Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

Originally Posted by raycarey

"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another. "You shut up!" the second woman shouted back.

Must be long standing TD members.

i set 'em up, so you can knock 'em down.

Originally Posted by Milkman

And hopefully Hillary's chances are not only finished in this election, but for forever.

who knows what she's going to do after tuesday...i could imagine any number of possibilities: bow out (semi) gracefully, suspend her campaign, keep it alive and vow to take it to the convention floor, file a lawsuit or who knows what else.
if she doesn't get out by the end of the week, i'd think (make that hope) that the remaining super delegates would FINALLY move towards obama in a public manner.

can't understand why the bitch won't let go

Hillary begging members of Democrat for nomination although she's trailing Obama! Funny.

Obamas challenge, when his nomination is finally, inevitably announced, is to minimise the electoral damage caused by disgruntled Hillary supporters. My guess is he'll offer her some high profile role in his Administration- perhaps health care.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if she doesn't get out by the end of the week, i'd think (make that hope) that the remaining super delegates would FINALLY move towards obama in a public manner.

She won in Puerto Rico today but turn out was very low so her hope of being able to claim she has the most popular votes has taken a hit. It's the delegate votes that count anyway so popular vote can only be used to convince uncommitted super delegates to go with Clinton. As of now 2118 delegates are needed to win the nomination. Obama has 2070 and Clinton 1915. 207 super delegates are still uncommitted. Should the primaries in Montana and South Dakota go as polls suggest, Obama would only need 27 of the 207 uncommitted super delegates to win the nomination. Given the push by senior Dems to have uncommitted super delegates commit by 3 June, Obama will be able to claim the nomination this week.

Predict Hillary will concede by weeks end and do all she can to bring her supporters to Obama's camp.

Originally Posted by Texpat

They have the discipline of stray cats.

Dems have been plagued for years with their nutty primary rules. If there is a lesson to be taken from the current debacle, it is revamp the entire primary process. Agree, the Florida and Mich primaries should not have had any bearing on the nomination as per the original agreement from all the candidates. Hillary had no objections to this until she fell so far behind she had no hope of winning and suddenly began insisting the votes be counted.

Indeed Norton. I would have expected the Republican nominations to have been more rancorous this year- the opposite proved to be the case.

Originally Posted by sabang

I would have expected the Republican nominations to have been more rancorous this year- the opposite proved to be the case.

the 2008 model of mccain sold out the 2000 'maverick' mccain....and the other candidates had too many flaws. but yes, it was surprising how quickly he wrapped it up.

IMO the main question is whether mccain is doing remarkably well in a year when bush should be bringing him down even further, or is he doing poorly in a year when the dems have been beating each other up for months and months.

Originally Posted by Norton

If there is a lesson to be taken from the current debacle, it is revamp the entire primary process.

they should have regional primaries (4 or 5) that vote on rotating on a schedule.....for example, in 2012 the NE is first, in 2016 SW is first, etc...

it has been argued that the main reason the US adopted the shortsighted ethanol policy was for primary promises in iowa.

Hillary for veep? Nah, I think she'll run for NY governor.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I think she'll run for NY governor.

copying my posts again jet?

'i called it'
' i called it'
' i called it'.


btw, thanks for the green.
55555
better luck next time selecting the right color!

^Your welcome. Guess you keep a running check on your repo, eh, Ray? Did you call her for guv? Likely missed it amidst all your drivel. Good on you, mommy's boy.

for the time being, i'll let that post stand.

now then back on topic....

as obama has all but captured the nomination, was this the biggest upset in presidential primary history?

if not, what was?

Jason the Jew,(JtJ)

Please do understand that Obama will not protect Jews if elected. I suppose that is in your favour, no, even though you reject your Jewish heritage.

You mean Hillary or McCain would protect Jason, from your trolling?

Originally Posted by FayeQuarry

Jason the Jew,(JtJ)

Please do understand that Obama will not protect Jews if elected. I suppose that is in your favour, no, even though you reject your Jewish heritage.

Jason is a WASP

Expect him to clinch the nomination in the next hour or two.

Originally Posted by durianfan

Expect him to clinch the nomination in the next hour or two.

This seems to be the case. If msnbc is correct. If....note the word "planned."

BREAKING NEWS
By Alex Johnson
Reporter
MSNBC
June. 3, 2008

Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois claimed the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday night, NBC News projected based on its tally of convention delegates. By doing so, he shattered a barrier more than two centuries old to become the first black candidate ever nominated by a major political party for the nation’s highest office.

“Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States,” Obama planned to say in a victory celebration in St. Paul, Minn., at the site of the convention that will nominate his Republican opponent in the fall, Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

Link & entire: Obama claims Democratic nomination - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

I don't think she's a gambler. That's is to say she won't run for NY governor and then run against McCain's VP come 2012. She won't give up her powerful and prestigious Senate seat to make a risky run at the presidency from the NY governor position. She'll stay in Congress and work her way up the ladder of power within the Senate.