Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

^ He should be reading about American politics anyway.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ He should be reading about American politics anyway.

this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

but that's because you're not american, and you just don't understand.

So if you are an American you do understand?

no, jet's always posting about how non-americans (and those who don't live there) "just don't understand".

of course it's an absurd position, and i'm giving her the opportunity to realize this.

Originally Posted by raycarey

so you which is it.....you wouldn't read it, or you can't read it.

It's not at my local bookstore...

^ 555
But I works fer an Amerikan firm again and have done so for many years and even worked in NYC, my favourite town. Chitown said I am welcome to the USA group. How bout you, Ray? Get kicked outta the US for some maligning you pulled at a college? Is that why you are in Thailand? Don't seem to last long at any one job, do you?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

and even worked in NYC,

even NYC? gosh, golly, gee. they have building that touch the sky there, don't they?
was this when you 'retired'.
don't be late for work on tuesday.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Chitown said I am welcome to the USA.

wow, that's a pretty impressive reference. ......too bad the INS disagrees.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Get kicked outta the US for some maligning you pulled at a college?

i'll try to translate this to english, and assume that you'r asking if i got kicked out of america for bad mouthing the country. well jet, that's just not possible. you just don't understand because you're not american. eh, jet?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Don't seem to last long at any one job, do you?

you're quite the fantasist dearie.
too much free time methinks....alas, too late in the game for you to get a man though.

^ I regret I cannot recommend you as a teacher of any sorts, Raybones. Maybe your keyboard is just missing the Cap key, but doesn't look good on the CV for an "english" teacher now, does it?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Chitown said I am welcome to the USA group

brhahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ I regret I cannot recommend you as a teacher of any sorts, Raybones. Maybe your keyboard is just missing the Cap key, but doesn't look good on the CV for an "english" teacher now, does it?

On 26K Baht per month!

which is more of a significant mistake?

mccain confusing shiites and sunnis....frequently.

or obama calling the town of sunrise , sunshine....four times



heh.

^
To McCain, they're all 'towel-heads' anyhow. Besides, the focus is on BO and lamestream media's lack of accountability when it comes to his legions of gaffes...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

To McCain, they're all 'towel-heads' anyhow.

Should be rather popular with the 'merkins...

Learned from history and are gonna nuke the "Untermensch" instead of gassing?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the focus is on BO and lamestream media's lack of accountability

while this may very well be what you want to be true, it's simply not the case.

the title of the thread is, "us presidential campaign 2008"

No different from Bush mistakenly referring to Australia as Austria a few months ago that had the critics howling.

BO does it and it's an honest mistake? Bullshit.

I won't criticize either, but I will call a few posters here hypocrites -- Stroller and Corporal Carey.

'We are all Hypocrites'.

Noam Chomsky

So far, I've found the politicking of McCain and Obama to be above board. Hillary dragged things down, in a desperate bid to revive her moribund campaign, and of course the Republican Right has been predictable in it's mudslinging- but who really listens to them except the Republican Right?

Now that we can basically write off Hillary (much to the chagrin of the GOP it would seem), is the electioneering going to take a turn for the worse, reminiscent of the Rove school of bare knuckles and dirty tricks? This article suggests so-

McCain/Obama slanging tipped to be nasty

Slanging matches between potential White House foes John McCain and Barack Obama, more typical of an election's frenzied last days than its opening shots, could set the tone for the slog to November.

Despite both pledging to elevate the tone of US politics, the senators are trading pithy personal jibes, as suspense ebbs from Obama's marathon Democratic race with Hillary Clinton and eyes turn towards a general election.

Each man wants to negatively define the other in voters' minds in an early test of mettle before the long run-up to November's presidential vote.

Republican McCain is painting Obama as naive, weak and dangerous, arguing he is an opportunist whose poetic rhetoric masks inexperience and no record to back up his promise to drain US politics of partisan bile.

Obama's offensive so far is encapsulated by one of his new attack lines: "John McCain has decided to run for George Bush's third term."

The strategy is to shackle the Arizona senator to the unpopular president and to suggest his policies on everything from international relations to economics are simply a retread of a failed approach.

Obama also seems intent on proving that he is no soft touch after Democrats despaired over previous nominees, like 2004 pick John Kerry, who many saw as cowed by Republican attacks.

While there is mutual respect between Washington veterans Clinton and McCain, it is equally clear there is already festering antipathy between McCain and freshman senator Obama.

The 46-year-old Illinois MP in fact seems to get right under the 71-year-old Republican's skin.

