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    I've done my due diligence on Mosiac, I'm comfortable enough to place those trades (for fun) and also in the real world if I get stopped out over the next few days it wont matter too much.
    Dont forget that this thread is for fun and I'm certainly not offering advice here, nor is anyone asking for it either.
    Now as this thread is about having fun and making some imaginary money if possible, do you have any suggestions that we might add to our imaginary portfolio?

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    ^Its getting too late to short BB:IX, as it closed down 16% to 42p today. The Govt. bailout price will be between that and 20p IMO.

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    Sorry, I coudnt find any website that portfolio tracker that could display short "trades". Good call though.

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    ^Oh well, you know, I am not bullish on anything right now, so no recommendations from me...

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    Pretty bad day for the wider market today, financials reached new lows and dragged the market with them.
    Grain prices plummeted and oil fell too, both are bad news for the Ag sector combined with the drop in the Dow means that POT, MOS, and MON gave up some of Thursdays gains.
    Best place to be today was SKF financials ultrashort.

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    should invest in "Cattle & Sheep" that what the Aussie prick said on the telly this morning.Gloating that Oz is desease free. and should make a killing selling beef to Taiwan.

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    Dump the Mosanto stock - "evil company" !



    Monsanto is a Biotechnology Multinational run by Chief executive Robert Shapiro. They spread everywhere they are tolerated in the world seeking to patent everything you eat. They own 90% of all GMO (genetically modified organism) crops in the world, 70% of these being Round Up resistant. The
    rest creates an insecticide called BT. They bought 50 major seeds companies (tomato, potato, corn, soy , cotton…) from 1995 to 2005. This post might somehow be long, but you absolutely need to know about this corrupt company and the people behind all this. Everyone on the planet is concerned. Monsanto has been selling PCB’s and claiming their benefits for the environment knowing it was completely false. PCB have been banned in the beginning of the 90’s. PCB’s are present in the air, ground and water. They are for a big part in the well known disease: cancer.
    Let’s start by analyzing their best product on the market.
    Round Up Ready (RUR); this herbicide has been the number one seller for the past thirty years. (marketed in 74) It will kill every living plant but the Monsanto’s genetically modified. A very good example is their RUR Soy plant. Monsanto’s scientist identified a gene resistant to Round Up. Fixed on microscopic gold particles, these genes are bombarded with a canon gene into the soy cell. Combined with the RNA, it triggers the make of a protein that will create a Round Up resistant Soy plant. You can read an article from Dr Robert Belle on the Round Up technology. He explains their technology affects a key mechanism that controls cell division making them more keen to instability. A cell is not cancerous in the beginning, the principal modification toward cancer is when a cell becomes genetically unstable, this is exactly what Round Up does. In an experiment, Elena Alvarez Buylla demonstrates that flowers have a completely different phenotypes (expression of a gene) depending on the localization of the trans gene. Some specimen look like normal flowers, others present monstrous looks. Once a trans gene is released, with the wind carrying the pollen around, it can go infect any natural crop integrating those new modified genes into the environment.
    The FDA ( Food and Drug administration) is in charge of the health regulations in the USA. In 1979, they accepted a law classifying GMO food and natural food in the same category. James Maryanski (1985-2006) the Biotechnology responsible of the FDA at the time admits in a video that the White House made some etc

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    ^ I'm aware of all that and and a whole lot more! I agree that this company have some pretty nefarious operational tactics going on in the background. I dont trade this company in real life for those reasons. For this thread I took some because i can see a good chance of profit for that trade
    POT is another company that have similar themes that play on the conscience, however they are not as bad as MON and I do hold a long position in that company in real life.
    Do you have any "clean" picks that you would like me to add to the portfolio?

