Koh Phangan - German complains about drug parties, gets shot.

**Scandinavian** · 04-04-2009, 01:42 AM

A German expatriate based in Koh Phangan who was injured in a recent attack for his campaign against drug parties on the resort island yesterday made a public statement complaining about the delay in police investigation into the incident.

Flederer Ralf, 39, who is now in a safe condition after being shot three times by two invaders last Monday night, said he had feared for his life and was expecting a future attack.

Pol Colonel Jaroon Uchupharb, chief of Koh Phangan police on the island off the Surat Thani coast, said Ralf did not fully cooperate with police, without explaining why the victim was uncooperative.

The officer said he thought the attackers did not mean to kill Ralf, but possibly wanted to merely threaten him. "I learnt that the attackers knocked on Ralf's house with a baseball bat, but were attacked first by Ralf. So the attackers fired some warning shots," he added.

"Anyway, police will take action to locate the attackers," he said.

Residing on Koh Phangan island for 17 years, Ralf has been campaigning against parties in which drugs and alcohol were openly used, except for the original full moon parties. He said he was disliked by organisers of other parties and this could be a motive behind the attack.

Phanu Woramit, a local Tourism Authority of Thailand official, said there were many parties in recent years in an attempt to draw more foreign tourists to Koh Phangan. He made no comments on the attack on Ralf.

**Scandinavian** · 04-04-2009, 01:45 AM

^To me this means cops and TAT officials on Ko Phangan are perfectly ok with drug parties there, be it any day. Cos it brings tourists there.
Haha...

Kraut there needs to find himself another island, why the heck did he move there in the first place???

**dirtydog** · 04-04-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

So the attackers fired some warning shots," he added.

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

after being shot three times

Fok me, and thats just a warning, wonder what the fok they do when they want to kill you....

**Spin** · 04-04-2009, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

Ralf has been campaigning against parties in which drugs and alcohol were openly used, except for the original full moon parties

So Ralf is happy with the full moon party buy not any other party, even though the full moon party has been the centre of the world for drug takers since the first one 1990.

Ralf is a dick.

**Scandinavian** · 04-04-2009, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

Ralf has been campaigning against parties in which drugs and alcohol were openly used, except for the original full moon parties

So Ralf is happy with the full moon party buy not any other party, even though the full moon party has been the centre of the world for drug takers since the first one 1990.

Ralf is a dick.

A dumb dick. Google says he's a web designer on Ko Phangan. Here he is:

"Beckspaced.com - WebDesign, Hosting & Solutions

CEO Flederer Ralf

P.O. Box 15
Thongsala
84280 Koh Phangan
Suratthani / Thailand
Phone: 077-377 733
Mobile: 087-2828826
----------------------------------------------
Optimism is only a lack of information!
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WebDesign & Hosting - Koh Phangan Web Design & Hosting : Web Design Programming Internet Applications : Web Design Hosting SEO Search Engine Optimization Internet Solutions Advanced PHP Programming Database Design Scripting Server Administration - Are You Beckspaced?
Phangan Independent News - ISLAND DISCOVERY KHO PHANGAN ACCOMMODATION : KOH PHANGAN NEWS : HUT ISLAND MAP TRAVEL INFORMATION KO PHANGAN BUNGALOWS KO PHA-NGAN TOURIST CABIN KOH PHA-NGAN - The Awful Truth!

_______________________________________________ "

**dirtydog** · 04-04-2009, 03:15 AM

He does the koh Phangan news web site.

ISLAND DISCOVERY KHO PHANGAN ACCOMMODATION : KOH PHANGAN NEWS : HUT ISLAND MAP TRAVEL INFORMATION KO PHANGAN BUNGALOWS KO PHA-NGAN TOURIST CABIN KOH PHA-NGAN

**dirtydog** · 04-04-2009, 03:19 AM

Sort of stuff he writes one might not be suprised that he was shot.

The Shiva Moon Party closed at 9 a.m. the following morning and again simply just proofs the uselessness of any Koh Phangan Island officials and the general lack of interest in their duty.

So … shit goes from top to the bottom and therefore Koh Phangan’s new Police and new District Chief finally receive the status of being TOTALLY CORRUPT like most of the people here already suggested.

GUESTHOUSE KHO PHA-NGAN NEWS MAGAZINE : GENERAL INFORMATION : SHIVA MOON PARTY - HOW CORRUPT ARE KOH PHANGAN'S ISLAND OFFICIALS? : ISLAND MAP KOH PHANGAN BUDGET PARADISE HUT HOLIDAY RENTALS KHO PHANGAN KO PHA-NGAN

**dirtydog** · 04-04-2009, 03:27 AM

Well … let’s start with beginning of last months February 2009. Exactly during that time when Koh Phangan Island News Headquarters decided to publish the most controversial and also judgmental article about Techno Party Battlefield Baan Tai village, the local corrupt authorities from the Island of Madness, chief of district and police, finally got contacted and being issued a warning by some higher authorities from the mainland in Suratthani and capital city Bangkok.
By the way, all party zone articles are up and online again to provide you an overview of the happenings of the last 3 years. A good point to start reading is here as it links to all the previous articles.
Then just shortly after we published our masterpiece banishing all parties in and around Baan Tai village we received some strange anonymous phone calls at our secret underground base facilities.
“Hey Beckmann, you better shut the fuck up! You’re mafia and we think it is better for you to leave the island! If you don’t stop now you better watch your head as something might start happening to you and then you will know who we are!”, the anonymous phone caller said.

