US Presidential Campaign 2008

**Texpat** · 29-10-2008, 02:02 AM

Get used to it. America is the hegemonic power.
It will act to defend that until another (China) comes along and shakes things up.
Europe will continue to whine until then.

Here's a hint: Small equals little. Keep dividing yourselves into increasingly miniature bits... Your continental association is pathetic.

The next threat to USA will be a South American collusion.

Can you explain how your system encourages people to get out and take care of themselves rather than lay back and become a drai9n on the system?

Keep it. We're nothing like you.
I seem to hear a lot of complaining among Brit ex-pats in Thailand regarding your system's coddling of lay-abouts.
Is that what you're proud of? Is that what you consider progress?

Keep it. We're nothing like you. Where we come from, you have to earn your keep.

**Texpat** · 29-10-2008, 02:19 AM

Perhaps if you had demanded fair work for fair pay among your greedy layabouts a few decades ago, you might not be berating America for doing what most of you sorry bastards wish you had done 50 years ago.

Get over it. You fucked up and gave your wealth away to people who didn't earn anything, but made you feel "good" about accepting them.

Fuck them. They're you're ruin. And most Brits agree with me, not you.

I expect and accept the deluge of reds. But I'll also receive a few greens for saying what is widely known but taboo to admit.

**mad_dog** · 29-10-2008, 04:04 AM

I have no idea what the point of your diatribe is. Your contention that the US will remain the hegemon in a unipolar world doesn't bare up to the long term demographic trends in the world. You seem to have singled me out as a supporter of "socialist" policies such as a welfare state. I am infact a Libertarian and as such believe in a small government as is possible.

It is interesting that you imediately assume somekind of "reds under the bed" threat when I point out America's repeated support for genocide and terrorism. It makes you seem as out of touch as old John McCain who has also, hilariously, spent a considerable amount of time campaining on the socialist threat and the "red peril" during the 2008 presidential elections.

Your repeated references to "50 years ago " makes me think you are living in the wrong century. I agree that America is nothing like the rest of the world .Try drawing up a list of allies in which the domestic population actually have positive views of America and its primary foreign policies. The list will be short.

In a way it is sad to see the way the US has squandered its one true strength as a super power; its soft power American cinema and media and technology allows America to exert an enourmous amount of infliuence throughout the whole world; far more than any military might could. But even in other anglo-phone countries who share a cultural, religious, liguistic and historical ties the maveric "do what we say fucker" violent, aggresive, ignorant behaviour of the US aborad has led to 1/3 of Britons regarding the US as a force for evil. (economist.com) If America has lost the battle for hearts and minds so badly in a country with which it has so many links one can only guess at the damage America has done to its image with cultures that are far removed from Americas....

Its the belicose sepo fools who can't tell the Left Bank from the West Bank who believe they can bomb their way to popularity who have damaged America. Sex Pat and his ilk are the greatest threat America has ever faced: The enemy from within.

**Boon Mee** · 29-10-2008, 04:14 AM

It's McCain - Three to One Over Obama

That is... if you ask our Troops who they want for Commander-in-Chief.

leftist media giant Gannett News Service is well known for its support of the democrats. And, you likely also know that Gannett owns The Military Times, Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Times, and still, Gannett newspapers continue to publish anti-war articles.

So, in what is likely to be one of the biggest surprises of this election, Gannett, via The Military Times, has allowed the publication of a military-wide election survey from all branches.

Go here for all the details...

**sabang** · 29-10-2008, 04:27 AM

Not surprised that the military is in favour of McCain (they always side republican), but surprised at the dominance.

Given the rather urgent financial mess the US is in right now and Democrat fiscal responsibility, I imagine the armed forces will be seeing some cuts, or at least freezes in expenditure. Obama may well also get the Pentagon to justify several of it's myriad bases scattered around the world. Maybe they realise this.

**Fstop** · 29-10-2008, 08:03 AM

Great points, Tex. I'd green you if I could.

