkok, according to data compiled by Bloomberg,. The currency fell to 35.78 of Feb. 20, the lowest since Dec. 4.

    The dollar fell against the euro as risk aversion eased and investors sold safe-haven assets including Treasuries on speculation the U.S. raising its stake in Citigroup may avert more bank failures.

    The government's benchmark 10-year bond dropped. The yield on the 5.625 percent note due January 2019 rose 2.9 basis points to 3.651 percent, according to the Thai Bond Market Association.

    Thai government bonds dropped 3.5 percent this year, the third worst performer after Indonesia and India, indexes compiled by HSBC Holdings Plc. show.

    Bank of Thailand Governor Tarisa Watanagase last week said the central bank "will curb" volatility in the baht. The bank wants the currency to move "in line" with the region, she said. Thailand's economy last shrank in the first three months of 1999.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
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    What would happen to Tarisa (BOT governor) if she suddenly stopped using taxpayer money (the Thai reserves) to support the Bath ? If the Bath was floated and went down 20% all the Thai billionaire thugs would suddenly loose millions, how many days you think she would survive that ? I honestly don't think she has much of a choice but keep supporting the Bath untill the coffers run dry, wether it is good for the Country as a whole or not.
    The BOT is not supporting the Baht and the foreign reserves are not tax payers money.
    I saw with my own eyes Tarisa clearly stating at a meeting in the Foreign Correspondents Club that the BOT was supporting the Bath attempting to control the speed with which the Bath moved.

    The reserves is the property of the people of Thailand, how can you not understand that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    The BOT is not supporting the Baht
    Like I said elsewhere, 80% of Thai exports are paid for in dollars and at one point it was a BOT rule that those dollars HAD to be onverted to Baht. This practice and the use of THailands huge foreign reserves has been used to manipulate the baht for a long time. That is a fact and leads nicely to.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    the weaking of the THB is mostly because of slower export, conversion to THB is not as strong as before
    Exactly, if you dont have as many dollars arriving to convert to baht then the baht falls a little. This is the effect we are seeing now.
    As for the pound, that has risen of its own accord, aided and abbetted by the fact the Euro looks like it could collapse along with those flaky economies in Eastern Europe. The BOT are not in the slightest bit interested in the pound and Euro though, its all about U$D for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    it went up already from an average of 18 THB for 91 to 22 now
    I think this is mostly due to the scrapping of Samaks "2 baht subsidy" that was introduced last year during the oil bubble, Thailand was slow to scrap this subsidy but finally did so on Feb 1st 2009 when the price of oil had already fallen way below the point where the subsidy was worth having. (This delay cost Thailand billions of baht by the way- a real fuck up)

    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    The BOT is not supporting the Baht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva
    Bank of Thailand Governor Tarisa Watanagase last week said the central bank "will curb" volatility in the baht.
    Thats an admission of "supporting the baht" right from the horses mouth, no offence to any horses who may be reading, as Tarisa will never be as smart as you
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    Yes, they manipulate the baht to avoid sudden shocks etc.. It is called a managed float exchange rate system, perfectly normal and practiced by many countries.

    They do NOT maintain the baht at 20% above it's real rate for any length of time (as claimed by larvidchr) . To do that would take massive amounts of dollars, and from the foreign reserve stats, that is clearly not the case as they have remained fairly stable, only increasing slightly, which is as to be expected with a BOP surplus.

    This is yet another case of people repeating something enough to make it become true.

    larvidchr, you claimed the foreign reserves are tax payers money, this implies that the money in the foreign reserves came from peoples taxes. You must understand that this is completely wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
    Yes, they manipulate the baht to avoid sudden shocks etc.. It is called a managed float exchange rate system, perfectly normal and practiced by many countries.

    They do NOT maintain the baht at 20% above it's real rate for any length of time (as claimed by larvidchr) . To do that would take massive amounts of dollars, and from the foreign reserve stats, that is clearly not the case as they have remained fairly stable, only increasing slightly, which is as to be expected with a BOP surplus.

    This is yet another case of people repeating something enough to make it become true.

    larvidchr, you claimed the foreign reserves are tax payers money, this implies that the money in the foreign reserves came from peoples taxes. You must understand that this is completely wrong?
    First the 20 % was just guesswork of how much the Bath might eventually fall if it was allowed to float, it was more the the fact that they do not allow it to float which in the end might be best for the Country.

    Well I meant the Thai People/ Taxpayers and in the end the foreign reserves all comes from their toils and is their property you are nitpicking when you very well know that the word Taxpayers just is an analogy for the working people. But okay I should have made both points more exact,

    And finally you and I have no real way of knowing how much the bath would fall if it was floated and not kept stable by the BOT. At the meeting in the Foreign correspondents club it was implied that they had used millions of Dollars propping up the Bath and Tarisa did not deny it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    you are nitpicking when you very well know that the word Taxpayers just is an analogy for the working people.
    No I am not nitpicking, when you say "taxpayers money" it generally means tax money collected by the government. So you were wrong.

    English is obviously not your first language, so I don't blame you for implying the wrong thing, but, don't turn it around and try and blame me instead.