"For a young man with very little experience, he has done very well," McCain sarcastically told supporters in Florida last week.

The Arizona senator is already attacking Obama and his ideas, including his offer to talk to the leaders of US foes, as a dangerous risk in a world thick with threats and uncertainty.

In one recent swipe, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds responded to Obama's idea for an easing of restrictions on contacts between Americans and Cubans as "weak" and "reckless" and reeking of "political expediency."

Stressing Obama's inexperience is also a veiled way for McCain to defuse the age question. If the Arizona MP wins the election, he will become, at 72, the oldest president ever inaugurated for a first term.

McCain is also taking pot shots at Obama's character, and ridiculing his brand of "new" politics.

He hammered Obama this week after the Illinois senator criticised his stand on a veterans benefits bill.

"It is typical, but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of," McCain said.

He sharpened his attack further by highlighting his own Vietnam war heroism, and Obama's lack of military service.

"I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did," McCain said.

Obama's strikes have been less personal but still mocking, with subtle digs about his likely opponent's age.

He jokes that McCain's signature bus the "Straight Talk Express" has taken a diversion - and has provoked McCain by painting him as a neophyte on economics, as many Americans feel the financial pinch.

But his calculated decision to launch a full-bore attack on McCain from the Senate floor, where ungentlemanly conduct is frowned upon, appeared to be a deliberate attempt to tweak his foe's reputed temper.

"I respect Senator John McCain's service to our country ... but I can't understand why he would line up behind the president in opposition to this ... bill," Obama said.

"I can't believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans."
Obama has also sought to tie McCain to Bush in foreign policy, frequently saying his fellow senator would be happy to wage a 100-year war in Iraq.

The attack is no less effective for being a selective use of McCain's words at best. When he made the infamous remark, McCain seemed to be talking about a long-term peacekeeping mission not a hot war.

Obama, while careful to show respect to McCain, has also subtly referred to his age, talking about how admiring he is of the Arizona's senator's "half-century" of service to the United States.

McCain/Obama slanging tipped to be nasty - Breaking News - World - Breaking News

Originally Posted by Texpat

I won't criticize either, but I will call a few posters here hypocrites -- Stroller...

For what? Have I commented on the Austria/Australia thing, or Obama's blunders?

On second thought, don't bother...

Originally Posted by sabang

The 46-year-old Illinois MP in fact seems to get right under the 71-year-old Republican's skin.

Should make for some entertaining live debates.

^
it makes mccain seem cantankerous, and well...old. i think someone else may have posted this already, but he reminds of the old guy who told the kids in neighborhood not to play football in front of his house.

anway, the obama campaign has plotted a new election map strategy. they've thrown out the old paradigms concerning 'red states and blue states' and are targeting their message at individual voters.

The underlying goal of Obama’s trip this week through New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado is to lay claim to a region that Obama views as one of his best opportunities to pick off states in November.

“We want to send a message now that we are going to go after them and I expect to win them,” Obama told reporters after laying a wreath at a veterans’ memorial.

President Bush picked up 19 electoral votes across these three states – the margin by which Democrat John Kerry fell short in the Electoral College in 2004. He edged out Kerry by five percentage points in Colorado, two points in Nevada and less than one point in New Mexico.

Obama looks westward in electoral map play - Carrie Budoff Brown - Politico.com

it's early days, but from my perspective this seems like a good strategy.

Obviously quite a tortured character, he has quite a cross to bear with his Nazi and Jewish genes sending conflicting messages to his confused ego.

Oh well, not much different from the other losers who choose social "sciences" as a "career" I suppose.

I bet Beth only married him because the trust-funds from his parents promise a comfortable life-style without making any effort.

And all the fuss he makes about his dog, the quarantine taking it to more than 20 countries must have cost him a fortune. If he was a true socialist, he would have donated the money to Greenpeace or some other anarcho-environmentalist organisation.
Quite an unbalanced character he is.

One wonders if he manges to shave without assistance in the mornings.

Originally Posted by stroller

One wonders if he manges to shave without assistance in the mornings.

From looking at his pic, a wee kitten could lick the peach fuzz off!

the DNC rules committee met this weekend to determine how the delegates in MI and FL would be divided.
as the committee was explaining its decision, supporters of the clinton and obama campaigns had a disagreement....

"Shut up!" one woman shouted at another.

"You shut up!" the second woman shouted back.

Party seats Fla., Mich. delegations - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com