Techno Party Zone Madness Report Techno Party Zone Madness Report Techno Party Zone Madness Report
Well … Becki sort of expected some wicked island insanity to happen and then 2-3 days later a young but mostly angry Thai bloke showed up at my place with a not so very friendly looking face to send me another warning. He left without saying a word but the message was obvious and more than crystal clear.
The next day Becki received some internal forwarded warnings from some party organizers via a good friend of mine and the message was one more time more than easy to understand.
Becki, there are only two options! You have to leave the island or take your website offline!
Well … taking Koh Phangan Island News website offline was indeed not an option as we live in a free world and the power of free speech should indeed not be suppressed in any way.
So the next night Becki finally had the very rare pleasure listening to some gunfire at my place while sitting on the veranda doing whatever I was doing. Three warning shots have been fired from a distance and Becki could hear the bullets dashing through the coconut palm tree leaves next to my house. Impressive!
Again … the message was more than obvious! Peace, love and dance? Come and satisfy your soul? You better decide!
A few days later, 17th February 2009, another internal emergency meeting had been held at the district office and finally the first parties had been shut down by 2 am. First Jungle Experience 19th February 2009, then Baan Sabai, Destination Party, etc …
At that point, with the friendly and outstanding support from our Senior Techno Party Analyst, Dr. Prof. M.A.D. Amber Holland, from the United States of America, we finally decided to temporarily remove all critical party zone articles for the moment being.
Koh Phangan Island News finally had the impression that our agenda was showing the first results and therefore decided to calm down the more than hot emotions by temporarily moving the judgmental party articles into the archive section.
Not just because of all the recent threats from some party organizers!
Free speech is an important tool and should not be allowed to be suppressed or censored! But once the necessary results have been achieved it’s a good time to calm down and relax a bit to avoid collateral damage. This is not about war … fighting each other. This is about improving things to find a better solution for everyone and keep real peace in Baan Tai village.
Join us in becoming human again! Spread the word and help make Koh Phangan a better place - thanks!

KO PHA-NGAN ISLAND DISCOVERY REAL ESTATE : GENERAL INFORMATION : KOH PHANGAN PARTY ISLAND – TECHNO PARTY ZONE MADNESS REPORT PART 1 : FARANG PROPERTY RENTAL KO PHANGAN REAL ESTATE AGENT KHO PHANGAN ISLAND INFO TRAVEL GUIDE KHO PHA-NGAN PROPERTY LEASE

**Spin** · 04-04-2009, 03:34 AM

Never knew he was in ZZ top

**EmperorTud** · 04-04-2009, 04:17 AM

^ you didn't recognise him without his beard.

**jizzybloke** · 04-04-2009, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

Koh Phangan - German complains, gets shot.

yeah and?

**helge** · 04-04-2009, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by jizzybloke

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

Koh Phangan - German complains, gets shot.

yeah and?

Is this your tuff guy version of the Milkman 'Good' comment ?

**jizzybloke** · 04-04-2009, 05:57 AM

^No, why the fuck do i care about some German who whinges about parties on Koh Phangan?

**Bexar County Stud** · 04-04-2009, 09:42 AM

Probably unwise for Ralf to get involved, but I support his stance. Seems to me the regular Thai folks who live on the island and put up with spoiled Euro-brat drug parties don't like it much, and most likely receive little monetary benefit from the hordes of Trustifarians that descend on their island.

The residents of Koh Phangan and the backpackers who gravitate there see the full moon differently. For the visitors, it's the signal for a wild and possibly once-in-a-lifetime beach party. For the citizens, it means yet another sleepless night.

The problem, of course, is that not everyone on Koh Phangan wants to dance all night and sleep on the beach all the next day. Most residents are involved in agriculture and everyday commerce and like to get to bed early.

Residents of the village of Baan Tai wrote to the governor of Surat Thani last November, complaining that the parties were depriving more than 100 households of sleep.

"What's worse is the drug dealers who hang around the guesthouses pushing marijuana to the tourists on party nights," they said, adding that theft was becoming common and more sober-minded tourists were shunning the island.

Beneath the troubled moon

Ralf is a dick.

Nah, the drug takers, drug dealers, mafia etc are the dicks in this case.

**Chairman Mao** · 04-04-2009, 09:53 AM

Rule #2. Don't involve yourself in anything here.