    If I was nitpicking I would tell you that the foreign reserves belong to the central bank which in turn belongs to ALL Thai citizens. Nothing to do with tax payers at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    you are nitpicking when you very well know that the word Taxpayers just is an analogy for the working people.
    No I am not nitpicking, when you say "taxpayers money" it generally means tax money collected by the government. So you were wrong.

    English is obviously not your first language, so I don't blame you for implying the wrong thing, but, don't turn it around and try and blame me instead.

    If I was nitpicking I would tell you that the foreign reserves belong to the central bank which in turn belongs to ALL Thai citizens. Nothing to do with tax payers at all.
    That is what I meant so OK then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake7
    Did it ever occur to you that it might actually be the sterling which is strengthening rather than the baht weakening

    Strange but Rothscilds Bank is buying heavily into STERLING, this Jewish run bank has been very successful for the last 200 years as to where to put your money safely

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    Thailand's economy contracted at a record pace of 6.1% in the fourth quarter, compared to the previous quarter. On an annual basis, the economy shrunk 4.3%.

    Today, the Thai baht slumped to its lowest level in almost 2-years against the dollar. The Thailand currency fell to 36.0850 per dollar and this may be compared to yesterday's close of 35.7850. On the downside, 36.5 is seen as the next target level for the Thailand currency.
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    Feb.26 (Bloomberg) - Thailand's baht slid to its lowest level in more than two years on speculation the central bank will allow further weakness to help exporters and avert a possible recession this year. Bonds declined.

    The currency fell 0.7 percent this week, the second-worst performance among Asia's 10 most-active currencies, after Duangmanee Vongpradhip, assistant governor of monetary policy at the Bank of Thailand, said there is "higher risk" the economy will contract in 2009. The bank yesterday cut its benchmark.

    The baht fell o.5 percent to 35.96 to the dollar as of 5:20 PM in Bangkok, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, after touching 36.01 earlier, the weakest since Jan.23, 2007. The currency may fall to 37 by the end of June, Kowalczyk said.

    The central bank yesterday said the drop in global demand has "adversely affected regional countries including Thailand through a market contraction in exports".

    Thailand's overseas sales, which account for 70 percent of gross domestic product, last month plunged 26.5 percent from a year earlier, according to the commerce ministry. Reduced shipments curbs exporters' demand for baht.

    The yield on the benchmark 5.625 percent bond maturing in January 2019 climbed 8 basis points to 3.697 percent, according to the reference yield from the Thai Bond Market Association.

    The Bank of Thailand may cut its interest rate less that the previous three times, as the global recession may blunt the effectiveness of monetary policy, deputy Governor Bandit Nijathaworn said today.

    "The rate fell quite fast in the past three meetings," he said. "It won't be as much going forward, as monetary policy has its own limitations in supporting growth".

    The baht lost 3.5 percent versus the dollar this year, a less marked decline than the South Korean won's 17.1 percent drop and the Indonesian rupiah's 9 percent slide, Bloomberg data show. The Malaysian ringgit declined 5.9 percent.

    "The baht should be considered to be overvalued on a relative basis versus its regional peers," Kowalczyk said. "It seems we should brace for a faster decline in the value of the currency."

    Thailand's economy shrank 4.3 percent in the forth quarter from a year earlier, its first contraction in a decade, the government reported this week.
    Food for thought..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    It should be over 40 to the $ if the true value of the Baht is recognised

    as for any other currencies, they are all at differing exchange rates to the $ on different days, so will show some differences

    so if the rate goes up against the pound, that prob means the pound has got stronger against the dollar. The baht tends to be tied to the US$ but they are letting it gradually slip
    Certainly throughout the last year, most strong currencies have have gained against the US dollar. Expect the dollar to weaken amongst most exchanges - the jig is up when observing the strength and influence of the US. Another decade {even less}, the world will be looking for another standard.

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    $ is king, and most likely see 40-45 on the next 3-6mo. Most currencies have dropped against the $ and most likely will continue - see yank $ as the standard for decades to come.

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    "The baht should be considered to be overvalued on a relative basis versus its regional peers," Kowalczyk said. "It seems we should brace for a faster decline in the value of the currency."

    I would find that most bracing indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric View Post
    $ is king, and most likely see 40-45 on the next 3-6mo. Most currencies have dropped against the $ and most likely will continue - see yank $ as the standard for decades to come.
    Personally, I'd like to see the dollar rise to B40-B45, as you've spectulated towards. Positive thinking Brit!

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    RS , the euro was last year 40bt to the euro but we had 67/69 to the pound so the euro has not been affected much .

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    ^ I dont know where you got that info on the Euro from it was never as low as 40 Baht. Average for the year 2008- 48,3 Baht to 1 Euro

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    $ is king, and most likely see 40-45 on the next 3-6mo.
    I think you have been saying this for the last 2 or 3 years

    we will be lucky if it hits 38 in the next 3 months,

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    OK all you financial god wannabe's why is the pound creeping back up? Its at 54.5+ now.

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    ^ Gordon Brown sucking cocks and about to leave office, that's good news for the UK

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    Come on bhat keep going up .

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