Thread: Among the 15 best guitar players in the world.

Originally Posted by Bung

Jesus! 4 pages in and no mention of Jimi Hendrix??!!

He has been mentioned. Pete Townsend hasn't

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

In fact I could go to 10 bars in Pattaya tonight and hear Thai's do a better job with this song.

Now I know why you live there

Mate he introduced the WHOLE new scene and when he went to England those such as Townsend, Clapton etc etc had been doing the same thing but not at the same distorted level.

You know I appreciate Hendrix, including everyone who played with him including Mitchell, Redding, Cox and Miles to name a few but at the end of the day he could not have held a candle (regarding guitar playing expertise) to Steve Ray or Robin Trower or Stevie Vai.

Seems like there are plenty of good guitarists out there:

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

In fact I could go to 10 bars in Pattaya tonight and hear Thai's do a better job with this song.

Here's one of them doing a Beatles rendition.

So you did listen to the mess he made of All along the watchtower then mate?

I post this again as I reckon this asian chick is hot.



She even uses Hendrix's trick of playing across the frets with her thumb. Cooolllll.

Anyone mentioned Nils Lofgren? You don't get many guys doing a somersault while playing a guitar solo.

Probably the most underrated guitarist of all time.

I've always liked this guy

Jimmy page, Duane Allman, B.B. King, Chuck Berry and Keith Richards? Have these guys been mentioned?

with Robben Ford

^^ I mentioned Jimmy Page but you could go on and on about the great players in history.

I prefer Funk or Blues rather then heavy metal or straight up R & R and of course taste in music will influence everyone's decision about who they like.

I was not a fan of 1950's 4 / 4 rock and roll so was not so interested in listening to the players around that time.

You could nominate George Benson amongst many other great black guitarists but it all comes down to what you like to listen too.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I prefer Funk or Blues rather then heavy metal or straight up R & R and of course taste in music will influence everyone's decision about who they like. I was not a fan of 1950's 4 / 4 rock and roll so was not so interested in listening to the players around that time. You could nominate George Benson amongst many other great black guitarists but it all comes down to what you like to listen too.

I agree, it would be far better to divide the guitarists by music genre and then rate them.

Some jazz.......................

I've always been a Chick Corea fan this is his Elektric band with the great Frank Gambale on guitar.

Originally Posted by taxexile

go listen to eric clapton and steve winwood playing "voodoo chile" its in 3 sections all over u-tube, and see if that doesnt change your mind about inspired blues riffing.

I like Clapton's playing, but he's a complete racist twat.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I like Clapton's playing, but he's a complete racist twat.

Is he?

How's that then? As in why'd you say that?

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Is he? How's that then? As in why'd you say that?

The following little outburst of his at a concert in the UK kind of gave it away.

"I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking (indecipherable) don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!"

^ OK so that was how many years ago?

And I have to ask, where and when did Eric Clapton say this?

It's ok, I found it.

• Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands. Wogs I mean, I'm looking at you. Where are you? I'm sorry but some fucking wog...Arab grabbed my wife's bum, you know? Surely got to be said, yeah this is what all the fucking foreigners and wogs over here are like, just disgusting, that's just the truth, yeah. So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country. You fucking (indecipherable). I don't want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch's our man. I think Enoch's right, I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I'm into racism. It's much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking (indecipherable) don't belong here, we don't want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don't want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don't want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he's a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he's our man, he's on our side, he'll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he's on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!
  • Quoted in Rebel Rock by J. Street. First Edition (1986). Oxford: Basil Blackwell. pp. 74-75. Street's sources are editions of the New Musical Express, Melody Maker and the Guardian and Times newspapers from the time.

Other Sources: Virgin Media: Clapton's Shocking Rant Guardian Unlimited: The Ten Right-Wing Rockers.
(These statements were allegedly made on stage by a heavily drunk Clapton during a concert in Birmingham, UK, in 1976. Clapton is referring to British anti-immigration Conservative MP Enoch Powell. Clapton later made similar further comments to the audience later in the evening. Clapton has never denied making these statements and has refused to apologise for his remarks or distance himself from them, although he denies that his views are racist and states that he is merely an opponent of mass immigration. This incident was the main inspiration for the formation of Rock Against Racism).

• Clapton went into a rap about Enoch. His initial line was "Enoch's right - I think we should send them back." I don't think he said "nigger" he said "wogs". He definitely said, "Keep Britain White". Nobody cheered, but after he played another song, he did the same again. It was extraordinary - but he stood there being overtly offensive and racist. I was completely mystified as to why this man playing black music would behave this way."
  • Author Caryl Philips, referring to the aforementioned Birmingham concert in 1976, at which Phillips was present. Quoted by author Robin Denselow in When The Music Stopped: The Story of Political Pop, Faber and Faber (1989), pp. 138-139.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton

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Vote for Enoch Powell,' came the counsel from a stage in the West Midlands. 'Stop Britain from becoming a black colony ... Get the foreigners out ... I used to be into dope, now I'm into racism. It's much heavier, man.' Not some ranting nutcase from the National Front, but an inebriated Eric Clapton (now CBE), formerly of Cream and latterly of Hello! magazine. Yes, Clapton - who played the blues, but whose outburst in August 1976 came hot on the heels of another from David Bowie, proclaiming Adolf Hitler to be 'the first rock star' and urging that what Britain needed was a 'right-wing dictatorship'. People may feel grateful to Bowie and Clapton for their own reasons, but perhaps the most gratifying contribution this duo made to music was to detonate the revulsion at their sentiments and clear the stage for Rock Against Racism, the first edition of whose fanzine, Temporary Hoarding, appeared on May Day 30 years ago. 'We want rebel music,' it proclaimed. 'Crisis Music. Now Music. Music that knows who the real enemy is. Rock Against Racism.'


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Sorry, slightly off topic there. I apologise.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

You could nominate George Benson amongst many other great black guitarists

Certainly. And Lenny Kravitz

Originally Posted by English Noodles

The following little outburst of his at a concert in the UK kind of gave it away.

From the good old 'Rock against Clapton' days

^ He was anything but special mate when it come to playing a guitar but history will show he was in the right place at the right time doing things people wanted to see, like burning Fender Strats.

The first full blown music marketing tool and they marketed him to death and are still doing so.