So … shit goes from top to the bottom and therefore Koh Phangan’s new Police and new District Chief finally receive the status of being TOTALLY CORRUPT like most of the people here already suggested.

Of course nothing bad will happen to people who publicly accuse authorities of being corrupt scum here... moron.

**AnthonyR1** · 04-04-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Scandinavian

Residing on Koh Phangan island for 17 years, Ralf has been campaigning against parties in which drugs and alcohol were openly used

so fucking move! he has no right to be campaigning against anything.
how many times did they shoot him?

**terry57** · 04-04-2009, 10:19 AM

Ralf is an absolute cock sucker.

The foking muppet has been living on Koh Phan gan for 17 years and here he is sticking the knife into the pigs and the party people. ????????

I'll be on koh phan gan in a few months and I'll make sure I put a cap in that bastards arse and then give him a good kicking because his grand father started the War.

**AnthonyR1** · 04-04-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Sort of stuff he writes one might not be suprised that he was shot.

no kidding! dangerous ground

**Jet Gorgon** · 04-04-2009, 10:53 AM

I wonder if he is the man that had a house up on the hill in the mid 1990s. It was lovely up there and then they created the Back Yard. The guy left the island the two or three days a week they had parties.
So, the attackers had a baseball bat, too? 555

**Bexar County Stud** · 04-04-2009, 10:58 AM

Some humorous photogs out there of the rave babies in action:

"You! You! Where you go?" Ian McPhancypants appears to have lost his way. Better get Mommie and Daddy on the phone for another cash infusion. He's on a journey of self-discovery you see.

We found this french dude in Hat Rin at 7am on a quad bike, and paid him 3000 baht (£45 so a small fortune!) to give both of us a lift home. Trouble was we couldnt remember the name of our resort, and drove for 2 hours all over the island trying to find it. He was stoned and kept wanting to stop and pick mushrooms. Got home end the end miraculously without killing ourselves, and even saw some elephants along the way. Cool!

so fucking move! he has no right to be campaigning against anything.

Yeah, expressing your opinion on the interenet. How dare he? LOL, don't be such a bootlicker.

**AnthonyR1** · 04-04-2009, 11:08 AM

Yeah, expressing your opinion on the interenet. How dare he? LOL, don't be such a bootlicker.[/quote]
i have no issue with someone expressing their opinion dude, hardly the point. in this case however he's not on home turf and he's attacking those who are obviously capable of retribution which just shows how moronic he is. 17 years and he obviously hasn't learned a single thing about this place. undoubtedly his next string of articles (if he gets the chance) with be bidding for public sympathy and gloating about how right he was.......we'll see how this one ends but i bet we can all predict that outcome.

**melvbot** · 04-04-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by AnthonyR1

i have no issue with someone expressing their opinion dude, hardly the point. in this case however he's not on home turf and he's attacking those who are obviously capable of retribution which just shows how moronic he is. 17 years and he obviously hasn't learned a single thing about this place.

Very true, he must have mistakenly thought that living there for 17 years gave him some sort of right to voice his opinion against the parties and what goes on. The guy was stupid in thinking that he had some sort of sway or voice in this matter, the outcome would be plain to see for anyone with half a brain.

**Bexar County Stud** · 04-04-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by AnthonyR1

i have no issue with someone expressing their opinion dude, hardly the point. in this case however he's not on home turf and he's attacking those who are obviously capable of retribution which just shows how moronic he is. 17 years and he obviously hasn't learned a single thing about this place. undoubtedly his next string of articles (if he gets the chance) with be bidding for public sympathy and gloating about how right he was.......we'll see how this one ends but i bet we can all predict that outcome.

So now you're changing your tune it seems. Unwise and stupid is different than "he has no right," and "so fucking move."

I don't usually sympathize with folks who seem to go out of their way to put themselves in harms way (ala Harry, the lese majeste pundit), but this case is totally different.
His objections appear to be inline with Thai residents of the Island who have complained about the parties, and we're talking about illegal activity that has obviously impacted local communities in a negative way (drugs, corruption, etc).

As a foreigner, it's common-sense not to get involved in local matters unless you're willing to pay the price.
However, it doesn't follow that people shouldn't have free speech rights, nor that one should just "fucking move" whenever there's a problem. Sometimes foolish courage is more admirable than sensible cowardice.

**Chairman Mao** · 04-04-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

His objections appear to be inline with Thai residents of the Island who have complained about the parties

Plus him calling the new Police and new District Chief TOTALLY CORRUPT.

Kraut Moron:
Koh Phangan’s new Police and new District Chief finally receive the status of being TOTALLY CORRUPT

Not the smartest lad.

**Loy Toy** · 04-04-2009, 12:14 PM

Another example of a farang sticking his nose where it is not welcome.

I also would not like if rowdy drug parties was being held in the same area that I live..........oh shit I live in Pattaya..........quick luv grab the kids......... where off out of here!

If your not happy Ralf fuck of back to The Rhineland before they send you back in a box.

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