Thread: Foreign tourists have declined by 50 per cent in 2008

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Righto, so make some suggestions in order that they can be compared with similar class venues in the UK.

The one right across the street from me.

Seriously Andrew, you need to get out more if you're having trouble finding cheap places to eat western food. Or perhaps away from Sukhumvit.

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Righto, so make some suggestions in order that they can be compared with similar class venues in the UK.

The one right across the street from me.

So name it and some example prices. Also what type of place it is and how likely it would be found by tourists. It isn't that hard unless you are being deliberately difficult to pin down.

Originally Posted by pickel

Seriously Andrew, you need to get out more if you're having trouble finding cheap places to eat western food. Or perhaps away from Sukhumvit.

Seriously Pickel, I do not. I eat out every day here, specifically at places that are out of the way, but that's it - they are out of the way from tourists, who would be unlikely to encounter them.

Also, as I lived away from the Sukhumvit area for 8-years and rarely eat there by choice, I don't need any tips on the matter from you.

No - I am asking you to give an example in order to prove your case, as I belivee you are making things up as you go along.

I see why you are good friends with Tud, you're both stubborn and like to argue about petty things. I will not give the location of this particular restaurant as it gives my exact location on an "anonymous" message board. I can tell you that it's customers are 99% farang. Today I had a homemade bacon cheeseburger and french fries for 130 baht. That same meal in my country would be 250 baht baht at the cheapest and would average about 350-400 baht. Last night I had a big portion of tasty spaghetti carbonara and garlic toast for 150 baht. That meal would be at least 350 baht and around 500 baht in my country.

Khao Sahn road is about as touristy as it gets, I've had western food there for cheap. I've even had western food for cheap on Sukhumvit, but I stay out of the theme pubs.

So, you think I'm making things up? Nothing I can do about that except think you're an idiot. End of discussion on my part, have a good day and enjoy your overpriced theme pub.

Originally Posted by pickel

I see why you are good friends with Tud, you're both stubborn and like to argue about petty things

drinking buddies actually, speak volume about who they are

Originally Posted by pickel

Today I had a homemade bacon cheeseburger and french fries for 130 baht. That same meal in my country would be 250 baht baht at the cheapest and would average about 350-400 baht. Last night I had a big portion of tasty spaghetti carbonara and garlic toast for 150 baht. That meal would be at least 350 baht and around 500 baht in my country.

sounds like a good deal actually, always interested about new place. Send me the address by PM if you will

Originally Posted by pickel

I see why you are good friends with Tud, you're both stubborn and like to argue about petty things.

As I merely asked you to back up your (false) assertion with an example, I guess you have said that because you are embarrassed and getting touchy.

Originally Posted by pickel

I will not give the location of this particular restaurant as it gives my exact location on an "anonymous" message board.

Of course you won't, because that way we have no idea if it is a tourist-frequented area or not (which was the matter at hand). Also, it could be a dingy shack on the Khao San Road, which would be comparable with a greasy spoon diner in the UK.

Originally Posted by pickel

I can tell you that it's customers are 99% farang.

So are most gaffs on the KSR...

Originally Posted by pickel

Today I had a homemade bacon cheeseburger and french fries for 130 baht. That same meal in my country would be 250 baht baht at the cheapest and would average about 350-400 baht.

Wrong again - do try and keep up - my local country pub in UK does exactly the same for Sterling equivelent of B135 (at tourist exchange rates). That type of deal is common in post credit-crunch UK.

Originally Posted by pickel

Khao Sahn road is about as touristy as it gets, I've had western food there for cheap.

Ah - so you are on the KSR

Originally Posted by pickel

I've even had western food for cheap on Sukhumvit

As I have asked before - where?

Originally Posted by pickel

I stay out of the theme pubs.

So do I.

Originally Posted by pickel

So, you think I'm making things up?

Yes - apart from the KSR part.

Originally Posted by pickel

Nothing I can do about that except think you're an idiot.

An idiot thinks I am an idiot. Excellent.

Originally Posted by pickel

End of discussion on my part

Because you have no facts to back up your opinion with.

Originally Posted by pickel

have a good day and enjoy your overpriced theme pub.