**AntRobertson** · 29-10-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

If you look at who actually calls the shots, and pay attention to it, you might begin to understand that it's the guy on the street. Maybe that's an alien idea to you, but that's how we do it.

Idealistic nonsense. The 'guy on the street' gets to vote in an election for Candidate A or B from parties C and D once every four years and must otherwise pay their taxes for things that they mightn't even approve of. The majority of Americans are now opposed to the war in Iraq and yet it continues. Perfect example.

I expect and accept the deluge of reds. But I'll also receive a few greens for saying what is widely known but taboo to admit.

Yes I'm sure Boon Mee, Earl, Jet, and atta will be sending you greens as per.

**Boon Mee** · 30-10-2008, 04:11 AM

Here's another big Barack Obama supporter: Hatem El-Hady, former chairman of the Toledo-based Islamic charity Kindhearts, closed by the US government in 2006 for terrorist fundraising: Terrorist Fundraisers for Obama.

El-Hady has now devoted himself to raising money for Barack Obama; he has a page at the official Obama campaign web site, with three “friends” listed on it: “Rick,” “Fatima from Toledo, Ohio,” and ... Michelle Obama. But, guess who's name was recently scrubbed? That's right...initials MO?

**panama hat** · 30-10-2008, 07:15 AM

^ Smearing at every turn, BM?

It won't work = YOU WILL HAVE A BLACK DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT

**S Landreth** · 30-10-2008, 10:51 AM

In case you missed it,….here is Obama’s infomercial:

**Jet Gorgon** · 30-10-2008, 12:27 PM

Utopia here they come. Gag me with a spoon. Too bad he left out nuclear power and where the money for all those freebies will come from. Have to add that this "show" reminds me of The Truman Show movie.

**barbaro** · 01-11-2008, 03:21 PM

Here is a link with info on every single state. All 50.

Many house and Senate races analyzed as well as voter demographics.

Enjoy: Chuck Toddâ€™s state-by-state election guide - Decision '08

**Jet Gorgon** · 01-11-2008, 11:47 PM

^ Chuck Todd is the only sane person on MSNBC.

Brian Williams used to be unbiased. Brokaw is trying his best on Meet the Press, but Tim he ain't.

**Boon Mee** · 02-11-2008, 02:14 AM

So what's it gonna be next, eh? We got the Rev. Wright, Tony Rezco, the PLO spokesman who's tape the LA Times is hiding etc., etc.

But, but now we got an illegal Aunt!

Obama’s illegal alien aunt (and campaign donor!) is a deportation fugitive; Turns out Aunti Zeituni Onyango, one of Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama’s many relatives made famous in his memoir, is an illegal alien. And not just a run-of-the-mill illegal alien on welfare.

Barack Obama’s aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.
Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as “Aunti Zeituni” in Obama’s memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango’s case.
Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcment official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status

Right...

**Boon Mee** · 02-11-2008, 02:22 AM

More on The Aunt:

* How did she contribute a total of $260 to her nephew’s campaign in a series of small donations from her South Boston address if she is not a United States citizen?

** Are many illegal immigrants and foreigners submitting small donations to the Obama campaign in order to avoid scrutiny by the FEC?

** How does she qualify for public housing if she is not a United States citizen?

** How is Obama to be trusted to reform the immigration system if his relatives are breaking immigration laws and living illegally in this country?

** And why did the Senator not file a form I-130, a Petition for Alien Relative, on behalf of his aunt after her request for political asylum was rejected? As a United States Senator, he certainly could expedite the adjudication of such a petition.

Sounds like a little bit of corruption going on here, eh?
But that's OK - The One (AKA Messiah) is allowed these small foibles

Obama Relegates Aunt Who Resides Illegally in US to the Shadows While Taking Her Campaign Contributions [Updated] : NO QUARTER

**Jet Gorgon** · 02-11-2008, 03:14 AM

No paper trail to Obama's donors as I heard it. Something to check.

**panama hat** · 02-11-2008, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

No paper trail to Obama's donors as I heard it.

