Thread: Sarah Palin

So I have to accept their are conservative voters. Okay I do. But how the hell can you say that you accept Sarah Palin as a possible president. She knows nothing about geography let alone foreign affairs. She is a religious nutter, who is against abortion in all cases. Add to this she does not believe in Global Warming, supports no changes in the tax structure to make the rich pay. And is strong supporter of continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I just cant believe it. It may be real but it breaks my heart what a conservative will do to keep power. Let a female retard run the country. We have had a male one for the last 8 years and look what happened.

Originally Posted by Bugs

Engergized the base, tons of free press coverage (without her even going out to stump the press directly), and they're up in the polls.

well the timing is optimum, Obama's bump for his being the first black candidate has seen it's sell by date come and gone and as they say in a race, which is better? starting off strong or finishing strong?

Originally Posted by sabang

People who are convinced that God is on their side make me quite nervous.

totally agree, I can't stand it when someone just wins a NASCAR race or some other event and the first thing they say is how basically "God" has made them the most important one on that day and shite all over the other 39 teams for whatever reason..

To think for one minute that should there be a 'god' that it would have even the slightest inclination as to who won such a trivial contest goes way beyond the bounds of arrogance and self importance.

Originally Posted by aging one

Let a female retard run the country.

Did I miss something along the way here ? when did McCain die?? Didn't know she was going to have so much power as a VP? seriously quite a bit of "sky is falling" type of over reaction don't ya think?

The "charismatic" xian's a fecking nuts. No way do I want one second in line for the presidency.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Did I miss something along the way here ? when did McCain die?? Didn't know she was going to have so much power as a VP? seriously quite a bit of "sky is falling" type of over reaction don't ya think?

McCain has active melanoma the most dangerous form of skin cancer. He must have a checkup every 3 months. He has also had polyps removed from his colon on several occasions. Add to this he will be the oldest president ever elected and I think you have a decent chance of death during his term.. Something to be thought about.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

The "charismatic" xian's a fecking nuts. No way do I want one second in line for the presidency.

McCains his own man and there's an entire house and senate to contend with which is also democratically run at the moment I might add, and even if it wasn't, Pentecostals are hardly the majority x'ians and they're beliefs are not nearly wide enough to hypnotise and adveresly effect the rest of the republican base = still over reacting..

Originally Posted by aging one

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Did I miss something along the way here ? when did McCain die?? Didn't know she was going to have so much power as a VP? seriously quite a bit of "sky is falling" type of over reaction don't ya think?

McCain has active melanoma the most dangerous form of skin cancer. He must have a checkup every 3 months. He has also had polyps removed from his colon on several occasions. Add to this he will be the oldest president ever elected and I think you have a decent chance of death during his term.. Something to be thought about.

Nobody is ignoring anything but did you see his mother the other day? I don't even know how old she is but she looks vital enough to run the country so he has some good genes..
Lance Armstrong (though admittedly not 72, but age isn't much of a factor in such cases) had metastatic testicular cancer and it wasn't a death sentence he still won 7 Tour de France titles following his treatment and trained all the way through riding 20 miles per day.

JFK was only 46 and his VP got us into Vietnam after succession, the point is there is no way of knowing and our primary concern should be the candidates at the front of the ticket first and foremost as everything else is out of our control anyway, anything else is just distractionary and just a detraction away from the real issues at hand.

well stated, but just knowing who is number two is enough for me. She is a joke, and should be considered as one.

Originally Posted by spiff

It's one thing to have a religious belief which informs one's conscience and decisions, another to believe one knows god's will and base one's actions on it.

The latter characterises zealots and theocracies.

Not sure if you have spent any time out in the heartland of America, espcially in the bible belt (Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennesee, etc). But there are millions of Americans that think just the way you feel is over the top - that they way they think people should live their lives is gods will, and as such that is why they choose to live their lives the way they do.

This is not to say I agree with them because I don't. But trying to ignore or belittle this portion of the US population in a national race will make your chances of winning very slim.

I don't look for Obama or Biden to make an issue out of Palin's religion.

Originally Posted by Bugs

Originally Posted by spiff

It's one thing to have a religious belief which informs one's conscience and decisions, another to believe one knows god's will and base one's actions on it.

The latter characterises zealots and theocracies.

Not sure if you have spent any time out in the heartland of America, espcially in the bible belt (Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennesee, etc). But there are millions of Americans that think just the way you feel is over the top - that they way they think people should live their lives is gods will, and as such that is why they choose to live their lives the way they do.

No, I have not, but my impression matches your assessment.

Palin was not chosen for her pretty face...

This is not to say I agree with them because I don't. But trying to ignore or belittle this portion of the US population in a national race will make your chances of winning very slim.

I don't look for Obama or Biden to make an issue out of Palin's religion.

You may well be right there, and I believe this partly explains the fervour with which Palin is being attacked on non-official platforms.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

fair enough you won't be the only one voting that perception, but in the end the one getting my vote will be the person I have the most faith in regarding their track record, experience and what they are realistically able to accomplish during their term and only secondarily the experience of the second in command and a hypothetical 'what if?'..

Same for me, and my guy has less of a chance of dying. Statistically. I just cant do anymore hard time. My friends that are business men in the states have always voted republican. But they have kids. Thinking of the future they may very well vote Obama.

Originally Posted by Bugs

Not sure what you mean by situation? The situation of being a devout Pentecostal?

No, of course not. I was best man at a friend's wedding down in Clearwater a few years back . . . Southern Baptists . . . I have no problem with religions themselves, only their influence on life in general if it doesn't coincide with my view on life.

I meant the situation of representing a country while espousing her religious values, but you already answered that.

Originally Posted by Bugs

The congress has a chaplain and a morning prayer amoung other things that intertwine the two.

muslim/xian/jew -- all different flavors.

Heh...y'all in the minority then!

McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents

Majority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%

McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents

i'd really like to know more about the alleged vetting that took place on palin.

mccain's campaign told a blatant lie about an FBI background check that never took place.

and her local paper confirmed that no one from his campaign searched their archives.

i wonder if they even bothered to google her.

this hausfrau was selected because she's a religious nut and mccain is pandering to the psychotic fundamentalists that hijacked the republican party during the 80s.

real republicans (goldwater, buckley, rockefeller, etc...) are spinning in their graves.

^Are we desperate or what!

No worries Ray - you can blabber on for another 4yrs when McCain and Palin take office.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^Are we desperate or what!

increasingly so....it seems......

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Lance Armstrong (though admittedly not 72, but age isn't much of a factor in such cases) had metastatic testicular cancer and it wasn't a death sentence he still won 7 Tour de France titles following his treatment and trained all the way through riding 20 miles per day.

I know this is off topic but I couldn't pass up the incredible irony of my mentioning him and then it comes out that he maybe seeking his 8th next year..

False Internet claims and rumors fly about McCain's running mate.


By Brooks Jackson, Jess Henig, Emi Kolawole, Joe Miller and Lori Robertson | factcheck.org

Summary
We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

A few of these claims were included in a chain e-mail by a woman named Anne Kilkenny. We'll be looking into other charges in that e-mail for a future story. For more explanation of the bullet points above, please read the Analysis.

Factcheck.org: Sliming Palin | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com