Thread: Sarah Palin

By mid century whites will be a miniority in the usa.

we are turning a corner that is bigger than class for americans -- RACE!

will mercans, average bnlue collar types vote black?

a very open question.

"In regard to the bridge to nowhere as I understand it Palin was originally for it, but somewhere along the line changed her mind. It is likely she was for it at first simply based upon bringing more money into the state, and then once she dug into the details decided it was indeed too big of a pork project, hence changing her stance to opposing it. "

Nothing wrong with changing your mind as you learn more. I think this current idea of calling someone a flip floper as an insult is pretty stupid.

It is stupid not to change positions as knowledge and situations change.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

By mid century whites will be a miniority in the usa.

we are turning a corner that is bigger than class for americans -- RACE!

will mercans, average bnlue collar types vote black?

a very open question.

Time will tell, however I'd wager when it comes down to it, they will vote McCain. If McCain wins in a landslide I think this will be a possible explanation.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Time will tell, however I'd wager when it comes down to it, they will vote McCain. If McCain wins in a landslide I think this will be a possible explanation.

Landslide? Please follow the polls, Brit.

Follow the polls. Zogby, Rassmussen, etc.

Polls are meaningless - only a sample that is extrapolated.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Polls are meaningless - only a sample that is extrapolated.

rubbish.

polls are far from meaningless.

why otherwise would campaigns spend so much money on polling and employing pollsters.
they are very very important.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Polls are meaningless - only a sample that is extrapolated.

When polls are done correctly - note, "correctly" - polling is indeed, a science.

It's a science when done correctly.

"In four of the last five presidential elections, the eventual popular vote winner has trailed in the polls at some point, often by a substantial margin. Moreover, these changes are often predictable, as shifts usually move in the direction suggested by forecasts based on readings of "bread and peace": the state of the economy and U.S. standing abroad. "

Early Election Polls Are Often Misleading - Forbes.com

I wonder if my hypotheses about race shows up in the polling data?

Interesting times.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

I wonder if my hypotheses about race shows up in the polling data?

Interesting times.

This is the tricky issue, because many believe that when it comes to race, people are not honest.

If people are not honest, then the polling data is not accurate.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Polls are meaningless - only a sample that is extrapolated.

what a difference a few weeks makes....



29-07-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Gains for McCain in latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll Republican presidential candidate John McCain moved from being behind by 6 points among "likely" voters a month ago to a 4-point lead over Democrat Barack Obama among that group in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll.

23-05-2008, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Swing State Polls Have Bad News for Obama
His weaknesses are most apparent in Florida and Ohio, but in all three swing states, which include Pennsylvania, he has alarmingly low levels of support from Clinton supporters when it comes to a direct match-up with John McCain.

Swing State Polls Have Bad News for Obama - Poll Tracker

Originally Posted by raycarey

what a difference a few weeks makes....

do you save quotes that you know will come back to bite arse or do you use the search function.
I find the search function to be unsatisfactory.

Ray - you lost the plot mate, I posted those to counter the Obama polls. In reality they are an indication of nought.

"This is the tricky issue, because many believe that when it comes to race, people are not honest.

If people are not honest, then the polling data is not accurate."

Its called the Bradley effect, after the ex-mayor of LA, Thomas Bradely, A black man, always had a much bigger lead in polls than his actual margin of victory.

Is this happening now with Obama?

Who can say, but it is a possibility.

Race for Obama brings both pluses and minuses. But, he was able to get a high percentage of white voters in the primaries. Will this carry through to the general election? the 64 thousand dollar question.

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

Race for Obama brings both pluses and minuses. But, he was able to get a high percentage of white voters in the primaries. Will this carry through to the general election? the 64 thousand dollar question. Accidental Ajarn is online now Add to Accidental Ajarn's Reputation Report Post

yup..

"Ray - you lost the plot mate"

He had a plot? What was it? something about "vetting?"

Forget the war in Iraq, the economy, the values and personalities of the canidates, what the American Voters are most concerned over is the vetting practices of each canidate!!

Wasn't that his plot? or did he lose it from the get-go.

yes little ray-boy, I know another red.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

do you save quotes that you know will come back to bite arse or do you use the search function.

i've used the search function to expose texpat so many times that he's convinced i keep a journal.

it's also always fun to point out the hypocritical and contradictory statements made by jet gorgon.....by this point, i'm guessing jet wishes the search function was disabled.

anyway, i just searched under brit's name and the key word 'poll'.....i had a hunch, and i was right.

at this point, the question is will sarah 'gimmick' palin still be on the ticket on election day.

12% of gamblers on intrade.com say "NO".....let's see what the rest of the week will bring.
Intrade Prediction Markets

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by chinthee

It's simple. You and your butt buddy CMN are in the minority. Early 30s, earning very little, wastilng your most productive years in Thailand, such as raycarey, and you will have little (probably nothing after your divorces from your Thai wives) to show for this later. Perhaps your Thai wives will soon realize this and kick your asses out.

crass and pathetic.

you are a fukking disgrace chintee.

Pathetic's right, who does this old fool think he's kidding?? He brags about his wealth on an internet forum (which means he has none) to the extent he uses this imaginary figure to compare himself to other imaginary figures, and he's how many times divorced??

What an utter loser.

^

Wow I see I ain't ant's only "friend" here.

Mccain has sent a dozen lawyers to AK to properly vet ms palin.

Originally Posted by raycarey

but what's disconcerting about all this is the pathetically inept vetting process

yep, this guy shoots from the hip

Fuck, what do you want to bet 90% of these lefties didn't know the meaning of "vetting" or gave two shits about it before it appeared on the left wing blogs telling RC and his buddies what to think and rant about?

I will make a bold prediction, vetting will not become a deciding issue of this campaign. I know I know, really going out on a limb here.

Odd that the dem moonbats are going mental over Palin choice, actually its pretty much confirms McCain made the right choice.