Jet Gorgon . . . in the know and in the loop

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Something to check.

Jet Gorgon . . . private eye . . .

You have two days . . . and counting . . . tic toc tic toc

**Norton** · 02-11-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

It won't work = YOU WILL HAVE A BLACK DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT

Don't count your chitlin's before their hatched.

I have seen enough polls and predictions that where wrong to understand the only poll that counts is the one done on Nov 4. We'll know on Nov 5 for sure.

Many thought it would be impossible for GWB to be reelected last go around and much to their surprise and dismay he was.

**barbaro** · 02-11-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by panama hat

It won't work = YOU WILL HAVE A BLACK DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT

Don't count your chitlin's before their hatched.

I have seen enough polls and predictions that where wrong to understand the only poll that counts is the one done on Nov 4. We'll know on Nov 5 for sure.

Many thought it would be impossible for GWB to be reelected last go around and much to their surprise and dismay he was.

Yes.

I've been keeping my fingers crossed. I am positive on a BO victory as I support him, but still a little wary.

I don't trust US elections, anymore.

But I am keeping some faith and waiting for 2 1/2 more days.

**raycarey** · 02-11-2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

I have seen enough polls and predictions that where wrong to understand the only poll that counts is the one done on Nov 4. We'll know on Nov 5 for sure.

too true. there was an article on politico the other day noting that the big winners in ohio will be the lawyers.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Brokaw is trying his best on Meet the Press, but Tim he ain't.

hold on, i thought it was 'mr. russert'? such informality displayed by a woman of your advanced age is unseemly. tsk, tsk

**Boon Mee** · 03-11-2008, 04:06 AM

I wont have to worry about putting gas in my car, I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage.. You know, If I help him, he's gonna help me."

and how about this one where it's Marxist for the Win!

**Jet Gorgon** · 03-11-2008, 08:20 AM

^ Booners, see Lysander's Boon Mee thread.

**panama hat** · 03-11-2008, 09:38 AM

At last, someone with credible challenges to Obama's economic policies (No, Jet, nothing to do with tourism)

Arnold Schwarzenegger criticises Obama over his skinny legs

November 3, 2008 - 10:08AM

Muscleman-turned-actor-turned-politician Arnold Schwarzenegger called on Barack Obama to beef up his his policies - and his body - at a high-voltage campaign rally for Republican John McCain.
Schwarzenegger, the Hollywood action hero who is now the Republican governor of California, delighted a crowd of several thousand at a McCain campaign event in Ohio by ridiculing both Obama's policies and his slender physique.

The Austrian-born former Mr Universe has hosted a bodybuilding tournament in Columbus for several years, and opened his address by inviting Obama to participate in the next event.
"Every year in March I come here to organize the Arnold Classic, which is all about building the body and pumping," Schwarzenegger said.

"That's why I want to invite Senator Obama because he needs to do something about those skinny legs. I'm going to make him do some squats.

"And then we're going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms. But if he could only do something about putting some meat on his ideas.

"Senator McCain on the other hand is built like a rock. (

) His character and his views are solid."
McCain and Schwarzenegger rolled into the Nationwide Arena Hockey Stadium together on the Republican candidate's "Straight Talk Express", the campaign bus that has ferried him on a two-day blitz of this battleground state.

Yaddah yaddah yaddah

Arnold Schwarzenegger criticises Obama over his skinny legs - US Election

McCain is built like a rock . . . like when he got his zimmer frame caught on the steps leading up to the podium . . .

(no, no, no the last note was an injection of humour on my part)

**barbaro** · 03-11-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

At last, someone with credible challenges to Obama's economic policies (No, Jet, nothing to do with tourism)

Arnold Schwarzenegger criticises Obama over his skinny legs

More silliness and stupidity in another campaign.

With all of the problems facing the US, the campaign is a farce of soundbites and off-topic distortions.

**Jet Gorgon** · 03-11-2008, 09:48 AM

^ Funny, hatter thinks my business in equities and fixed income is tourism related. Is he retarded? Someone please help him.

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