Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

What a race! The R's have three different winners in three different races....

There have been articles released today discussing the possibility of a brokered convention, in Sept. It's possible.

MM, good idea to start this thread. Was getting confusing with all the others. Hillary, Romney, Huckabee etc. threads.

I thought I started a combined thread on this already. But, go for it MM.

Why does it have to go on for so long?! In the UK, there's usually about six weeks of bullshit before everyone gets to vote. In the US, it seems to be over a year.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I thought I started a combined thread on this already. But, go for it MM.

I thought there was one but somehow I can't find it. Link?

The republicans are screwed in '08.

they will be up against...
the seemingly never ending war in iraq
the bush legacy (AKA he who will not be mentioned)
a recession (with the very real possibility of stagflation)
massive amounts of home foreclosures

and the memories of the incompetence exhibited during katrina, the gay sex scandals of mark foley and larry craig, etc... certainly aren't going to bring out the base.

expect a brokered convention where the republican jackals tear each other to threads.

the dems will win the white house---and if it's anyone other than hillary, they'll pick up more seats in the house, and quite possibly a super majority in the senate.

Originally Posted by raycarey

The republicans are screwed in '08.

they will be up against...
the seemingly never ending war in iraq
the bush legacy (AKA he who will not be mentioned)
a recession (with the very real possibility of stagflation)
massive amounts of home foreclosures

Agree that the above problems are bad, and it may be a tough year economically.

Not good for the incumbent in the Executive office, IMO.

But....don't count out the GOP yet, Ray.

The Democrats have a bad history of Presidential campaigns. partly do to their nominees, partly do to their policies.

Below is a link on the the dirty tricks being used against McCain in South Carolina.

There is a group that is calling South Carolinians and telling them lies about McCain. False, lies. This is much the same as the most dirty tactics played out in the South Carolina Primary in 2000, by GWB. McCain won New Hampshire in 2000, but GWB won in South Carolina and derailed McCain. Racist push-polling.

Below is the article on then, (2000) and now.

McCain fights familiar smears in S.C. - The New York Times - MSNBC.com


P.S. Do posters here think there should be two separate threads on the US election:

A Democrat election thread, and

A Republican election thread?

Or, should this one include the candidates from both parties?

One is enough for me. If we have two now later we will need another.

Yeah, one is enough clowns to entertain us for the next year.

^ Agreed.

Here are two separate links for the (D) and (R) Primaries. I don't like they lay outs. They don't seem user-friendly, but here they are anyway:

D: Democratic Party & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R: Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Select a Candidate 2008

There, check that link and see how you are doing..

If Fred Thompson doesn't win, I'm leaving the country.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

If Fred Thompson doesn't win, I'm leaving the country.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Especially because if he does throw his hat in the ring for the Republican nomination, he'll win.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Unfortunately, I really don't have a candidate as yet. It's all a pack of 'no-hopers' at ths point...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, what can I say, Fred isn't quite up to the task measured by his recent appearences so...I'm sitting on the sidelines for now.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

THE NEW YORK TIMES reports that Fred Thompson is surging in South Carolina. He's still my favorite over McCain..

More flip-flops than a beached fish.

^
Heh...w/out me on this forum, your life would have no meaning!

^ I don't think about you on Xmas day Booners

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ I don't think about you on Xmas day Booners

Christmas Day is just another day in the year to those of use entrusted with finding the oil that keeps your bus running to work there ant!

^ Just another day to think about me eh Booners.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^ Just another day to think about me eh Booners.

Just another Salad Day for me there anty.
Salad as defined as pity for one such as yourself inflicted with Severe Acquired Leftist Anencephlic Dementia - SALAD

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Why does it have to go on for so long?! In the UK, there's usually about six weeks of bullshit before everyone gets to vote. In the US, it seems to be over a year.

Remember they're just nominations for leadership! And it's a republic. I think it's more democratic to let regular people vote, state by state.

Ok predictions then for which Dems/Repubs will win South Carolina/Nevada tomorrow (Saturday)? Still a very close race.

^actually that's not 100% correct. Leadership (of the party for the forthcoming election) is not voted on until the Party Convention and there is no law that a delegate must vote for the person elected at State level.

By way of example, HC could win all the states' votes, but at the Convention BO could be voted in.

Unlikely to ever happen - yes. But possible under the law.

^ But perhaps possible in a very close election, like this one What if one candidate were scandalized or accused of something leading up to the convention? Couldn't the delegates change their vote?

I think it's more democratic to let regular people vote, state by state.

There is a budding "National Popular Vote" Movement, that wants to give all of the delegates in every state and D.C. to the candidate that wins the entire national vote. As we know, Al Gore received more votes than GWB in 2000.

At the moment, a couple of states (e.g. CO) split the delegates allotted to a candidate bases on the percentages of votes they receive in the state.

Here is one link to the National Popular Vote Movement: National Popular Vote -- Electoral college reform by direct election of the President