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    Well it was a wild ride for the Teakdoor portfolio today, at one point we were totally skint and about 4000$ under! This was due to the Ag stocks POT, MOS and MON finding new lows in their correction. Those stocks should now trade sideways for a few days before they move on up and find new highs.
    Late in the day a huge rally in the financial sector triggered by comments from Morgan Stanleys Jamie Dimon at the FTIC mortgage conference sent the indexes back into positive territory.
    Commodities took another spanking today with copper off 3.8% which means our FCX position lost us about a 900$ today
    Oil dropped over 5$ to close at 135.95, that cost us a big chunk of profit in the Ag stocks because they move in sympathy of oil.
    Heres the numbers, not a bad day in the end, now we're up 5248$


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    After a promising start it turned into another ugly day on Wall St, financials companies plunge and drag the whole caboodle with them.
    Dow down 233 points/2%. S&P 500 down 30 points/2.3%. Nasdaq down 60 points/ 2.6%

    Never mind, we still made money......

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    try to look at aker drilling u can google them and look at ther weeb site

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    ^ Interesting company but theyre listed on the Oslo stock exchange and wont show up in the portfolio manager I'm using

    I just sold the First Solar shares, it has a great couple of days and earned us 4100$ worth of beef sandwiches for DD
    Will look to see what it does tomorrow before I place the next trade, might be best to short it as theres plenty of bad news around to drive that stock back down to the 245 area.
    First Solar(fslr) is a daytraders dream, it has massive intraday moves and its like printing money if you're in the right place at the right time. it can burn you badly as well as i have found out many times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    ^ Interesting company but theyre listed on the Oslo stock exchange and wont show up in the portfolio manager I'm using
    they are building 2 new rigs the first is near ready for sea trials they drill wells at double speed as they have dobbel ramrig when the first reports come in thhe stocks will go up

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    ^ Cool, do you work for them? Can you get me a job?

    So at the end of the day we have 4100$ realised profits and 6086$ unrealised profit sitting in the remainder of the portfolio.

    Total profit so far in 5 trading days is over 10,186$ or 342,000 baht.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    ^ Cool, do you work for them? Can you get me a job?
    sorry i am just a hired pipefitter working on building the rigs

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    So that rounds out our first week of trading, 720$ profit today taking total gains to just shy of 11,000$ for the week.

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    Don't suppose you could send me a couple of grand?

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    ^Sorry, I'm running the middle office. It has come come through my account first...

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    I have to admit, that I love this thread. Often I think of myself as this Wall Street tycoon making money hand over fist.

    *rubbing hands together*

    How much money are we going to make next week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Don't suppose you could send me a couple of grand?
    Yeah sure, I'll donate 2000 baht, thats a couple of grand right?

    Problem is i want someone else to donate also, lets say 20$, if someone agrees to donate 20$ I will donate 40$ from the proceeds of the live trades that exist behind these play teakdoor trades.
    Whose up for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    So that rounds out our first week of trading, 720$ profit today taking total gains to just shy of 11,000$ for the week.
    I am confused Spin, how do you get 11,000 ? I see that the portfolio is up only by 6,000 since the beginning, hardly changed since the first few days actually

    let's see what kind of bias you are using to measure your portfolio

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    How much money are we going to make next week?
    Not much, the three agriculture compaines, MON,MOS, and POT have just finished whats technically known as a "correction" this is a perfectly healthy pull back in pricing to a lower level where they consolidate for a couple of weeks and then begin climbing again. That means that a trading range is entered where the price levels fluctuate a little each day but nothing really exciting happens.
    Technical analysis leads me to believe that POT will rise to 260$ per share, MOS could go to 180 and MON could see 150.
    FCX, freeport McMoran (copper and gold mining) should hit 125 in the next couple of weeks as soon as the market realises that commodoties priced in dollars dont get cheaper in an economic slowdown because its the value of the dollar that drives the prices, of copper and gold in this instance.
    If that comes true we could see profits in the region of 28,000$, none of which is real unfortunatley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    I am confused Spin, how do you get 11,000
    Pay attention! I sold the first Solar shares in post 37 for 4100$ profit as it had a great run up so I took the money and ran!

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    ^He's not too good with numbers Spin. He's awfully confused on the oil thread too...

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    ^ Butts knows his shit and i reckon he does better than ok. Oil is a confusing one for sure. For instance can you tell me why Exxon stock is only 10 dollars or so more than it was a year ago even though the price of their main product has doubled?

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