I will actually, as it is the g/f's birthday and we are going to our favourite Thai restaurant between Rama 9 and Phetburi. No idea why you think it is 'themed', apart from the 'theme' being Thai...

Originally Posted by Butterfly

sounds like a good deal actually, always interested about new place. Send me the address by PM if you will

Tired of ladyboy rejection, Butterfly now aims to chat up Western blokes. Hey ho - enjoy guys!

^ they might be cheaper!

^Even when converting back to Sterling!

^Agree on all points, apart from cuisine. Maybe you haven't lived in other parts of the world, but I would consider that Carribean, Mexican, Italian and French food ahead of Thai, but I guess that's just down to taste...

NB - I notice Pickle retired early on his Koh San Road 'retreat'!

Pickel is on Soi Rambutri.

We are having him watched.

Pickel gave me the name of this tourist place, and I happen to know this to be true, so unlike Bkka and friends, he is not talking out of his ass

stick to the food at the OnNut beer garden, guys

If a Bangkok resident can't find decent western food at a decent price, I have only two suggestions-

1:- cast your net wider, or
2:- stick to Asian food.

If neither satisfies, swampybum is open again.

Pattaya has also a nice choice of cheap western food, and Manhattan is one of the best value I have seen there, if you don't mind spending about 2,000 THB per person for a complete meal in a nice NY steakhouse

Originally Posted by sabang

If a Bangkok resident can't find decent western food at a decent price, I have only two suggestions-

1:- cast your net wider, or
2:- stick to Asian food.

If neither satisfies, swampybum is open again.

FFS Sabang, I never normally bark at you, but read the foking thread title - This is about tourists, not expats...

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Pattaya has also a nice choice of cheap western food, and Manhattan is one of the best value I have seen there, if you don't mind spending about 2,000 THB per person for a complete meal in a nice NY steakhouse

There you go. This is roughly 50% more expensive than a comparable meal in the UK right now. So your 'best value' is 50% more expensive than similar in the UK.

Now will you get it?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Pickel gave me the name of this tourist place, and I happen to know this to be true, so unlike Bkka and friends, he is not talking out of his ass

What to be true - the fact that a burger and fries is the same price as the UK? Right, so then, what sort of place is it, typical Thai dirt shack that would be shut down in 5-minutes flat if operating in the UK, or an establishment that would rival a well-healed country pub in the UK?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Pattaya has also a nice choice of cheap western food, and Manhattan is one of the best value I have seen there, if you don't mind spending about 2,000 THB per person for a complete meal in a nice NY steakhouse

Thats well posh mate! They do some specials now too, which helps. I'll go and spend that sort of money at the likes of Manie's, Matahari or Mantra maybe thrice a year. Wife has to drive me back home.

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

I never normally bark at you

Woof!

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

This is about tourists, not expats...

They should read this forum then. Some tourists do not give a **** what they spend. Up to them.

I expect to be in Bkk if not Cambodia soon into the new year. Any non-cryptic recs for a good roast lamb and trimmings, or Indian?

Anyone into islamic food and esp a real delish home made skhooch (? difficult to spell the guttural), try the one on the corner by the first alley in soi 3 coming from Nana, but not advised to more than browse their Indian menu.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Pickel gave me the name of this tourist place, and I happen to know this to be true

Not 'Oh My Cod' was it?

Mediocre.

Originally Posted by sabang

If a Bangkok resident can't find decent western food at a decent price

Most places are forgettable and over-priced in Bangkok.

Originally Posted by keda

I expect to be in Bkk if not Cambodia soon into the new year. Any non-cryptic recs for a good roast lamb and trimmings, or Indian?

The Londoner's Sunday roast buffet includes lamb, which is excellent. B550 IIRC all-in (5-courses). If you get there between 6 and 7 drinks are 2 for one.....

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Not 'Oh My Cod' was it?

One of the worst meals I've ever had was there, and is more the reason I hate "theme" restaurants.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Pickel is on Soi Rambutri. We are having him watched.

Must be one hell of a zoom on that camera.

so with the exchange rate are we gonna see hordes of rich thais on package tours to merry old england for a cheap roast dinner?

no i dont think so either